Southern Cross Soldiers’ first casualty

So the media has revealed Tyler Cassidy‘s connection to the Southern Cross Soldiers

Curiously, the main SCS page on myspace has been cancelled

    Invalid Friend ID.

    This user has either cancelled their membership, or their account has been deleted.

For the curious, there’s Google cache.

I wonder if SCS will be calling on the talents of their media spokesperson Adds, or legal eagle Gazza?

Also for the curious : Tyler’s myspace page: TYLERS [S.C.S] P.T.B.A heart is screaming with pride

THE following are the events leading to the fatal shooting of 15-year-old Tyler Cassidy in Melbourne on Thursday night:

7.00pm-8.30pm (AEDT)

* Tyler Cassidy is involved in a fight at family home in Northcote, and takes two knives but family members disarm him.
* Tyler leaves the house angry and upset and goes to Northcote Plaza shopping centre. He goes into K-Mart store and steals two knives, according to a witness. He slashed boxes as he left armed with the knives. Police are contacted.

9.30pm

* Tyler is seen behaving irrationally with the knives in the centre carpark and goes to All Nations Park next to the shopping centre. More calls to police are made.
* Four police officers – two males and two females – arrive and try to negotiate with the boy.
* He approaches officers so they deploy capsicum spray, but it does not subdue him.
* Tyler urges police to kill him or he will kill them. He approaches one officer and a warning shot is fired. He ignores demands to back off and three of the four officers fire, killing him.

AAP

Statement from the family of Tyler Cassidy about his shooting death

The entire family and friends of Tyler Cassidy are appalled at the actions by the Victoria Police last night.

Their heavy-handedness, and lack of negotiating skills at the scene of the shooting, contributed to the untimely death of our beautiful 15 year old.

He was in the prime of his life, had just started a new school, and was coping really well. He was a popular student with high expectations and a good network of friends.

The Northcote police were notified 30 minutes prior to the killing and briefed completely on what had happened including what he was wearing and to look out for Tyler.

The four officers concerned acted unacceptably by killing Tyler last night. He had a very gentle side, striving to grow from a boy into a young man and would have been completely overwhelmed by the situation.

The police according to our witnesses chased him, cornered him at the skate park in Northcote, he was surrounded and gunned down by four officers firing at least six or seven shots.

Our eyewitness confirmed that Tyler patted her dog, was confronted by the police and sprayed with capsicum foam, then pursued to the skate park, surrounded and hunted down.

We look forward to a serious and thorough investigation and inquest into why Tyler was killed and to the serious nature of the attending officers’ actions.

It should have been dealt with differently and more compassionately, but tragically resulted in Tyler’s death that should have been avoided.

“I promise you my darling, I will fight for you as you were taken from me under the most horrific circumstances.

“Why was he slayed to death when it was so unnecessary. Four officers were not capable of managing the situation.

“Now you have passed over I will speak for you and others like you,” Shani, Tyler’s mother

This is a released statement on behalf of his loving family and friends. He died alone without his family at his side, gasping his last breath, he was only a scared little boy… Rest in Peace. 12/12/2008

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126 Responses to Southern Cross Soldiers’ first casualty

  1. black and red says:

    Sucks the kid was a stupid fascist, but still majorly fucked up that the pigs killed him.

  2. Justice says:

    Another snotty nosed, shitty arsed asshole bites the dust.

    It’ll be a better planet tomorrow.

  3. Anne says:

    How bloody dare you call this a “Southern Cross So[l]diers first casualty”. D[e]spicable, disgusting untruth. How offensive to our soldiers. This is a 15 year old thug who would never have made a soldier’s bootlace. Most of the blame must lie with the parents as usual it is the parents who mould the child. Mould them into a drug crazed idiot who attacks police, then suffer the consequences. I have no sympathy for him or his family. I am glad our Police have taken one more threat off our streets.

  4. @ndy says:

    Anne: May I suggest a nice cup of tea and a lie down?

