- Update : See also Southern Cross Soldiers’ first casualty, December 12, 2008, on the police shooting of Tyler Cassidy, 15-year-old Southern Cross Soldier.
Crazy kids and their intarwebs!
The Southern Cross Soldiers (SCS) finally make it into the papers.
(See below.)
They’re just like real soldiers (only not quite as well paid).
“Friends, today was an historic day, the day Australians stood up against state-imposed multiculturalism,” Darrin Hodges wrote on the night of the Cronulla riots. Accompanying his posting is a series of photographs he took at Cronulla that day, including one of a T-shirt emblazoned with the words “wog free zone” and another of a sign offering free sausages to the crowd, with “no tabouli”. Darrin also speaks of footage he filmed on the day which [FightDemBack!] believes was used in a video released over the weekend that glorifies a mob of rioters bashing various non-whites at Cronulla.
In his article (Victorian police vow crackdown to stop ‘another Cronulla’) Liam makes reference to a Cronulla vid (Videos on [SCS] websites glorify the Cronulla riots to a neo-Nazi soundtrack promising “race war”), which is presumably a reference to the vid Australian Protectionist Party (APP) members Darrin Hodges and Martin Fletcher helped to produce and distribute on Stormfront in the riot’s immediate aftermath. Hodges & Co. maintain that the ‘riot’ was in fact a ‘White Civil Uprising’, an opening shot fired in a civil war in which their side seeks to return Australia to its natural status as a 100% White outpost in Asia. While Hodges & Co. are based in Sydney, at the same time, in Melbourne, another APP member, Luke Connors, in his then capacity as spokesperson for the now-defunct ‘Patriotik Yoof League’:
…predicted further outbreaks.
“‘When you have areas which are majority Muslim, because they don’t tend to adapt that well, or majority African or Middle Eastern extraction, and right next door you have an area which is 90 per cent Anglo-Saxon, or Anglo-Celtic, there is going to be friction,” he said.
“West Heidelberg is a big one because you have a very large black working-class community next to a white middle-working-class community. That would be my best guess actually if it was going to start up in Melbourne.
“Also, out past Springvale, along the train line, there is that same sort of segregation going on, in working-class areas where they are competing for the same jobs and there is a high unemployment rate.”
~ Ewin Hannan and Richard Baker, Nationalists boast of their role on the beach, The Age, December 13, 2005
In the meantime, the silly boys manly Aryan worriers of the APP are currently trying to arrange for BNP Fuhrer Nick Griffin to pop over for a cup of tea and a chat about strategies for making Australia a wog-free zone averting the demographic genocide that is threatening his Fatherland and the Mother Country (“caused by the large-scale immigration of people from the Third World”). As things stand, however, and especially given what appears to be widespread opposition on the part of VIPs, it appears that Gub’mint authorities are unlikely to approve Nick’s visa application.
Above: one of numerous racist images available on APP member Martin Fletcher’s webshite, ‘Downunder News Links’. The imgs were originally produced by the US-based neo-Nazi organisation ‘White Aryan Resistance’.
Earlier this year, spokesperson for the NSW APP, Darrin Hodges, described Third World immigrants as sub-human: “Australia was a beautiful place once, before it was flooded with third-world sewerage from African [sic] and Asia.” Adds, a Major-General in the Southern Cross Soldier Army, echoes this sentiment: “All these people that are coming over to our country that aren’t Aussies are trying to take it over,” Adds said.
Anyway, here’s an article about angry white teens.
Victorian police vow crackdown to stop ‘another Cronulla’
Sunday Herald Sun
Liam Houlihan
November 23, 2008POLICE will use roadblocks, mounted coast patrols and fines for swearing to protect Melbourne beaches from a Cronulla-style anti-immigrant gang.
The crackdown follows boasts by the 200-strong Melbourne chapter of the Southern Cross Soldiers, who admit having criminals and neo-Nazis in their ranks, that they will converge on bayside beaches this summer.
Police in bayside suburbs will implement Operation Beachsafe, which shares the name given to NSW police’s post-Cronulla riots crackdown.
Inspector Neil Patterson, of Moorabbin police, said: “There’s one group in particular that has indicated they intend to hold parties on beach locations.
“The message is if you’re coming to the beach areas . . . to drink or cause problems, we’re going to be there ready to target you.”
Melbourne SCS co-leader Adds said members included criminals and self-described neo-Nazi skinheads, and some had relatives in the Hell’s Angels.
“All these people that are coming over to our country that aren’t Aussies are trying to take it over,” Adds said.
“We’re just trying to put the word out that we don’t like it.”
The radical police plan to protect beaches from December to March includes:
ROADBLOCKS and car checks to stop troublemakers heading to the beach.
