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January 26Australia / Invasion / Survival Day — is only a couple of weeks away, and many will be celebrating / mourning. On the far right, Doctor James Saleam and his Australia First Party NSW (to be confused with the Australia First Party but not the Australian Protectionist Party) will, among other things, be attempting to capitalise upon anti-Muslim sentiment in Camden, NSW. To that end, Jimmy & The Boys (including, presumably, Ross ‘The Skull’ May) will be peddling Party literature to the people of Camden at a public rally.

Not a problem?

According to one report “The president of the Camden McArthur Residents Group, Emil Sremchevich, said Australia First was entitled to hold a rally in Camden so long as it wasn’t racist. “Everybody has a right to express their political sentiments and messages as long as they do not vilify anybody,” Mr Sremchevich told AAP” (Anti-Islamic rally OK, residents say, AAP, Sydney Morning Herald, January 9, 2008).

In which case, Emil is effectively arguing that Australia First is not entitled to hold a rally in Camden, as its principal platform — and in fact its main selling point for its few score members — is precisely its racist call for a White Australia. Notably, the leader of Australia First (NSW), Doctor Jim, has a criminal conviction for arranging a shotgun assault upon the home of an anti-apartheid activist… suggesting Jim is convinced not only of the virtues of a White Australia, but a White South Africa too.

Still, these aren’t the only zany antics planned by crazy local fascists, as revealed in the following article in The Daily Telegraph:

RSL slams Australia Day hijack
Joe Hildebrand
The Daily Telegraph
January 10, 2008

WHITE supremacists are plotting to use Cronulla riot-style tactics to hijack Australia Day celebrations across Sydney – including a plan to push their racist views at the sacred Anzac Cenotaph at Hyde Park.

The attempt to co-opt the war memorial to create the impression “Hitler is coming to Sydney” has disgusted veterans, with the RSL calling it an appalling slur on the memory of our Diggers.

Other rallies will be held near the scene of the Cronulla riot and in Camden to protest the construction of an Islamic school.

The far-Right groups even promote an online handbook on how to combat police and avoid detection and infiltration when holding such meetings.

In an embarrassing display of incompetence, much of the material uncovered by The Daily Telegraph includes warnings about the need to keep such material secret from the media and this newspaper in particular.

The racist material, which condemns migrants for not being able to speak English, is riddled with spelling mistakes and poor grammar.

Much of the activity has been co-ordinated through the neo-Nazi website Stormfront, whose Australian arm is moderated by 18-year-old Newcastle resident Rhys McLean.

    Above : Rhys McLean models a symbol of the Hindu goddess Kali (or possibly Nazi Party).

Mr McLean said he was aware of the plans but said it was a matter for the individual organisers, not the website.

The main organiser is a semi-literate man from southwest Sydney who posts under the name “Aussie Nationalist”.

After taking a poll of preferred locations, including Cronulla, the Central Coast and Bondi – because of its large Jewish population – the group appeared to settle on one of Sydney’s most sacred sites.

“The location is Hyde Park, preferably near the Cenotaph which is a place of eternal honour and the epitomy (sic) of the Australian Spirit,” Aussie Nationalist wrote.

RSL president Bill Crews said the plan was disgusting.

“We’d be appalled by any attempt to use any memorial or the Anzac memorial in Hyde Park to support any prejudiced political group,” he said.

[Note that last year the Eastwood RSL played host to a conference organised by Saleam and Australia First, and for which a German neo-Nazi named Welf Herfurth played the role of MC. The RSL’s opposition to fascist and white supremacist elements is apparently dependent upon the circumstances…]

Another organiser promotes using tactics similar to the 2005 Cronulla riot, when en masse text messages were used to swamp the beach with violent thugs intent on bashing anyone of ethnic appearance.

“Organise flyer drops two weeks before the rally in Sydney and its surrounds, and start a Cronulla style SMS campaign five days before the rally,” the poster identified as “Awake at last” wrote.

“Hopefully by the time the rally starts the media will have everyone thinking Adolf Hitler is coming to Sydney.”

The threads also encourage users to consult a manual entitled How to Combat the Political Police.

An electronic newsletter distributed by the far-right Australia First Party employs the tactics, promising a rally near Cronulla and in Camden but refusing to disclose the exact location until the morning of January 26.

One meeting will be held in “a club in the Sutherland Shire” and be addressed by convicted race-hate criminal Jim Saleam.

Interestingly, Saleam has been a member of the Stormfront forum for a number of years, where he posts under the pseudonym ‘radnat’. (Rhys McLean, on the other hand, employed the pseudonym ‘Australian Euro’.) In addition to being united in joy by their desire for a White Australia, Saleam and McLean also utterly despise Jews, who are imagined as having embarked upon a genocidal campaign to destroy The White Man. This concept is given its fullest expression by the pseudonymous Yanqui ‘jack_boot’:

    Here is the current Statement of Stormfront policy:

    …First, we share a racialist vision for the general prosperity, security, and betterment of our people.

    From that commitment flows our most important message: we name the Jew as the deadliest, if not the only, threat to our existence as a race. Forge this message in titanium.

    …That, in a nutshell, is Stormfront policy.

    jack_boot,
    –Chief of Staff, Stormfront

Speaking of nuts, one of the other, er, ‘patriotic’ activities planned by Australia First is an address by Rex Gilroy. Rex’s talk is titled ‘Not The First, Not Alone’ and will apparently “place Aboriginal settlement in a broader and richer context” and reference “New evidence of human migrations”. This new context is indeed much ‘broader’ and ‘richer’ than less intrepid minds imagine. In other words, Rex is of the opinion that conventional history is bunk, and that Aboriginal Australia was preceded by another civilization: Uru.

What is it like to suddenly realise that you are the discoverer of an hitherto unknown ‘lost’ civilisation?