  5. random says:

    Southern Cross Soldiers indeed! This mob claiming to be fighting for everything Australian, QANTAS, Tooheys and so on, well, the picture showing the latest “victim” of police shootings, the Poster boy and Martyr for Southern Cross soldiers, is shown wearing a NIKE T-Shirt…
    Was he wearing absolutely anything made in Australia…
    Real values and ideals start with the underpants, so its gotta be Bonds!
    PS. RACISM IS UNAUSTRALIAN!

  6. John says:

    He was no more of a sheep than you so called anarchists.

  7. @ndy says:

    Pigs, planets, bootlaces, t-shirts, underpants and sheep…

    This thread is getting rather WeIrD…

  8. Helen says:

    Maybe it IS appropriate to use scare quotes for “Southern Cross Soldiers”, it is a little offensive to the ADF to be using the word Soldiers to describe those kids in un-ironic fashion. IMO.

  9. Andy says:

    The killing of this young boy (even if he was mixed up) is a national disgrace.
    The Police acted like the gun happy gestapo that unfortunately some of them are.
    There should be an open enquiry and the officers kicked out of the Police.
    However the fault is the training of our Police force, they are trained to be thugs with guns.
    Australia needs more intelligent and better trained officers who can handle a situation where a child has gone off the rails a little – gunning the kid down like a dog is very un-Australian – or should be!

  10. John says:

    Helen, You have no idea on said topic. Please cease and desist.

  11. wayne says:

    I dont know about any body else this leaves a bad taste in my mouth.I cant beleive that 4 trained police offices could not control one mixed up 15 year old,with or without a knife and i am sure they needed to shoot this kid 5 or 6 times in the chest to pull him up what a load of shit.

  12. GI Jane says:

    Nobody deserves to die just because he was angry and had a couple of knives in his hands. Half the people who called the police were probably totally weak, pathetic, American-style, dumbed-down, pointless something-or-others.

    Where’s your social conscience?

    So he was behaving a little erratically…haven’t you ever been angry? Whenever someone does something a little out of the ordinary now masses of people make out like they’re a nutcase – just cause someone dares to express some emotion…

    Get off your valium, serapax or whatever other drugs your brainwashed doctor has prescribed and face reality. If it’s awful then work to fix it – don’t resort to legal or illegal drugs, television or pointless prayer to numb the pain.

    Our country is over-run with non-whites that place huge burdens on our legal system, hospitals and education system. Our youth are suffering. This is not the country the ANZACS fought for and by the way they WERE racist – racist in terms of knowing that the races ARE different – doesn’t mean they hated them – just means they were aware of reality not deluded by a PC main-stream media into some stupid multicultural agenda that will never work in the real world. The ANZACS called Italians I-ties, Japs nips, and Germans the hun… they knew the Japs were eating POWs and using them for bayonet practice, they knew the truth. I have letters written home by my grandfather to prove it. We don’t hate other races, we just want them to stay in their own countries and fix them up themselves rather than jumping ship and coming here and trying to change our way of life. This is part of the Commonwealth – we are Anglo-Saxon/European NOT Negro, Oriental or Asian. We are Christian, not Muslim or Jew or Hindu.

    Tyler was right. He was just too young and frustrated to handle it well and the police need to wake up and serve morality not immoral laws that remove freedoms. Most of you police signed up because you believe in justice. The laws you enforce today are far from just. Work from the inside for the right cause – I implore you.

  13. Timbo says:

    I can understand the parents’ grief but their statement seems to have omitted words like “knives” and “kill me”. Were they unaware of his problems? Or did they simply ignore them? The police were under extreme pressure but why not wound him to immobilize him, then trap him in nets?

  14. Theo Vogel says:

    That must be a funny police force which can’t handle a 15 year old boy.
    I call this murder.

  15. Theo Vogel says:

    I find if four Police Officers can’t detain a 15 year old boy, then there must be something very wrong with their training. The first law for the Police should be
    that all life must be protected.