A ZERO-TOLERANCE blitz, including on-the-spot $130 fines for swearing on the beach, to stop trouble before it starts.
MOUNTED horse patrols in troublespots and undercover beach officers.
PHONING parents of drunk and violent youths to pick up their children from police stations.
POSSIBLE referral to the Department of Human Services if parents of young offenders cannot be contacted.
Masked soldiers in the posse call themselves “SCS defenders” and “SCS enforcers” and pose in front of patriotic paraphernalia wearing matching hoodies and wielding weapons including a machete, jemmy and spanner.
Videos on their websites glorify the Cronulla riots to a neo-Nazi soundtrack promising “race war”.
Insp Patterson said the police blitz aimed to keep beaches safe for families.
“If we can stop anti-social behaviour in its starting forms, then it won’t increase into forms of violence,” he said.
Skot… I think you may need to have a Cornetto and harden the fuck up.
SKOT:
You may find your ideas about Empire Loyalism exciting, but I do not. I find them, quite frankly, bizarre. A more appropriate forum for discussion regarding How The British Can Get Their Empire Back is the Australian League of Rights, not a blog by an Australian anarchist.
Seems there are in fact very stringent limits to “free” speech amongst the self appointed liberal “elite”?
Yes, there are ‘limits’. In Australia, these are given by law, by custom, and by access. Other than the fact that I’m an not appointed by anyone to anything, a liberal, or a member of an elite, your description of myself as being part of a self-appointed liberal elite is entirely accurate.
Anything actually intelligently written, that doesn’t fit the current status quo, is very quickly swept under the rug.
Huh? I allow all sorts of comments to be published, including those made by self-described fascists, and containing all sorts of bizarre and often offensive claims. Prattling on about the virtues of empire — any empire — is not a sign of intelligence, but childish belief in historical myth. If you truly wish to Let the World Know Why Empire is Ace and Loyalism is Grouse, rock the status quo by publishing your views online. Like, say, in a blog.
Always “funny” that those who claim “nothing matters”, and that there is “no right and no wrong”…come up with some fabricated notions of what is “wrong”.
I’ll have the mushroom risotto. Thanks.
Sorry SKOT, what were you saying?
It would be really good if you could in fact post my most recent comments, for the sake of decent discussion, and so “uni twat”’s vulgar comments aren’t left to colour the interpretation, or misinterpretation, of mine.
No, it would be silly. The post is about the SCS, Australian nationalism, and race. Readers are free to interpret what they read as they wish, and according to their own prerogatives.
Malcolm X said, “they take one little thing you say, blow it all out of proportion, ignore all the rest…to make you look like what you, in fact, are not…”
Malcolm X said many interesting things. This is one of the many aspects of his life which distinguishes it from your contribution to this discussion.
Australia IS Australia…there were people who started and built Australia, that is the truth.
What are you? Fucking channeling Ayn Rand? ‘Australia’ is many things to many people. What it means to the teenage boys who find SCS attractive is what is most germane.
The legacy to be inherited by those people’s, who went through many troubled times, descendents, cannot be allowed to be so easily spoilt.
What? By illiterate teenagers?
The question must be asked…WHY do so many people now wish to come to Australia?…WHAT is the Australia that they actually intend to come to?
Yeah d00d. People study it and shit. Try reading a book. From White Australia to Woomera by James Jupp (Cambridge University Press, 2002) for a start.
And the realisation arrived at…that those people coming here will actually destroy that Australia…and that’s already under way…but it is not yet too late to stem the tide.
Alternatively, make like an Aussie, and grab a fucking surfboard.
Tiocfaidh ár Lá,
ANGLO-CELTIC @NDY.
Dr. Cam…Dr ?
Have a Cornetto?
Yes, I like Cornettos…
And harden, the f**k, up?
I’m “hard” enough…I keep fit, I work out, I work hard…but why should I harden up?
I don’t want to go along with this ever more cynical, sarcastic, harsh “society”.
I’ve got a thin skin, thankfully…and I’ll soften up, thank you very much.
The question could then be asked…why don’t those who come here, and who then may encounter some annoyance, and even resist[a]nce, to their conceit, harden up?
Why don’t people “harden up” in their own countries, before running off to Australia?
I’m hard, and I’m soft…kind of the way a man ought to be.
Now, @ndy.
Did I say that Empire loyalism was exciting?
No.
I did explain some of the complexities, and contradictions, that brought about the British Empire…and that via fair means and foul, right and wrong, in the great wash up, the peoples of Britain DID carve out an Empire.
And Australia was, and should still be, [a] shining example of such.
An Australian anarchist?
Anarchists really didn’t invent, or develop the internet, you know?
Though I am quite the fan of the Sufi-‘anarchist’ Hakim Bey.