Words cannot describe my feelings at the moment I realised I had made such a discovery, and the enormous importance it had for Australian, and World history. I suppose the nearest description one could give of my feelings would be to compare them with the excitement of Heinrich Schliemann, when he discovered the ‘mythical’ lost city of Troy in 1873.

More recently, Rex has been chasing after the “presumed-extinct little scrub moa – anomalopteryx didiformis – in the Urewera Ranges” (Aussie pursuing moa in New Zealand, The Age, January 8, 2008). Perhaps in the course of his pursuit he’ll stumble upon another Lost Civilization? Or — rarer still — a credible neo-Nazi ideologue?

But enough of Germany in the 1930s and ’40s; back to Australia in 2008. And news from Stormfront isn’t good.

[January 10, 2008]
jack_boot
Editor and Stormfront Chief of Staff
“Friend of Stormfront”
Sustaining Member

Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: a trailer park near you

By the way

AustralianEuro, [that is, Rhys McLean] an occasional moderator here on Stormfront Down Under, has thought the better of political involvement, and will not be back.
__________________

An awareness of such contradictions and incongruities can obviously introduce considerable doubt into the Court’s hand-me-down conception of the obviousness of “Holocaust,” and such obvious doubt is obviously capable of causing this ostensibly obvious “Manifest Obviousness” to appear as anything but obvious.

Ludwig Bock, Attorney at Law

In point of fact, not only is Rhys McLean no longer SFDU moderator, it appears that his account has been closed and his posts expunged from the historical record. Worse still, according to the Jew-hating, Holocaust-denying, wellie-wearing Editor and Stormfront Chief of Staff:

Another fellow, who calls himself Dead Raven, sent us this PM:

Look you retards, I want this account and all my posts deleted. Not banned, now if you want my good friend Baron to get involved it will happen, I[‘]m sure the antis would be interested in some of the things that we would have to say. Stop being so stupid and just fricken [!] Delete this account and all of the posts as well. !!!

Could this be the beginnings of another round of recriminations on Stormfront Down Under?
Will ‘Dead Raven’ spill his guts to “the antis”?
Who’ll next accept the poisoned chalice that is Scumfront Down Under moderator?
Who are the two bands scheduled to pollute the Sutherland Shire with noise on January 26?
Stay tuned for more reich ‘n’ roll!

And here’s some final words of wisdom from Herr Doktor:

Media image for White nationalists? My advice to White nationalist candidates in 2008 and for other spokesmen would be when confronted by media: dress in neat cardigans, speak as calmly as it’s possible to speak when speaking to The Jew, don’t swear too much and don’t really answer their ‘questions’ (especially if they concern your criminal record). Just put over your politics. Do not repeat do not act like Dr. Strangelove. Past that point, don’t worry too much, because it really doesn’t matter. The media will say whatever it wants. It’s controlled by you-know-who.

About @ndy

I live in Melbourne, Australia. I like anarchy. I don't like nazis. I enjoy eating pizza and drinking beer. I barrack for the greatest football team on Earth: Collingwood Magpies. The 2020 premiership's a cakewalk for the good old Collingwood.
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44 Responses to Australia Australia Australia

  1. mick rey says:

    Andy, why do you always support those fascists (Islam) – yet deny proud Australia’s their right to oppose this hate-ridden filth?

    According to one report “The president of the Camden McArthur Residents Group, Emil Sremchevich, said Australia First was entitled to hold a rally in Camden so long as it wasn’t racist. “Everybody has a right to express their political sentiments and messages as long as they do not vilify anybody…”

    …but they do have a right of freedom of speech. Islam has no place in Australian society!

    The attempt to co-opt the war memorial to create the impression “Hitler is coming to Sydney” has disgusted veterans, with the RSL calling it an appalling slur on the memory of our Diggers.

    RUBBISH!!!

    http://www.awm.gov.au/journal/j30/tanaka.htm

    Australian’s fought to protect Australia from being Asianised. It just goes to show that multiculturalism is Australia’s greatest enemy.

    Note that last year the Eastwood RSL played host to a conference organised by Saleam and Australia First, and for which a German neo-Nazi named Welf Herfurth played the role of MC. The RSL’s opposition to fascist and white supremacist elements is apparently dependent upon the circumstances…

    Yeah, the RSL also allowed Turks’s, and the Vietnamese to march on parade:

    http://en . epochtimes.com/news/6-4-18/40542.html

    What an f’n joke!!!

    I can tell you now, the RSL do not speek for all veterans.

  2. @ndy says:

    Mick,

    1)

    Unlike yourself, I make a distinction between Islam and fascism, and do not regard Islam as being a fascist doctrine but a religious doctrine based upon the utterances of a bloke called Mohammed many centuries ago. It’s a body of thought with a long history and one which is obviously subject to interpretation. For what it’s worth, within Australia, I find the writings of Irfan Yusuf to be a useful guide, as well as those contained on the blog Austrolabe.

    More generally, the Islamic Council of Victoria is a useful local source of information.

    For the record, and if it wasn’t obvious enough already, I’m an atheist.

    The place of Islam in Australian society is of a minority of the population: according to the 2006 census, approximately 340,392 people or 1.71% of the population identified themselves as being Muslim. (To put it another way, 98.29% of the population is not Muslim.) Most are foreign-born, and many Lebanese. Most live in Melbourne and Sydney, but Melbourne contains more Muslims of Turkish descent than Lebanese. Muslims are entitled to the same rights under the law as non-Muslims, but are subject to various forms of popular prejudice and discrimination.

    As for hate-ridden filth, a quick perusal of Stormfront will provide anyone with a good dose.

    2)

    The article by Tanaka Hiromi that you link to says literally nothing about the reasons Australian troops fought. Instead, it concerns ‘The Japanese Navy’s operations against Australia in the Second World War, with a commentary on Japanese sources’. A better account of Japanese war planning is provided in ‘On the Backgrounds of the Pacific War’ by Noam Chomsky (Liberation, September-October, 1967).