  16. well done says:

    the police did what they had to do to protect themselves and the community, well done.
    none of this would have happened if the parents had any form of control over their 15 year old son, it is the parents that mould their children and determine what kind of people they become. The parents are the true disgraces.

  17. sam says:

    “How offensive to our soldiers. This is a 15 year old thug who would never have made a soldier’s bootlace.”- Anne

    Perhaps the SCS doesn’t deliberately recruit this kind of person, but what is it that attracts this kind of “drug crazed idiot who attacks police” – Anne to SCS?

    What proportion of SCS consists of people like this who have been similarly attracted by this kind of organisation. Anne: I fail to see how denigrating this kid absolves SCS. Shit attracts flies.

    Interested in your opinons.

    – Sam

  18. northy white says:

    time to go southern cross soldiers, kindly retire before you all end up like your first casualty… there’s more to life than concerning yourself with another person’s race… skin colour… religion… the world is getting smaller with each passing second… find another interest.

    thanks to vic police for showing the world what is to be done with racists.

  19. duane says:

    people say that his parents should hav a firm control of him then in the same hand when you belt your kids to do so these same people call welfare and say you should not smack your kids this is drumed into kids of today thats y they walk all over there parents so to all you people that cant mind there own business and that hav called welfare this is your folt kids hav control of there parents not the parents who still smack there kids its a social problem because welfare has to much say in what a parent cant do to there kids so get a hold on your dopping and stop ring welfare all you bussy bodies you know if your won or not let parents be hard parents and mybe things will go back the way it was when kids use to be sceared of piss adults off and had respect for there olders now now police can charge parents that try to control THERE kids parents should have the say there bring them into the world but some young just out of uni welfare worker and teaChers tell kids there parent arnt aloud to smack them teachers should bring back the strap so parents like tylers can control them

  20. Wen says:

    GI Jane – you are delusional – let me guess Romper Stomper is one of your favourite movies – and remember how that ended. Uneducated, foolish and ignorant people like you are the reason Tyler died.

  21. @ndy says:

    Dear duane,

    I think you may be a trifle insane.

    Dear Wen,

    ‘GI Jane’ is a regular contributor to Stormfront, the world’s #1 internet forum for white supremacists. (She probably thinks you’re Jewish.)

  22. We Want Justice says:

    In Northcote fields the poppies blow
    Between the crosses, row on row
    That mark our place; and in the sky
    The larks, still bravely singing, fly
    Scarce heard amid the guns below.

    We are the dead. Short days ago
    We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow
    Loved, and were loved, and now we lie
    In Northcote fields.

    Take up our quarrel with the foe:
    To you from failing hands we throw
    The torch; be yours to hold it high.
    If ye break faith with us who die
    We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
    In Northcote fields.

    RIP TYLER

    u were a tru aussie hero and i will never forget the advise u gave me about it not being gay if your balls dont touch.

  23. RAWR says:

    >Random.

    Surely a mambo tee would be better than bonds? leave bonds to the undies.

    Anyway, I’m a bit on the fence about S.C.S as a whole, but I do know there’s a whole subculture using the group and its values as an excuse to commit hate crimes.

    More to the point, Tyler must have been on some kind of drugs to not be hindered by capsicum foam, which is used to incapacitate grown men. From the picture above [?] you can tell he’s a slight guy, and would have gone down. He was a threat to the life of those policemen. It is a tragedy that this life was wasted, but the police are not at fault.

  24. Pool Boy says:

    Awesome.

    The gene pool gets another cap full of chlorine.

    One less shitbag kid to bother the world!

  25. john says:

    A very sad incident. This kid was clearly having a major outburst, which kids do, and it’s ended in his death. There has been no mention of a father in any of the reporting I have seen [Tyler’s father died of cancer several years ago — this has been mentioned in several reports] and while most single mums do their absolute best to discipline and guide their children, it is very hard to control an adolescent male without some adult male support. The statistics bear this out and I am not slinging off at single mums here – as a bloke I am more critical of the so-called men who fail in their duties in so many families. If the father is not on the scene, maybe a tragedy took him away – I don’t know so that comment is based on assumptions and not specific knowledge.