Originally, anarchism meant a “society without leaders”, and most original societies were along that line, a society of equals, in which people knew their responsibility, real anarchy actually requires real discipline! However, for too long now, “anarchism” has meant a lot of spitting, throwing stuff around, troublemaking…all until the “anarchists” grow up, sober up, and get a job at daddy’s firm.
And, so “funny”, so ironic, that an “anarchist”, so spiteful towards the British Empire, then draws upon laws, a legal system that are BASED UPON British Law!
As the legal systems of most former colonies are!
I never said the Empire was ‘ace’…but outright denial of it, as you so biasedly espouse, is horrendous.
Funny enough, I don’t mind Ayn Rand!
Neal Peart was labelled a “fascist” for being inspired by her.
And now you’ve got me thinking about the Ayn Rand childcare centre in an episode of The Simpsons!
I cannot stress this enough…Australia IS Australia…or, to be more precise, Australia WAS Australia…there was a real model, that only afterward could become “many things to many people”…and all too often the WRONG thing to too many people!
No.
Australia is meant to be inherited by the descendents of those who made it…if any are illiterate, then let’s get them back into literacy class!
I’m not sure what to make of your glib statement there…I do love the beach, I love swimming, and bodysurfing, and I am a budding surfer.
Please, don’t try and smugly fob off what you know I am saying.
Your last line, your “tag line”, is woefully misdirected, and terribly offensive.
Now, excepting if you actually are a child of an English-Irish/Welsh/Cornish or Scottish marriage…there is NO SUCH THING as “Anglo-Celtic”.
Asides from us both being derived from the Indo-European peoples [no apostrophe]…there is a major difference between us Celts, and the Germanic Anglo-Saxons!
SKOT
And why stop mid-way with that sarcastic risotto bit?
How are Malcolm X’s words that I quoted, now ‘distinguished’ from my contribution to this discussion?
And what would you know about Malcolm X, or his life, anyway?
Funny enough, I don’t mind Ayn Rand.
Neal Peart was labelled a “fascist” for being inspired by her.
Australia IS Auatralia…or, more precisely, Australia WAS Australia…before it became “many things to many people”…and usually the wrong thing!
I do love the beach, and I’m a bidding surfer.
There is NO SUCH thing as “Anglo-Celtic”!
Excepting if your parents are of either group.
Though we are both derived from the Indo-European peoples…there is a major difference between us Celts, and the Germanic Anglo-Saxons!
SKOT
“I’m hard, and I’m soft…kind of the way a man ought to be”
So gay.
FFS…
“I did explain some of the complexities, and contradictions, that brought about the British Empire…and that via fair means and foul, right and wrong, in the great wash up, the peoples of Britain DID carve out an Empire. And Australia was, and should still be, [a] shining example of such.”
No, you didn’t. You presented a fairly tale: history reduced to a truncated series of one-liners. Yeah, there was a British Empire. Yeah, Australia was established as a penal colony.
Three cheers and a loud huzzah.
Australia was shat out.
According to Rear Admiral Jules Sébastien César Dumont d’Urville I live in Oceania. Partly as a result of imperialist rivalry in Europe in the late eighteenth century, I live in ‘Australia’, the world’s smallest, and driest, continent, southeast of Asia between the Pacific and Indian oceans.
As Robert Hughes noted (The Fatal Shore, p.66):
p.160:
p.1:
As some body called Karl once wrote:
EUREKA!
Why do you grovel and lick their boots?
To put it another way: kiss my Anglo-Celtic arse.
END OF STORY
PS.
The Sick Bed of Cúchulaínn
(Shane MacGowan)
McCormack and Richard Tauber are singing by the bed
There’s a glass of punch below your feet and an angel at your head
There’s devils on each side of you with bottles in their hands
You need one more drop of poison and you’ll dream of foreign lands
When you pissed yourself in Frankfurt and got syph down in Cologne
And you heard the rattling death trains as you lay there all alone
Frank Ryan bought you whiskey in a brothel in Madrid
And you decked some fucking blackshirt who was cursing all the Yids
At the sick bed of Cúchulaínn we’ll kneel and say a prayer
And the ghosts are rattling at the door and the devil’s in the chair
And in the Euston Tavern you screamed it was your shout
But they wouldn’t give you service so you kicked the windows out
They took you out into the street and kicked you in the brains
So you walked back in through a bolted door and did it all again
At the sick bed of Cúchulaínn we’ll kneel and say a prayer
And the ghosts are rattling at the door and the devil’s in the chair
You remember that foul evening when you heard the banshees howl
There was lousy drunken bastards singing “Billy In The Bowl”
They took you up to midnight mass and left you in the lurch
So you dropped a button in the plate and spewed up in the church
Now you’ll sing a song of liberty for blacks and paks and jocks
And they’ll take you from this dump you’re in and stick you in a box
Then they’ll take you to Cloughprior and shove you in the ground
But you’ll stick your head back out and shout “We’ll have another round”
At the graveside of Cúchulaínn we’ll kneel around and pray
And God is in His heaven, and Billy’s down by the bay
Yeah, and what are the chances of that happening?