    On the potential threat of invasion by Japan during WWII, a paper by Peter Stanley, the Principal Historian at the Australian War Memorial, argues that despite it being a popular perception, there was, in fact, no invasion plan.

    Beyond this, fear of an Asian Invasion stretches back many years to the early nineteenth century, and is motivated not by any real threat but the fact that Australia was (and arguably still is, insofar as attitudes such as yours remain predominant) a White, British, colonial outpost, 16,259 kilometres distant.

    Finally, nothing of what you’ve written demonstrates that “multiculturalism is Australia’s greatest enemy”. Nor does it have anything to do with the otherwise reasonable opinion expressed by the RSL that the idea that “Hitler is coming to Sydney” on Australia Day — in fact, to the Sydney Cenotaph — is anything other than repugnant, especially as the 2nd AIF actually fought AGAINST Nazi Germany, and that many soldiers who died in this war are remembered by way of this monument.

    3)

    You appear to have much difficulty with basic comprehension skills. The article you cite (Turks Join the Ranks for ANZAC Day, Shar Adams, Epoch Times, April 18, 2006) notes that in 2006 Turkish Australian descendants of fathers and grandfathers that fought in Gallipoli will be officially allowed to march in the ANZAC parade in Melbourne for the first time.

    Why?

    [Victorian RSL Major General] David McLachlan says the new ruling was put in place because of the strength of the Turkish and Australian relationship over the national icon Gallipoli.

    “Turkey really accepted the bodies of our Australians that remained in Turkey after the war[.] [I]n those famous words of Ataturk […] ‘they are now our sons’.

    “And I mean that was very soon at the conclusion of that period of time and that relationship has been built up over the years.

    “First World War veterans that were at Gallipoli always saw the Turkish soldier as he was, as being an honourable enemy,” Major General McLachaln told ABC radio.

    The same privileges will not apply to descendants of German, Japanese, Italian or North Vietnamese soldiers.

    Regarding Vietnamese soldiers marching, some Vietnamese soldiers actually fought alongside of Australian soldiers. These soldiers were members of the ARVN (Army of the Republic of Vietnam). About 10,000 of these men now live in Victoria.

    Finally, the point of raising the issue of the 2007 Sydney Forum being held at Eastwood RSL was to highlight the fact that the same elements that RSL president Bill Crews said he was so disgusted by are the same elements which organised the Forum. In other words, in future, on the basis of such disgust, people like Dr James Saleam and Welf Herfurth, and organisations such as the Australia First Party (NSW) and the New Right, should be told to look elsewhere for a venue.

  3. Darrin Hodges says:

    1) APP is not a faction of AFP. APP is an independent entity that has nothing to do with AFP.

    2) Destiny magazine was never an AFP publication.

  4. mick rey says:

    Andy:

    Unlike yourself, I make a distinction between Islam and fascism, and do not regard Islam as being a fascist doctrine but a religious doctrine based upon the utterances of a bloke called Mohammed many centuries ago…

    Mick:

    That’s exactly what they want you to think, however that is far from the basis of Islam:

    http://www.pspruett.com/Images/islam-world.jpg
    http://www.farisqc.observationdeck.org/farisqc_images/islam99.jpg
    http://www.asianews.it/files/img/ISLAM_-_UK.jpg

    Sudan charges UK teacher with insulting Islam
    Posted Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:02am AEDT

    A British teacher detained in Sudan after her class named a teddy bear Mohammad has been officially charged with insulting Islam in a move that sparked a diplomatic row between the United Kingdom and Sudan.

    West underestimates the ‘evil of Islam’
    By Richard Kerbaj
    August 21, 2007 02:00am

    THE West was still underestimating the evil of Islam, an influential Muslim thinker has warned, insisting that Australia and the US have been duped into believing there is a difference between the religion’s moderate and radical interpretations…

    Andy:

    The article by Tanaka Hiromi that you link to says literally nothing about the reasons Australian troops fought. Instead, it concerns ‘The Japanese Navy’s operations against Australia in the Second World War, with a commentary on Japanese sources’. A better account of Japanese war planning is provided in ‘On the Backgrounds of the Pacific War’ by Noam Chomsky (Liberation, September-October, 1967).

    Mick:

    It certainly showed their opperations against Australians.

    Andy:

    On the potential threat of invasion by Japan during WWII, a paper by Peter Stanley, the Principal Historian at the Australian War Memorial, argues that despite it being a popular perception, there was, in fact, no invasion plan.

    Mick:

    WRONG!!!

    To appreciate that Australian territory was physically invaded in 1942 by Japanese troops, it is necessary to make the point that Papua was transferred by Britain to Australia in 1906, and was still an Australian Territory in 1942. New Guinea became an Australian League of Nations Mandate after World War I, and was being administered by Australia on behalf of the League of Nations in 1942. Both territories achieved independence from Australia simultaneously in 1975.

    [Also] The Japanese bombing of Darwin and northern Australia

  5. @ndy says:

    Mick,

    I see.

    So, three images and two articles form the basis of Islam.

    In response:

    The second two images are very well-known and in wide circulation. They depict signs held by a number of protesting Muslims outside of the Danish Embassy in London in February 2006. (Others include ‘Massacre those who insult Islam’, ‘Europe you will pay, your 9/11 will come’ and ‘Eat at Joe’s’. From what I can gather, the first is presumably of other protests around the world regarding the same issue.)

    According to a report by CNN:

    “A range of British Muslim organizations condemned the London protest, including the moderate Muslim Council of Britain to the more radical Hizb-ut-Tahrir, which Prime Minister Blair wants to outlaw because of claims it supports terrorism.

    “While strongly condemning the publication of these caricatures, we also unequivocally condemn those who are urging violent protests or inciting hatred against others,” Hizb-ut-Tahrir spokesman Imran Waheed told PA.”