    I was angry at the police for what happened to that French guy on Bondi a few years ago – a psychotic episode that should have been dealt with so differently. Now, a little older, I know that it is the politicians who are at fault for the death of this child. The police have strict rules of engagement and are generally disciplined in enacting them. I have no reason to doubt this so far. The real culprit here are the people who have repeatedly failed to provide the police with a viable means of disabling people without killing them. I know that there is a major debate about stun guns etc at the moment but the dithering of politicians contributed to the death of this kid.

    Whatever the reasons for this kid going off, you have to be pretty upset to ignore the repeated directions of four cops, let alone four cops with guns pointed at you. You are suicidal or detached from reality at that point. For this reason I believe that the understandable comments from the family of this kid must be put in context – the cops would have stunned him if they could. And if people want the cops to either attempt to disarm people manually a la Jackie Chan or to employ highly trained negotiation and de-escalation skills, they should have been pushing for doubled pay rates and tripled training for cops years ago – now is too late.

    Maybe a serious debate can be had about whether cops should back down in certain situations – they are trained to insist on compliance whereas sometimes walking away or backing off can cause an explosive situation to lengthen to the point where the person(s) simply run out of energy. Sometimes when people are looking for a fight, you just don’t give it to them. I have seen this work in mental health and disability but it will not work all the time. I know that it is important for our police to retain their authority so I don’t pretend to have all the answers there.

    cheers John.

    PS: this racist stuff is interesting to see and a bit freaky. I always knew there was a fringe of people but this is the first time I have seen it in writing. I have never met a racist person who was happy, well adjusted and living their lives well and fully – generally they are poor or stupid or lazy or blaming others for problems caused by themselves or their parents etc. I thought “GI Jane” was lying too by the way – they would know that people like them and their groups are monitored so they try to present a reasonable, non violent image of themselves publicly while actually being seriously violent and nasty.

    PPS: OK, Duane won’t win any writing awards but I understand what he is trying to say – many parents don’t have the skills and tools they need to do their jobs these days.

  26. 47Cyanide47 says:

    Sure it’s said that he died, but what was the police meant to do? Let him kill them? There’s no way the situation could turn out good, either he died, or they did.

  27. Anglo Aussie says:

    Another Victorian Police Shooting . The Kid needed help , advice or just a compassionate ear . Not Bullets . What a bunch of low weak dogs , murderous dogs . The boy was a child , How can four trained adults let this happen . GI JANE I admire your ability to see truth .

  28. john says:

    Hey @ndy thanks, I am having a look through that now. cheers john

  29. Matt says:

    I would just like to add that this kid drank alcohol. That might have aggrivated him as well.

  30. CaptainReality says:

    How to die:

    Step 1. Steal 2 knives from a shop. Threaten some people.
    Step 2. Wander around with your knives.
    Step 3. Wait for police to turn up.
    Step 4. Under no circumstance drop the knives. Advance on the police and verbally threaten them.
    Step 5. Get shot.

    This is a more reliable recipe for death than slitting your wrists or trying to overdose. That’s what this moron did. Predictably, he was shot. That’s what you get.

    A job well done by the police. They were protecting the public.

  31. peter says:

    When my son was 15 he pulled a knife on me. I used instinct to disarm him, without hurting him. The Victorian police have a bit of a “name” for shoot first ask questions later, I think the training is the issue. We could blame the government but “we are the government” so to fix this problem we need to close ranks so to speak. Start with the flag(s) vote for a new flag that unites all of us no union jack, no [Aboriginal] markings just a southern cross and a kangaroo. Next we stop any public indication of relig[i]on of any type including the wearing of headgear. Next make it illegal to speak another language other than english unless the person is on a foreign passport. Any organization that promotes racism or violence put down quickly and most importantly (re.john) if someone is looking for a fight don’t give it to them. Peace be to all of us.