But Andy quoted (about Eureka):
It’s not that weird imho. From memory (of reading this stuff in high school), some of the participation in the rebellion was fueled by anti-Chinese sentiment, a sentiment that remained in the Union movement until, well, it’s still going in part. Victoria passed the Chinese Immigration Regulation Act not long after. One of the symbols of the Eureka rebellion (the flag) was appropriated and bastardised into the “anti-Chinese” flag used in NSW on the gold fields just a few years later. It kind of looks like the Confederate flag crossed with the Eureka flag and a circus poster.
My point being, SKOT, that the sad attempts at drawing a singular, linear narrative of nation building to makes you look like a moron. Why can’t you just barrack for a footy team like normal people?
Creepy.
SKOT is now combining the two worst abuses on the Internet: caps and unnecessary quotation marks. This shit will not stand.
Well to both anarchists and nationalists here, on immigration, some important things to consider:
Much like how they predicted the outcome of fascism and nazism before it actually happened, they also have predicted an end to the ‘spend and consume’ ideology that has grown and grown in the West since the 1980s. These men are of the Austrian School of Economics. They advocate such crazy things as working and producing and saving rather than borrowing and spending and outsourcing. And the problem has been that a decadent Western elite has sold out the world to their pursuit of both greed and power. And Australia has been sold out to their worldwide scheme too.
Now here’s the good part, pro-business right wing nationalists in particular, but also left-wingers who think we do immigration out of a desire to show the world we can be one:
A significant amount of the immigration into this country has always been to serve the corporatists, who are aligned with government and both scratch each other’s backs at our expense. An example was in the media not so long ago, McDonald’s up in a Queensland town close to mines was saying no one wanted to work at McDonald’s, they said it’s a major issue because people are getting taken by the miners. So in come Phillipino immigrants assisted by the government to get those jobs filled! But what really happened? McDonald’s has set wages and they will not raise them to make those jobs more attractive in such a competitive jobs environment, this cuts into profits and/or their viability to continue operating there. Why should McDonald’s close up in this town because they can’t make a good profit from paying higher wages than elsewhere to workers? That hurts McDonald’s, they might get other wage claims! Macca’s is a multi-national corporation and it’s easy to lean on government to keep things the way they want them. So in come people who will work for the wages they set and won’t whinge and complain.
So when you hear the media tell us immigration helps grow the economy, that slogan in particular, then think about the alliance between business and government.
Companies want to continue undermining the existing labouring population’s rights and wages, for instance BHP and Rio Tinto don’t want to use their massive profits to fund education and skills-training of Aussies when they get shortages from new growth, that’s for taxpayers, we educate BHP’s best and brightest they don’t, and where we don’t, and there always seems to be a lot of ‘don’ts’ for those companies, well they get it elsewhere and at a much cheaper price, because they tell government to bend the law to help them.
Do you know where those big profits, instead, go? Corporate executives who dine around the world *for the business*, who holiday, who do drugs, who live it up with high-class hookers, who get drunk off their perceived importance, intelligence, and power. I recall the Coles CEO in 1997, who had a productive workforce that got out the work on time, good on them! Well the CEO just skimmed profits off the top and renovated his mansion. He got caught, but I ask, how many don’t?
So the shit-fighting between nationalists and anarchists continues, but really, you by principle should be looking at the same people and saying, hey….wait a minute?
PS None of you guys have a private plane where you can fly the Prime Minister out to your mines in Western Australia, pour him a glass of champagne, and tell him what you want…and then get it.
PPS Now you know why I sympathise with both anarchists and nationalists, but it’s because of a dislike for our government and the elites beyond our shores who they align with, not people like us regular folks including those immigrants who don’t see these games either, we’re all pawns baby!
PPPS Both anarchism and nationalism is on the rise around the world, because the fatcats have destroyed the current system with their greed and power-games. The Austrian School of Economics is, once again, getting it right.
PPPPS Dr. Cam is pretty funny, there is, typically, nothing to fear from people who have a sense of humour, think about that nationalists. See British mockery of Nazis in WWII, then see Nazis inability to understand, or have, a sense of humour at all.
The Austrian School of Economics: a bad joke. They advocate such crazy things as laissez-faire capitalism, in the most histrionic terms, and with predictably disastrous outcomes for all but the very rich.
Immigration to Australia has always been governed by Government policy; first British, then Australian, and had as its central concern the provision of labour. In other words, to suit the needs of capital. As the needs of capital changes, so too does Government policy.