    Which illustrates a very obvious point: just as is the case with Judaism, Christianity and other major (and minor) world religions, there are differences of opinion within Islam, both theological and political. In other words, Islam is not a political monolith. What ‘they’ want ‘me’ to think is not the product of some vast conspiracy but a complex matter of time, place, and perspective. In any case, I reserve the right to my own opinion, and as I’ve already indicated, I’m an atheist.

    In terms of the apparently pressing need to suppress radical or fundamentalist currents of Islamic opinion, to depict Islam as a whole in this way actually reinforces the position of such tendencies. The phony ‘War on Terror’ in Iraq, for example, has been a recruiting bonanza for these currents. Such anti-Islamic rhetoric also demonstrates a profound lack of a sense of history, or acknowledgement that ‘the Muslim World’ — like ‘the Christian World’ — is profoundly political. Thus the CIA’s support for the mujahideen in their struggle against the Afghani Government (“American officials estimate that, from 1985 to 1992, 12,500 foreigners were trained in bomb-making, sabotage and urban guerrilla warfare in Afghan camps the CIA helped to set up”) spawned a very special monster, of the kind famously identified by Chalmers Johnson as constituting a form of Blowback. The eradication of a secular Left in the Middle East and other regions of the Muslim world (for example, the massacres in Indonesia in 1965) also made political space available for the growth of ‘anti-Western, pro-Muslim’ forces; the open collusion between the (corrupt? despotic?) US state and the corrupt, despotic regimes of the Middle East serves to reinforce the appeal of radical Islamic forces, just as the role of these networks (such as the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt) in the provision of various forms of social welfare to the poor — especially in the absence of such measures by the oligarchs who rule the region — serves to bolster their popularity among the Arab masses.

    With regards the teddy bear incident in particular, here’s what the Islamic Council of Victoria had to say:

    ICV condemns the conviction of British School teacher

    Victoria’s peak Muslim body, the Islamic Council of Victoria, has condemned the conviction of British school teacher Gillian Gibbons by the Sudanese courts over the naming of a teddy bear by her students.

    “The ruling is not only beyond reason, but has no Islamic basis whatsoever” says ICV president Ramzi Elsayed. “We find the whole situation extremely troubling and are very concerned for the safety and well-being of Ms Gibbons”.

    Frankly, we don’t even understand what is meant to be offensive here. The whole episode is incomprehensible. Muhammad is a very common name, and it was the children’s choice to name the teddy bear anyway”.

    Sherene Hassan, ICV interfaith officer, agreed: “All indications suggest that Ms Gibbons has gone out of her way to respect local customs and religious practices. This woman went to Sudan with the intention of helping children in an impoverished and war-torn country, and it has ended like this through no fault of her own. We urge the Sudanese government to take all possible steps to prevent this miscarriage of justice”.

    As for Wafa Sultan, that’s a whole other story… but Stephen Stein provides a little perspective on her work (‘The seductive and blinkered belligerence of Wafa Sultan’, Los Angeles Times, June 25, 2006).

    Finally, with regards Australia, Japan and WWII:

    To the best of my knowledge, nobody disputes that there was violent conflict — war “opperations” (sic) — between the two countries. I certainly don’t. In relation to Tanaka Hiromi’s essay, you made two claims:

    1) “Australian’s [sic] fought to protect Australia from being Asianised.”

    2) “It just goes to show that multiculturalism is Australia’s greatest enemy.”

    As I stated, “The article by Tanaka Hiromi that you link to says literally nothing about the reasons Australian troops fought”; further, “nothing of what you’ve written demonstrates that “multiculturalism is Australia’s greatest enemy”.”

    This remains the case.

    Read Stanley’s paper.

    Why these stories persist, and why Australians believe, against all the evidence, that they faced an actual threat, present a profound conundrum. It seems that Australians want to believe that they faced an actual (rather than a potential) invasion. They almost want to believe that Australia faced this danger, a real rather than a remote threat. They prefer to justify Australia’s self-centred approach to the war from late 1941 by reference to a threat which did not exist, was known not to exist and which has been exaggerated. Perhaps just as Gallipoli fosters the idea that Australia was born as a nation on the cliffs of ANZAC Cove, so the invasion myth of 1942 testifies to the value of what was saved. But he wasn’t coming south: he was never coming south. John Curtin knew as much by the middle of 1942. His insistence that he was has skewed our understanding of the impact of the Japanese threat on Australian history. It is time that Australians stopped kidding themselves that their country faced an actual invasion threat and looked seriously at their role in the Allied war effort.

    “For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong.”

  6. mick rey says:

    The Koran:

    Sura 5:51 commands Muslims not to take Jews and Christians as friends.

    Sura 9:29 commands Muslims to fight against Jews and Christians until they either submit to Allah or else agree to pay a special tax.

    Sura 2:65-66 and Sura 5:60 contain references to Jews as “apes and swine to be despised and rejected.” (Think of that! You can be sure that such a statement did not come from the true God of this universe who selected the Jews to be His Chosen People.)

    The Koran also expresses an intolerant attitude toward any person who decides to reject the Islamic faith or convert to another religion. Such persons are to be executed (Sura 9:12). In the Hadith (the oral tradition of Muhammad’s sayings) it says “Whoever changes his religion, kill him” (Hadith 9:57). These commands are practiced in all Islamic Fundamentalist countries today.

    Fighting is prescribed for you, and [some of] you dislike it. But it is possible that you dislike a thing which is good for you, and that you love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knows, and you know not (Sura 2:216).

    Fight and slay the pagans wherever you find them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem of war (Sura 9:5).

    Fight in the way of Allah . . . and slay them [the unbelievers] wherever you find them and drive them out . . . and fight them until . . . religion is for Allah (Sura 2:190-193).