  32. Bonza says:

    Well what do you [expect] from a southern cross soldier . They preach violence to Australians both to their followers and their victim . A fascist organisation will poison the minds of their followers . The sooner legislation is put into force to curb these organisations the better off we are as a society . Australia is a land of migrants . White Supremacist are real sickos.
    I don’t blame the cops either . After several warnings and sprays . He doesn’t budge .
    Well …

    Bonza

  33. Blergh says:

    this is either premeditated suicide by cop, or a meth binge gone bad. if some little shit came at me with a knife and seemed immune to pepper spray, id shoot too. by all accounts this kid drank too much, didnt go to school, got in grief with the cops on other occasions – im curious to see how this is anyones fault other than his and his parents??? let me know how my university educated, employed, law abiding, tax paying ‘jap’ friends have contributed to this death as i am very interested.

  34. reality says:

    O.k, everyones got opi[ni]ons all based on too much [time] in front of computers, with no facts. But it does seem strange that months ago an armed person took potshots at police and they decided it was to[o] risky so they did nothing, a week later that bloke shot 2 innocent men in the cbd. Months later a bikie group with known criminals was given police escort around the place at our expense (do any of you get this service[?])
    Seems if its dicey for police you can do as you wish, unless your an angry teenager then all force must be used. If you want to achieve some issue in victoria become an immigrant taxi driver then throw a tantrum in flinders street holding up the city and you will get whatever you want, unless your a white Australian then you get arrested.

  35. Jonesie says:

    why dont all you who are putting S.C.S. down grow up an relize that yeah 1 kid from S.C.S. had a knife and was upset because it was the anaverary to his dads death and he had been drinking 1 dosnt meen hes a bad kid who deserves to die 2 that hes always like that he was up set so nowander hes like that and 3 dont judge a whole group of people on 1 kids actions S.C.S. is a group of people who are proud to be aussie and they show that if your to fucked up to show who you realy are thats your problem dont go smashing all us that arnt

  36. Bigfella says:

    Some interesting threads here.
    Today was the first I’ve heard of this ‘Southern Cross Soldiers’ and I have to say that it’s about time that Aussies stopped being so apathetic to how this country’s turned, and that we are finally doing SOMETHING to preserve Australian culture.
    We have, for far too long, been too laid back and as I said APATHETIC, and we have let ourselves start to be edged out of our own country.
    There is too little national pride, our identity is fading into obscurity and it’s not racism to be proud of who you are. When ANY OTHER CULTURE! OTHER THAN WHITES! celebrate the[ir] identity, no-one has a problem! But as soon as a white person does it it’s racist!
    TOTAL GARBAGE!!!
    White Australians are the ones being d[i]scriminated against.

  37. Spider Girl says:

    Appears to be straight out ‘suicide by cop.’ I feel for the officers who walked into this shit fight and had to shoot a mentally ill teenager to save themselves and their partners. Sure, they know the risk when they join the job, but I am sure that none of these four officers woke up that morning and thought, ‘Fuck, I hope I get to kill someone today!’

  38. @ndy says:

    Spider Girl: Yeah. Pretty much. There’s no pride in killing.

  39. Chriso says:

    The guy had 2 knives in both hands!!! He got what he deserved! The cops are NOT trained to distinguish between a 15 year old with 2 knives and a 30 yr old with the same 2 knives!!! The cops see a knife and they act accordingly!! End of story! RIP.

  40. vivahate says:

    Bigfella, your opinion might hold some weight if Anglos were the original inhabitants of this country but the reality is we came here just the same as every other non-Indigenous inhabitant so we have no right to call it “our country.”

    Propagandhi got it right, the only good fascist is a dead fascist.