On McDonald’s:
Filipino workers (and workers generally) have served in this capacity for many years: approximately 10 or 11 million are ‘Overseas Filipino Workers’, in permanent but largely temporary capacities, in countries all over the world.
This is not news.
You appear to assume that I’m an economic, historical, philosophical and political illiterate.
I am not.
If you think that I’m not aware of basic features of the world economy such as capitalist exploitation, the global division of labour, or inequalities of wealth, you’re wrong.
If anarchists are for anarchy, then Murray Rothbard is an important figure in its history at the least. There are certainly some in the Austrian School who should be over at the Chicago School with Milton Friedman. I mean Rothbard took the school’s teachings and led them to an Individualist Anarchist conclusion. This is not good?
capitalist exploitation
The correct term is corporatist exploitation, I mean America and Australia and other such economies are very much corporatist to the core, and corporatism is defined as the merging of big business and big government to exploit industries and workers for the profit and power of the few. Other small businesses form around this special clique but it remains a shell game and workers have little rights because of it.
A very good example was in the USA with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, they were set up to help the mortgage industry and people get cheap home loans, private players couldn’t compete with their taxpayer backing or their ability to offer low interest rate home loans or their ability to lobby politicians and get what they want, so what happened? The government essentially took over the mortgage market in the USA and the investment banks and Wall Street and foreign banks and investors just jumped on their backs, government and the corporatists running them concealed all the risks while they partied with the riches, and then… well now we see the outcome. We all pay for their crimes.
Just wondering what is Australian to the SCS? Do you have to be of white appearance? The Irish/English skin? Is that Australian?
What is Australian to me? The voice, and/or actions! Plain and simple.
I know people of Asian appearance, Italian, Greek, African (black and white) that talk with Australian accent and live the Australian way – that is getting on with things, giving everyone a go, have a go yourself, LAUGH, JOKE and enjoy bbqs sun bikinis sport… well it used to be!
I hate the Muslims or any outsiders who come here and stick there fuckin’ nose in the air and DON’T live the Australian way and keep to themselves – that I hate. That is frustrating when they use this land yet they look down on us and our lifestyle. I say to them F**K OFF!
BUT at the same time I LOVE outsiders who come here take on the Australian way, bring their children up to be Australian. Our economy, our way of life depends on this. Without Asians, Greeks, Italians etc we would be dead – financially in ruin.
My problem with the SCS is they have what it is to be Australian wrong! I understand there were Australians singled out when they were younger by Lebs or whatever because the outsiders tend to stick together more… However those groups do not speak for that nation they are IDIOTS! Probably fearful of being in a new country so took action. It’s all fear – just wish everyone could live in peace. Hard I know. Anyway are the SCS going to bash people on their appearance? Because if so THEY will half the time be bashing Australians that is THEIR OWN!!!
Also brings me to another point – will you bash white French, Irish or English people that come here, don’t live the Australian way and take jobs etc.?
All in all what is Australian in your eyes?
I don’t know how you manage to get so many fuckheads commenting on your blog @ndy, you’d think their time would be better spent drinking beer and wanking over the Australian flag.
TL;DR
I’m going to start the lebanese samoan tongan maori fijian aboriginal black and brown chapter of the Southern Cross Soldiers in brisbane AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE OI OI OI!
good luck mate because no one would join it
hey kadik-kadet ur obviously ur not any were near an aussie if ur thinking about wanking ova our flag that is dam right rude an for a matter of fack we dont call our self aussies cuz we drink beer were thongs an shorts an have bbqs its because we try an get people that graff an do drugs an just people that go thru a lot off rough times to change there type of m8s an change there bad habits because if u join the scs u r not aloud to graff take drugs or do all thoz criminal stuff so instead off trying to pik out all the bad things about us y dont uz find the good things
Fukin aussie till I die
Define the aussies us boyz represent:
1. Have a good time with mates who look after them and would die for them.
2. Don’t care about our political matters, but about who we are inside.
3. Don’t let other cultures change who we are, and hurt when we see other aussies changed by them.
This is what other cultures do to us (not generalising, setting examples):
1. Work heaps of hours for shit wages, take our employment and [w]reck our jobs.
2. Cause fights in our country, violence being “their way of life”.
3. Try to change us to their own ways, cheap and fukin nasty.
So fukin become an aussie or we kick ur head in.
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Well, if you find it humorous that people are targeted by gangs…
r u talking to me matt
I wonder if your penis is as big as your ego matt?