    …I could keep going.

    ===

    Victoria’s peak Muslim body, the Islamic Council of Victoria, has condemned the conviction of British school teacher Gillian Gibbons by the Sudanese courts over the naming of a teddy bear by her students.

    “The ruling is not only beyond reason, but has no Islamic basis whatsoever” says ICV president Ramzi Elsayed. “We find the whole situation extremely troubling and are very concerned for the safety and well-being of Ms Gibbons”.

    So… it was because the Sudanese wanted ‘White’ blood.

    Definately a racial issue!

    ===

    I’ve read [Stanley’s] paper, and I am sick of refuting this idiot!

    Yes, the threat wasn’t eminate, but it’s still a threat against Australia.

  7. Rob Ray says:

    Hi @ndy, my name’s Rob Ray, I’m an editor for Freedom, an anarchist newspaper published in London. We’ve just done a redesign for it and I thought it might be a good idea for our comment section to have a ‘best of the bunch’ pick for blogs. Grrregg on libcom reckoned you’re pretty clued up on the subject, and might be a good person to ask.

    Basically it’s as easy as anything in publishing gets, all that would be required would be to do your normal reading around on the subject, and then just pick the best comment piece you come across and email a link to it to me.

    Let me know what you think anyways!

    Regards,

    Rob.

  8. @ndy says:

    G’day Rob,

    Yeah, Freedom!

    (I’ll be in touch.)

    Cheers and beers.

  9. THR says:

    One of the concerning things I noticed on some rightist blogs was the tendency to dismiss the Hildebrand article as ‘hysteria’, as though the Terrorgraph was an organ of PC propaganda.

    The gap between the far-right and the fascist nutters seems to have eroded in recent years. The main differences, as far as I can see, are that the former tend to be supportive of Israel and Jews (except the ‘self-hating’ ones with the temerity to criticise Israeli Govt policy), and the latter are possibly a bit more nationalist/protectionist in terms of economic policy. These economic policies are uncongenial to the corporate elites, and this may partly explain why the nutters get less air-time than they otherwise might.

    In all other respects, both groups appear pretty similar, especially in the tendency to treat all followers of Islam as a ‘monolith’. When one points out the staggeringly obvious empirical fact that the Muslim down the road does not support terrorism/sharia law/global caliphate, etc, one hears the rejoinder that Muslims are very tricky like that, and are merely faking ‘assimilation’ for the time being, in service of the master plan. These clowns seem to forget that the thousands of Muslims in Melb and Syd do not correspond to their fearful stereotypes. Nor do the Muslims in Turkey, for instance, many of whom indulge in a bit of wine, or the Cham Muslim population of SE Asia, many of whom eat pork, or…

  10. @ndy says:

    Mick,

    We are rapidly approaching the End Times I think. Speaking of which, if you’re going to quote wacko Xtian fundamentalists from Texas, at least have the decency of sourcing your material. Thus it’s not you going on about the dangers of Islam, but a quack named David Reagan, ‘The Truth About Islam’ being an essay published in the January/February 2002 issue of Lamplighter. Reagan is attached to Lamb and Lion Ministeries, ‘Home of Christ in Prophecy’. Their basic message? “Jesus is Coming Soon! We are Living on Borrowed Time!” This mob believes “that the Bible is the inerrant Word of God; that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that Jesus is returning soon”.

    Briefly, and in response, like the Koran the Bible also contains all kindsa crazy shit which, if taken literally, mandates the commission of all kindsa crimes. For example:

    “Whoever curses father or mother shall be put to death.” Exodus 21:17 (also Leviticus 20:9)

    “Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day shall be put to death.” Exodus 31:15 (also 35:2)

    “One who blasphemes the name of the Lord shall be put to death.” Leviticus 24:16

    God forbids tattoos. Leviticus 19:28

    “…a person is justified not by the works of the law, but through faith in Jesus Christ.” Galatians 2:16

    “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.” Matthew 10:34; Luke 12:49-51

    “…there are many rebellious people, mere talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision group. They must be silenced… pay no attention to Jewish myths… both their minds and consciences are corrupted. They claim to know God, but by their actions they deny him. They are detestable, disobedient, and unfit for anything good.” Titus 1:10-16

    …I could keep going. (See Ken’s Guide to the Bible.)

    Goodbye.

  11. @ndy says:

    THR,

    Which rightist blogs are you talking about? I dunno, but I assume that such folk decry anything which distracts attention away from The Muslim Menace.

    As for the convergence of fascist thought with that of the far right… depends how you define such things I guess. Generally speaking, however, I think that, in the context of “The Clash of Civilisations” and “The War on Terror”, there is some pressure, especially on the right, to take an unequivocal stand for ‘us’ or against ‘us’; a form of rhetoric which is intended to reduce whatever differences of opinion may actually exist to a minimum, as we all presumably rally ’round the flag (or cross). Beyond that, ‘The Jewish Question’ continues to divide the far right. On Stormfront, for example — which is the world’s most popular site for white supremacist opinion — The Jew is Public Enemy #1. (And it’s for this reason that first Darrin Hodges (now of the ‘Anglo-Australian National Community Council’) and then Luke Connors (formerly of the ‘Patriotic Youth League’) eventually left the Forum.) On the other hand, as far as I’m aware, ‘The Jewish Question’ has served to divide the far right for some time…

    As to which tendency is in the ideological ascendancy, I’m not sure. Large elements of the Christian far right, for example, give a good deal of support to Zionism — if only because doing so is believed to bring Armageddon one step closer! While for others, there’s often a begrudging admiration for Israeli state policy and intransigence in the face of Palestinian resistance (the second intifada).