  41. @ndy says:

    Speaking of Propagandhi…

    *
    02/11/09 – Wellington, New Zealand
    San Francisco Bathhouse
    (All ages? No)
    *
    02/12/09 – Auckland, New Zealand
    Kings Arms
    (All ages? No)
    *
    02/13/09 – Brisbane, QLD, Australia
    The Arena
    (All ages? No)
    *
    02/14/09 – Gold Coast, QLD, Australia
    Coolangatta Hotel
    (All ages? No)
    *
    02/15/09 – Sydney, Australia
    The Metro Theatre
    (All ages? Yes)
    *
    02/18/09 – Callaghan, NSW, Australia
    Newcastle University – Bar On The Hill
    (All ages? No)
    *
    02/19/09 – North Wollongong, NSW, Australia
    Wollongong UniBar
    (All ages? No)
    *
    02/20/09 – Weston Creek, ACT, Australia
    Weston Creek Youth Centre
    (All ages? Yes)
    *
    02/21/09 – Melbourne, VIC, Australia
    The Corner Hotel
    (All ages? No)
    *
    02/22/09 – Melbourne, VIC, Australia
    The Corner Hotel
    (All ages? No)
    *
    02/24/09 – Adelaide, SA, Australia
    Fowler’s Live
    (All ages? Yes)
    *
    02/25/09 – Perth, WA, Australia
    The Capitol
    (All ages? No)

  42. vivahate says:

    it will be an excellent 2 weeks when they hit our shores again

  43. Wanker and a half is dead. says:

    This faggot’s death should be a darwin award nomination. one less dick from the genepool.

  44. karlcaffrey says:

    gijane You idiotic moron,
    Are you so blind as not to realise
    that Australia has a black history?

  45. Rolls says:

    @peter “vote for a new flag that unites all of us no union jack”

    I might agree about what some Irish call “the butcher’s apron”, but there is every indication that a clear majority of Aussies are more than happy with the one we’ve got, and RSL’s could be expected to go totally ballistic.

    @peter “Next we stop any public indication of relig[i]on of any type …”

    Again I might agree, but there are going to be an awful lot of Catholics and charasmatic Christians, for example, who are going to be outraged by the banning of any display of the cross, not just Jews, Mulims, etc. Can we expect our own Sharia-cops busting people with a cross around the neck, or a T-shirt or exposed tat that could be defined as “religious”?

    You seem unaware that a bloke called Stalin already tried this, and it didn’t really work out. 🙂

    @peter “make it illegal to speak another language other than english”

    Some Catholics and charismatics aren’t going to be too thrilled about the banning of Latin or speaking in tongues either.

    Then take a look at the “english” posted by many of the PTBA’s, and it looks like they won’t be too keen on learning english either. (Better yet, get off your lazy arse and learn how to say “hello”, “please”, “thankyou” and “goodbye”, in the languages around your suburb. In Northcote you could start with “eff-har-ris-TOH” – or is that just too difficult?)

    @Jonesie “you who are putting S.C.S. down grow up an relize” … “anaverary to his dads death” … “dosnt meen hes a bad kid” … “he was up set so nowander hes like that” … “if your to fucked up to show who you realy are”.

    “Grow up” – and write like a teen dweeb?

    (BTW, it appears that he set *himself* up by calling the police)

    There are many things that badly need to be fixed, not just in Australia. But groups like SCS and the American-sourced “Creation” movement are the unwitting pawns of the status-quo – (translation; uve bin SUCKERED bi ur REEL nmees).

    If they gave it *real* thought for only one minute PTBA’s would realise they have *common issue* with, for example, G-20 protestors against globalisation and multi-national corporations, and with logging protestors non-violently resisting police and loggers for the sake of our drinking water (and non-violent resistance take a lot more cold courage than drunken gang biffo).

    Look on the bottom of your X-Box, Playstation, or whatever, and see *where* it was made, and ask yourself “why?”. WHO DECIDED to dumb Australia down by privatising education and exporting existing and potential jobs, until our only ace is a hole in the ground? (and for the most part we don’t even own the fucking hole!)