Australia has no culture apart from the Koori mob’s history; Australia is a product of Amerikkkanisation meets British Colonial rule. Last I checked, all non-indigenous Australians are immigrants of British penal colonies so essentially (if your family came here as ex convicts) or sometime later whether as an Irish/European refugees you yourself aren’t Australian. In fact the very concept of the southern cross which you appropriated no doubt from the dickheads of the Patriotic Youth League is a symbol of the working class rising above the money hungry capitalists (29 different nationalities swore an oath on this flag) and it was deliberately designed without the Union Jack as a mark of rebellion against British tyranny. That is hardly a nationalist symbol, in fact it’s embracing internationalism.
In regards to these claims Matt:
“This is what other cultures do to us (not generalising, setting examples):
1. Work heaps of hours for shit wages, take our employment and [w]reck our jobs.”
-Load of shit, you trust fund babies have probably never worked a day in your life. If you knew anything about working, you’d realise culture has nothing to do with job availability; you’d find that bosses that hand out employment to international students do so because foreign labour is cheaper, this isn’t the fault of the labourer but the fault of the boss because they will find any means to get their hands on the most profit. Based on your logic you could easily say we should deport all children because they work for slave wages and leave the rest of us [let’s assume were all adults] without jobs. This is the fault of the bosses, not the workers.
2. Cause fights in our country, violence being “their way of life”.
-Violence is a factor irrespective of nationality, in fact even if it were; it would be whites that engage in the most violence. Look how many wars have been initiated by whites? Or the enslavement of people of colour by whites? You trying to tell me NWA is more violent than the KKK?
3. Try to change us to their own ways, cheap and fukin nasty.
-Says the group that’s influenced by African-American Gangster culture? Do you purchase everything “Made in Australia,” I highly doubt it. Seeing as you’re all predominantly White males I think this whole patriotic/nationalist trend you’re going through is some kind of excuse to start a white all male gang.
Just give it up already and go back to your bourgeois lifestyle of shit clothes and bad haircuts.
-Kadet
hahahaha u make me laugh i told u once an il tell u twice we r not a all wite group an yes my family came from whales but that waz along time ago an im an aussie i was born here raisd here an hopfuly il die here so there 4 i am an aussie so u can stik that rite up ur ass wel u brobly dnt have 2 cuz i think u have allready got ur bf dik up there an i dnt no about working do i i starded working wen i waz 12 an still am az a panel beater so like i said b4 dnt say shit that u no nothink about an if u realy think were so bad afta all the stuff we do 4 people that go thru shit life styles wat do u do 4 this country an people u dnt no brobly jak shit so shut ur mouth b4 we shut it 4 u
i beg to differ i already have 23 people with me since writing i was gonna start my own version of scs… 15 of them are hardline soldiers 6 out of those 15 are lebanese people sick of your shit 9 are aborigines indigenous to this country and the rest are polynesians who can kick all your asses we call ourselves southern cross soldiers with the blessing of the aboriginal elders who are the real australians whose ancestors didn’t commit crimes to come here… soooo if you wanna represent australia get your facts right
im pretty shure we have a lot mor members than 23 an i dnt think that 23 of urz wud b able 2 take on az menny az we had at cronulla wud they i dnt think so so dnt start a war u cant finish ok hahahahaha so suk a dik an ur crew cum afar me with all u got ay
oh an i didnt camit a crime to cum here did i an nether did any of my family thoz abos wudnt have been here if it wasnt 4 uz because the japs wud have taken over an then the new zealands came an helpt us defend with us so i think u shud get ur facks rite u wanka my grand pop my unkles an a lot of my family was in the war an i still have family in the navy an army so u can shuv that rite up ur fuking lose ass
“thoz abos wudnt have been here if it wasnt 4 uz because the japs wud have taken over an then the new zealands came an helpt us defend with us so i think u shud get ur facks rite u wanka”
It all makes so much sense now.
hahahaha u make me laugh i told u once an il tell u twice we r not a all wite group an yes my family came from whales but that waz along time ago!
[SA scs member has left the building.]
m8 the only building il b leaving is the 1 at ur funrel
Sho’ nuff.
Seriously tho’.
Suck on this.
hahahaha but wat the fuk dos that have to do with us so think again wanker
did i say you commited crimes fuckin imbred wanka…and the japs wouldnt have attacked if it was just abos here they would have gotten along just fine and australia would be far more advanced than how you fuckers have envisioned for this country…and what do you mean they wouldnt have been here the abos and maoris were on the frontline while your glory hunting faggots stood behind them like cowards who gives a shit about your uncle and pops…my brothers a high ranking SAS officer and he said the oz navy are a bunch of gay wankers who would piss their pants at the sight of action…as for 23 which is now 27 we dont need hundreds of people behind us to feel powerful just a nice 1 out will do us…it just shows how cowardly you are buddy you aint shit by yourself slap yourself
kthanxbye.
(serious this time.)
Wow, I haven’t been on slackbastard for a week and still my arguments haven’t been rebutted. Good work SCS, your credibility has hit an all time low.