    In relation to economic policy, national socialist doctrine mandates a strong role for the state in economic affairs, and such a position is frequently contrasted with those of the architects of the New World Order. Hence frequently expressed opposition to ‘globalisation’. Saleam’s mob — and ‘White Nationalist’ opinion generally, in Australia at least — is strongly protectionist; the caveat being that the level of economic illiteracy among adherents is probably only equal to the levels of political ignorance, as those who display a grasp of basic political ideology are very few in number (although they certainly exist).

    On the national question, there has been some differentiation within the far right, especially in the post-WWII era, and following the collapse of Communism. Some, for example, have even gone so far as supporting — or at least giving lip-service to — national liberation movements in the Third World. In this context, one pressing question has been attitudes towards Empire. Some nationalists maintain a belief in the maintenance and extension of ‘the nation’ across existing borders; ‘the nation’ being a reasonably flexible concept, the priorities of which are largely determined by way of the concept of ‘race’. Others — including the ‘national anarchists’ — claim to be in some (but not all) ways more modest in terms of their political ambitions, and invoke the ‘nation’ as ‘organic’ political community…

    I guess what I’m trying to indicate is that, beneath the surface, and despite the enormous crudity of many of their political expressions, there is some degree of debate within the far right. A good guide to these debates is provided by Kevin Coogan’s Dreamer of the Day: Francis Parker Yockey and the Postwar Fascist International (New York: Autonomedia, 1999).

  12. THR says:

    Here‘s one rightist blog that attacked the Hildebrand article.

    These guys are far-right, and not exactly Rhodes scholars. They are vehemently pro-Zionist, and equally disdainful of Islam. There seem to be a great many blogs which hold almost identical positions on everything. Some are christian, some are (superficially, at least) secular.

    The anti-globalisation stance of (some of) the far right (such as Pauline Hanson) has led the slightly less extreme rightists to conclude that any opposition to free-markets/globalised capital is ‘fascist’, since for quite a few members of the lunar right fascism is defined exclusively as state intervention in economic matters.

  13. @ndy says:

    Whoever AWH is, they apparently find criticism of the Cronulla pogrom upsetting, maintaining that it was a ‘spontaneous’ outburst of righteous public anger over Lebanese Muslim violence. This tends to reinforce the idea that “such folk decry anything which distracts attention away from The Muslim Menace”.

    The references to memory holes are unfortunate, as in both cases — the ostensible reasons for the ‘riot’ and the use of text messages — the writer is wrong. The writer also largely ignores the context for the ‘riot’, and fails to note that, just as none of the people targeted for revenge attacks in the days following the ‘riot’, none of the dozens of those assaulted on the day of the ‘riot’ had anything to do with the crimes which allegedly triggered this response…

    (For what it’s worth, in addition to the report by the wsws, Four Corners had an interesting account of the whole affair.)

    As for the accuracy of the article itself, the relevant thread on Stormfront regarding a public rally at the Cenotaph on January 26 is titled ‘Location of Sydney Rally Update’. It’s also the case that Saleam’s mob is planning to hold an event at a club in the Sutherland Shire on the day, as well as to distribute propaganda at a public rally in Camden regarding the proposal to construct an Islamic school. Further, Rhys McLean was, until the publication of this article, the moderator of SFDU, and remains a teenaged Novocastrian. “The article itself is a mish-mash of half truths and wild allegations” would itself therefore seem to be an exaggerated criticism. (The commentary on the post is quite nutty. I find James Ozark’s statement that “As far as I’m concerned, the Anarchists have a lot more in common with [the far right] than the Nazis ever did” mind-boggling.)

    With regards (anti-)globalisation and the far right, a handful of the schmucks were at the S11 protests, but I don’t believe they had much impact. An earlier discussion on right and left convergences may be found in ‘Together with the New Right against globalisation?’, Eric Krebbers (De Fabel van de illegaal), October 1998.

    I’ll try and respond in more detail to your blogpost later.

  14. THR says:

    These AWH guys aren’t the brightest, and are not above labelling all views different to theirs as ‘fascist’.

    Your man Saleam seems to have gotten some air-time in today’s SMH

  15. @ndy says:

    Bloody hell. Some air time!

  16. mick rey says:

    [Goodbye.]

  17. @ndy says:

    I think Jim has problems assimilating…

    A reasonable assessment of Jim’s career to-date, with a few provisos.

    First, the article fails to note that Australia First recently (September 2007) underwent a three-way split; while the NSW branch remains in Jim’s hands, the rump under Diane Teasdale continues to eke out an existence in Victoria (and presumably elsewhere), while the newly-established Australian Protectionist Party comprises another faction with a leadership based in SA (while also having support in NSW). Adelaide, as it happens, is the only place where an AF candidate, Bruce Preece, has successfully contested an election.

    Secondly, the headquarters of National Action in Tempe — where Wayne Smith was shot to death in 1991 — remains the headquarters of Australia First, as well as being the sometime venue for the annual (since 2001) Sydney Forum. Along with the Inverell Forum, the Sydney Forum is the largest annual gathering of the far right in Australia.

    Thirdly, while Jim claims to have been busy “since September… signing up members for Australia First, preparatory to seeking federal re-registration as a political party”, in reality AF has been struggling to re-register since its de-registration (August 13, 2004). Further — despite opposition from the other faction laying claim to the title — for the purposes of local elections, the Party is in fact registered in NSW. Local registration is a more accurate assessment of the Party’s appeal as local laws require that the names and addresses of only 80 members be provided to authorities, whereas federal laws require 500.

    Fourthly, the article does not mention that, in relation to Jim’s conviction over the Eddie Funde incident, Jim claims to have been engaged in an attempt to overturn this since his release from jail in 1992 — a conviction which he claims was the result of an elaborate conspiracy against him. On a more general level, the article also fails to note that, in addition to “the rise of Pauline Hanson and One Nation in the late 1990s”, another factor which has helped Jim’s faction of Australia First attain whatever meagre popularity it has done within the far right has been the demise of his former arch-rival, Jack Van Tongeren‘s Australian Nationalists Movement.