    That deprived young Aussies of career paths with Hexfees, closing TAFE’s, and casualising the workplace – “Maccer-isation”. What colour/ethicity are they? The Greek fish&chip shop owner, the Lebanese cafe owner, the Chinese in the local milkbar, the Indian mini-mart, the Sudanese cab driver?

    Or the Rambo’s of the business world – grossly overpaid White Anglo-American’s who don’t give a flying fuck if we can’t grow our own food due to climate change? That force the modern “Cane Toad” of GMO’s on us?

    In the end SCS, and the like, are just the unwitting and unpaid cannon-fodder for the Big End of town – millionare-shock-jock’s know-nothing Brownshirts.

    Every time a Tyler or Julian Knight “goes to war” against the people around him, then with police, the end result is always harsher laws and better armed policing, more heavy-handed transit cops, less personal freedom – in other words “repression”.

    It isn’t Osama or the Greeks or Muslim “mud people” that make me scared to return to Northcote Plaza K-Mark (where I was shopping the day before) – it’s another “White Aussie Patriot” in an advertising T-shirt like Tyler. These are real “terrorists” who leave us all worse off, living in fear of some spoiled, drunk, berko teen dweeb throwing a deadly tantrum.

    @Chriso “a 15 year old with 2 knives and a 30 yr old with the same 2 knives” – can also kill you just as dead! Unlike the ‘X-Station’, Real Life doesn’t come with a “reset” button.

    If you go around randomly picking fights with people, sooner or later you are going to pick somebody bigger and uglier who kicks the living tripe out of you for your trouble, and I suspect that is what happened earlier that day.

    Rebels without a clue.

  46. xhmko says:

    All this talk about australia being Anglo is rubbish. Check your history. The reason we have christianity is because it was imposed by successive conquests throughout the ages…when the romans got to England my ancestors were going to waterholes and casting magic spells…we are all under some spell…and as for people just staying in their country and dealing with their own problems…let’s face it…most “coloured” people in the world live in the shadow of colonial conquests that were carried out with vigour through the ages by Europeans…in that shadow it is dark and easy to make mistakes…show some compassion people…and this country is not “anglo” there have been middle eastern, indian, chinese people here as long as most of your families. and they most probably weren’t allowed to join the military to go and fight in world war one coz Australia was so “whitewashed” … I am worried about all this talk…it is pervading my family…it is pervading people’s perception of australians… as i travel outside its borders i meet so many people who think we are just the most racist bunch of people on earth…i don’t think its true though…coz racism and classism and all sorts of methods of discrimination are in place all over this world…there is no “supreme” race…OZ is not No 1..It is whatever we make it…and one day some of these racists will end up in hospital with an indian doctor and a chinese nurse taking care of them…

    travel wide

  47. peter says:

    Rolls, I think a clear majority is true currently but you will no doubt be aware that each time there is a referendum the pro union jack mob are decreasing and I think that the young auzzies, Tyler and others are becoming aware that this flag is toxic to our peoples, as far as the RSL is concerned I think that they are a racist mob just as are many of our associations. As far as religions are concerned, I believe that all religions are hypocritical, they will all say to you that “their ” brand is the true one and preach love thy neigbour but then will either murder in God’s name or put another religion “on the coat” so put the cross inside the jumper and speak latin inside the church but not in the resturaunt or on the train, and get rid of abstudy, stop favoring any race, creed or culture above another. As far as speaking in the languages of my suburb, its all ozzie, mundaring W.A., in summary I guess we all need to remember one word – respect.

  48. Doody says:

    to understand this situation better i suggest watching the movie “this is england”
    came out last year. i think bears a hell of a lot of similaries to this situation.

    except with a slightly happier ending.

    if this is even ended.

  49. Hugh Jorgan says:

    Surely the cops had other alternatives…?

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