Adios loserinos
-Kadet
[Blah blah blah…
For some reason I’m reminded of this song…]
[Blah blah blah. Grow up SA scs member.]
[Blah blah blah. Grow up SA scs member. And goodbye.]
because we try an get people that graff an do drugs an just people that go thru a lot off rough times to change there type of m8s an change there bad habits because if u join the scs u r not aloud to graff take drugs or do all thoz criminal stuff so instead off trying to pik out all the bad things about us y dont uz find the good things
Look mate, I believe in freedom of association and I think this is a good thing if you are actually saying don’t do drugs or break the laws of the land and study hard and get somewhere in life and I’m down with Aussie youngsters like that!
But here’s why I don’t believe you.
First, Grammar. Second, You sound like you’ve been doing drugs when you wrote that. Third, you sound like an immature fucking teenager text messaging the message. Fourth, I’m an Aussie Born Again Christian token right winger here whose father was in Vietnam and who’s Grandfather was in WWII, I’m Anglo-Celtic and I love my country, I’d sympathise but I am not convinced that SCS is more than just a teen angst movement. I saw plenty of ethnic conflict when I was in high school too, then people grew up and started caring about other things, about supporting themselves and their families, for instance, if you still care about this shit in 15 years, you’ll be smarter about it, methinks.
I personally only have a problem with immigrants (not native ethnics) who come into this great country, don’t learn the English language because they refuse to (ignorance, arrogance) and constantly criticise everything in Australian society. It gives me the absolute SH$#@!!! And trust me, there are many of such types around. And don’t get me wrong, I’m not one of these so called ‘gang’ members, but I am an Australian citizen who cares for the fellow Australians around me that make Australia what it is. Shouldn’t we all hold this view. And by the way, down with democracy, support dictatorship! Nothing ever gets done with democracy, constant arguing and bickering amongst politicians, we need things to actually happen!!!
P.S No I’m not a skinhead.
Black. White. Brown. Yellow. All humans regardless of skin color are equally good and evil.
I thought the aussie spirit was about giving people a ‘Fair Go’.
All this hate and violence seems un-australian. I thought we are supposed to be the laid back country.
There is NO SUCH thing as “Anglo-Celtic”!
Excepting if your parents are of either group.
Yeah, and what are the chances of that happening?
Well there is no such thing as Anglo-Celtic. The Angles and Celts are both Caucasian, northern European peoples. To be either an Angle, Saxon, Jute or so called Celt is a matter of culture and language.
The culture of the Angles, Saxons and Jutes on one hand and the Celts on the other are of a completely different nature.
Australian culture is Anglo (not Anglo Celtic) as its the English flag in the corner of the Aussie flag not the flags of Breizh or Éireann, the head of state here is British, the language spoken is a form of English (‘strain).
If you speak one of the Celtic languages along with English then you may claim to be Anglo-Celtic.
It’s simple –
“With the appearance of capitalism, the elimination of feudal division and the formation of national markets, nationalities developed into nations, and the languages of nationalities into national languages. History shows that national languages are not class, but common languages, common to all the members of each nation and constituting the single language of that nation.”
The whole story is here –
http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1950/jun/20.htm
Paul Justo, forget race, it is a strawman, what this is about is immigration, pro-immigrationists and anti-immigrationists. Where anti-immigrationists go wrong is when they argue race in place of the definition of immigrant. Australia as we know it today was founded by the British, under British Law, and all those who came here from the British Isles found themselves here because they were subjected to those laws.
So, would you argue that Scots and Irish, sent here as convicts, under British Law, were not part of Britain? Of course they were a part of it! They were tried under its laws! That means they did not come to Australia as immigrants, an immigrant is a person who lawfully goes to another country and/or another monarchy, Australia was not another country or monarchy, it was under Crown rule, just as those who were convicted by its laws were. It was founded as another country in 1901 but still part of Britain and its laws.
The Scots and Irish did not have to apply for permanent residence.
Also, as an aside, when dealing with nationalists, even neo-nazis, have you learnt about their feelings towards the most publicly famous communist ever? Maybe not the best way to use an example, it’s like neo-nazis quoting Hitler, yeah you won’t pay much attention to it regardless of whether it appears to have some valid intellectualisms in it either.
SA scs member Dec 30th, 2008 at 10:45 am
“yes my family came from whales”
Interesting statement that one, might explain your illiteracy given that whales have brains the size of a peanut.
“so u can stik that rite up ur ass wel u brobly dnt have 2 cuz i think u have allready got ur bf dik”
The above statement reinforces everything that people have said in this blog about the SCS cadre.
When someone calls into question the sexual preference of another it generally shows an inability to develop a rational mature response to an argument, not unexpected though.