    Finally, Brown does not mention one of the enduring controversies surrounding Jim, and that is his ethnic origin. Ironically, despite his many years devoted to white supremacy, Jim himself is variously reputed to be of either Lebanese or Syrian origin. Outside of these circles, such a fact would be insignificant, but within them it continues to dog Saleam’s attempts to consolidate support.

  18. Nihilodei says:

    Two things that interest me from the original article:

    1) there are people who actually discredit Rex Gilroy? I have found them few and far apart. I have found Rex’s unscientific and possibly racist claptrap distasteful for a number of years.

    2) the name McLean pops up again. There was a neo-Nazi band in the eighties that featured in The Daily Mirror (front page). Is this McLean kiddie related to one of them?

    cheers

  19. Darrin Hodges says:

    In relation to the Hildebrand articles in the Telegraph, they were obviously worded in a way to provoke a predictable response and therefore to justify the pejorative terms used by Hildebrand – in other words – Stormfronters were sucker-punched.

    http://www . stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php/joe-hildebrand-daily-telegraph-libels-450829.html

    The only reason AFP is registered for LGA election in NSW was that most of the membership was gained while still under control of Diane “Cake Eater” Teasdale. This is the closest Jim will ever get to having a legitimate electorally based party and a stab at winning the “four percent” lottery. It remains to be seen if Jim’s AFP will have sufficient membership to still qualify as a party by the end of August this year.

    His grasp of reality is a loose as ever, demonstrated by the fact that he will be putting himself up (again!) as a candidate in the Marrickville council elections to be held in September, despite the glorious press coverage he received from his last (futile) effort.

    The piece in today’s Herald could be hardly considered complimentary – it paints him as a type of right-wing terrorist and the description of being “self-employed” is absolute comedy gold.

  20. Glee says:

    I’ve just been watching the meltdown on SF. Ahhh, it’s sweet!

    But why do they persist in thinking Joe Hildebrand is Jewish? Just because he’s tall, dark and handsome doesn’t mean he’s Jewish. And his surname? Not a Jewish name, despite sounding Jewish. He’s not Jewish. Get that into your heads, schmucks on SF.

  21. @ndy says:

    They’re a sad mob really.

    First David Innes (Baron Von Hund) and his partner ‘Lilith’ Peterson (Lilith); now Rhys McLean (Australian Euro) and Nichola X. Before leaving — as she now has, apparently — Miss X complained that when she and Rhys visited the former moderators in Perth, “Lilith showed us possibly over a hundred pics of other WNs who had attended their BBQs, bagging most of them, particularly the skins and NS”.

    Over a hundred pics! That’s quite a lot eh?

    (jaxxen’s comment on the ideological complexion of SF is amusing: “Nazis and neo-Nazis probably make up less than 10% of the posters.” Just like your average suburban street really…)

    UDF worries that some kid called Dead Raven will hand over information to anti-racists (or “drug infested sodomite deviates” as he puts it). Paul Innes (Steelcap_Boot), reliable as ever, jumps to his brother David’s defence, claiming that ‘anyone’ could have been responsible for circulating the photos taken at the monthly SF BBQs that somehow ended up in the hands of those awful drug infested sodomite deviates, even claiming that one attendee was carrying a recording device.

    Talk about paranoid.

    WP90 reckons Dead Raven may be everyone’s favourite teenage Stalinist Peter Watson — which would be truly remarkable.

    As for Rhys himself, RadicalAngloZealot reckons “To be honest I don’t have much respect for someone who cuts and runs as soon as his anonymity in a relatively high profile position is blown. A strong man would stand [his ground] and be proud of who he is and what he believes in, and given he knew the antis had his name, this must have been expected”. sirino is even more savage in his appraisal, claiming that SFDU had gone to the dogs under Rhys’ care. Further, sirino reckons Nichola is a bit of a twat: “They [David and Lilith] took you into their home, and now you are lying about them? Cheeky. When I saw you I thought you were Australian Euro’s mother, then I noticed some leopard print kink, so go figure. Giggety. Your son was what, one or two years younger than AE? You are here only because of AE. No wonder his folks didn’t approve.” OZ_Granddragon — ‘Proud Member of the National Knights of the Ku Klux Klan’ — responds badly to sirino’s attack, urging the Yanqui moderators to “please flush this red turd”.

    Others complain that individuals on another site have unkind things to say about Rhys and his partner. “[P]robably mongerlized [sic] hippie uni students who think it[‘]s cool to act black[…] as I always say, If you go black don[‘]t come back, If you go brown turn it down, and If in doubt chuck it out!” responds the resident Klown.

    On the subject of a new moderator, there’s not a huge amount of enthusiasm. jaxxen declines, as does Dottir, (the Canadian) Frank White, Martin Fletcher and Aquila audax. Sam notes: “I would like to see an older, wiser person […] get the job but the way things are going it doesn’t look like anyone wants [it].”

    Poor old Aquila audax complains that Joe Hildebrand — a Jew and a “communist parasite” according to SouthWesterner — unfairly tarnishes Australia First and Stormfront as being ‘neo-Nazi’.

    Au contraire mon ami!

    Thus nafe reckons that people who think that “the Jew” is “the deadliest, if not the only, threat to our existence as a race”, and that this message should be forged “in titanium”, are all “normal people with jobs and lives”. melbournestorm also worries about the neo-Nazi presence on SF. “What to do?” he wails.

    Finally, as a consequence of the incompetence of the racists Down Under, the Yanqui Administrators are apparently considering junking SFDU altogether… which I think is a cue for the cows to line-up at the shed to be milked of more cash.

    Champagne comedy!

  22. mick rey says:

    Hey, @ndy, want me to reveal who I am on SF?