“up there an i dnt no about working do i i starded working wen i waz 12 an still am az a panel beater so like i said b4 dnt say shit that u no nothink about an if u realy think were so bad afta all the stuff we do 4 people that go thru shit life styles wat do u do 4 this country an people u dnt no brobly jak shit so shut ur mouth b4 we shut it 4 u”
The above just supports my earlier statements.
The rest of you SCS morons who have posted in this blog claiming to be “serving the country” you make me sick, I have served this country twice and still do.
I would not let you spit on my shoes to shine them, you are nothing short of a disgrace.
To hide behind the flag claiming you are standing up for Australia is an affront to all Australians alive or otherwise.
Anyone who thinks that wearing the flag is “Australian” and “patriotic” is an idiot who has no idea, it is an insult to the flag and country dipsticks.
Why do you think we drape the flag over the coffins of the Australian soldiers who die? We do it to show that the country respects the sacrifice they made and that they are presenting to God as an honourable and loyal “Australian” — something that you clearly have no idea what that is.
You drape the flag around your shoulders you disrespect it.
You allow the flag to touch the ground, disrespect.
You wear clothes with the flag design, disrespect.
You put sticker flags on your car window, disrespect.
You go on about how you stood up at Cronulla and fought the good fight, crap! You are no better than the gang of Arabs that raped those girls in Sydney.
You lowered yourself to the same level as them and continue to do so with your vitriol. Congratulations, losers.
True Aussies are better than that, they rise above the pathetic insults thrown at them by these minority groups, something that most of you are clearly incapable of.
Soldiers PFFFT! Pathetic, the lot of you.
Helen: excellent use of the English language. That is all I have to say. Danke!
Jamie, Jamie, Jamie, what are you on about?
I wrote – “To be either an Angle, Saxon, Jute or so called Celt is a matter of culture and language”
In other words these names “Anglo”, “Celt” etc only have meaning when they define a cultural/national/linguistic group. This has nothing to do with “race”.
The phrase Anglo/Celtic is an oxymoron (oxymoran – US spelling!) because both groups are culturally distinct in the area they’ve originated from.
In this country the culture is Anglo – consequently all peoples who come here end up adopting Anglo culture – unless they keep their own language. This is usually the case with all migrants by the second generation.
You write –
“Australia was not another country or monarchy, it was under Crown rule, just as those who were convicted by its laws were. It was founded as another country in 1901 but still part of Britain and its laws”
I agree with that and it is for these reasons you’ve outlined that the phrase Anglo-Celtic makes no sense.
You’ve lost me here –
“Also, as an aside, when dealing with nationalists, even neo-nazis, have you learnt about their feelings towards the most publicly famous communist ever? Maybe not the best way to use an example, it’s like neo-nazis quoting Hitler.”
It’s not a question of their feelings. Stalin was a Marxist expert in the area of linguistics and the national question. Have a read of the article I linked to as it deals with the question of language and nationality.
Steve wrote –
“SA scs member Dec 30th, 2008 at 10:45 am
“yes my family came from whales”
Interesting statement that one, might explain your illiteracy given that whales have brains the size of a peanut”
No getting off the canvas after that one!
“Stalin was a Marxist expert in the area of linguistics and the national question.”
No getting off the canvas after that one! ROFLMAO.
Well there isn’t a section in the Anarchist Cookbook on linguistics and nationalities policy.
LMHAO.
Paul, Paul Paul,
Knowing less about grammar and more about typography, I’ll still attempt to address your concerns about “anglo-celtic”.
Hyphens can mean many things. It can lead to clarity but can also lead to confusion, especially in the case of “noun-noun”. Some publishing houses don’t use compound modifiers (I think) in the case of “noun-noun”, some do.
The hyphen is being used to denote a relationship between “anglo” and “celtic”. Properly speaking an en-dash (–) should be used, as opposed to a short hyphen (-), to denote a ranged noun–noun compound modifier. I’m thinking of things like “Labour–Liberal politics”. You can be of “anglo-celtic stock” (compound modifier) or speak of “broad anglo-celtic cultural similarities” or “anglo–celtic culture” if you mean something that spans both (such as contemporary language, laws, genetics or chavs).
Also, the relationship between the two cultures doesn’t seem, to me at least, to have such a gulf that this hyphenation would seem strange at first, such as “afro–mongol culture.”
Like I said, my grammar isn’t the best and I’ll probably be corrected. I’m going to send you a referral to Dr Cam as he seems to be the expert in the field.
P.S. En dashes and hyphens aside, Southern Cross Soldiers are still as stupid and ugly as a bag of dick. For a bunch of hard-arses describing themselves as “soldiers”, they appear to be very good at racking up the casualties at least — and they haven’t even met their avowed enemies yet!