  23. Glee says:

    Champagne on the house! *hic*

    Seriously (and soberly), it’s better than renting a video on this event-less, boring Saturday night! And it’s free! Better than any old Hollywood blockbuster I could be watching instead!

  24. Soviet Left Faction says:

    Dear comrades,

    I would like to tell every one that a secret fare left organization will be dealing with the racist nazis. We will be handing out leaflets about the horrible state of Aboriginal living condidtions [sic].

    We support the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and the Marxist-Leninist line.

    We denounce Andy for being a ASIO spy and a agent for the anaRchist Fight Dem Back.

    From
    The Marxist.
    Socialist Alternative.

  25. @ndy says:

    G’day Peter!

  26. Soviet Left Faction says:

    Andy, will you stop thinking that any one who calls you a ASIO spy is Peter. Frankly, Peter is a person who knows what he is talking about unlike social fascists like your self.

  27. @ndy says:

    Thanks Peter. I’ll be sure to take that under advisement.

  28. Soviet Left Faction says:

    You didn’t listen to me. I think Fight Dem Back has some thing to do with this. Don’t make me call comrade Watson and get him to talk to you.

  29. Ana says:

    Invasion & genocide day all right, I cant wait to burn that Oztralian flag wipe and watch it go up in flames.

    Naku Noa
    na
    Ana

  30. Darrin Hodges says:

    @ ana – “Revolutionary Polynesian” // “Descendant of Te Roroa, Te Uri o Hau, Ngapuhi, Fale Ula & Vava’u.” // Occupied Australia

    So what are you doing in Australia living on “stolen” land?

  31. Ana says:

    Hey Darrin, I have permission from the First Nation Peoples to be here, and I am a Maori ally in their struggle against colonialism. What Indigenous peoples decide between each other has nothing to do with convict settlers and their Gubbament at all.

    Mauri Ora
    Ana

  32. Darrin Hodges says:

    I see, so it’s only “stolen” land if a white person is standing on it?

  33. Darrin Hodges says:

    “What Indigenous peoples decide between each other…”

    Does this include the indigenous people of Europe?

  34. THR says:

    Does this include the indigenous people of Europe?

    Who are they? The Gauls, Etruscans and Minoans?

  35. nihiodei says:

    Before 5000 years ago, before 2000 years ago?

    Not making light of any person’s plight… but to come over here and not be naturalised and start hawking on about some arrangement that would be in bad taste for all concerned is laughable.

    You can’t be indigenous here… no more than I can… mind you my lot did trample over some Neanderthals a long time ago… HEY SO DID YOURS ANA!!!

    Homo sapiens supplanted all extant forms of humans as they spread out into the world.

    It’s the way animals are designed: if the chance comes along, stomp over the little guys while you can.

    Thankfully this sort of behavior is becoming distasteful in this part of the world. If you really want to make an impression on your newly-adopted homeland, why don’t you do some work for charity or maybe even do archaeology and find out what the world was really like all those years ago?

  36. nihiodei says:

    Could I be mistaken that Ana is trying to gee the joint up? I hate to over-analyse but the intent appears the same as other posts, just screwed up a li’l so we might write something really base?

  37. Ana says:

    Farck you all you white supremacist pieces of shit and crawl back to the genocidal racist imperialist hole you come from, Haere Atu!!!!!

  38. Darrin Hodges says:

    So Ana does [this] mean you will not or cannot answer my question – “I see, so it’s only “stolen” land if a white person is standing on it?”

    THR, are you trying to imply that Europeans cannot be considered indigenous?

  39. nihiodei says:

    gee how did i get lumped into being a white supremacist?
    Go home and really bitch about the European trout and salmon fed into your streams. Let your government know how indigenous fish are being supplanted.

    yep, thats one you can legitimately carp over

  40. Ana says:

    Kiwi slain in Sydney victim of race attack
    5:00AM Sunday December 30, 2007
    By Cliff Taylor

    A Northland man who died after being bashed by a gang of youths in Sydney on Boxing Day is believed to be the victim of a racist attack.

    JimTautari, 50, was walking home from a fast food restaurant when he was attacked by a gang of up to 10 teenagers, who beat him with baseball bats and golf clubs.

    “It was definitely racist,” said Tautari’s mother Janie Henare in Moerewa.

    She said a witness told family in Sydney that Tautari had been racially abused in a McDonald’s restaurant before the attack. Henare said “10white boys” had beaten her son. He died in hospital the next day.

    A woman in the St Clair area of Sydney, who gave her name as Rita, told the Daily Telegraph she heard Tautari’s body slam against an awning over her front window.

    She found him covered in blood, with wounds exposing his skull. She asked him whether he knew his attackers, and he said he didn’t.

    “He said that they called him ‘a f***ing black c***’. He turned around and they just started clobbering him,” she said.

    “This is happening too much to our people over there,” said Henare. “He was not a violent person.

    “He didn’t deserve that. I never want to go back to Australia again.”

    Moerewais in mourning for the second time in three months, after the violent death of another of its sons in Sydney. In September Shane Hau, 42, was killed in an alleged hit and run.

    The Hau case caused a trans tasman row when authorities refused to release his body intact for a traditional Maori burial.

    His family were told Hau’s brain had been removed for tests and could notbe immediately returned along with the rest of his body.

    The delay provoked anger and sadness in Moerewa.

    Meanwhile, Henare said her family was waiting for news on the police investigation. Henare said Tautari was the father of four children, the youngest seven years old.

    “He had so many friends. He had a band and he was doing karaoke over there. He’s always been a singer,” said Henare.

    “He was a great fan of Elvis. He was a very mellow person. He wouldn’t hurt a fly.”

    She said her son had been in Australia for five years.

    “He was ready to come home. I said to him, ‘You need to come home.’ But there’s no money over here,” she said.

    “He was sick, he wasn’t well. Jim had his home back here. He said he would be going home soon.”

    This story was found at:
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/topic/story.cfm?c_id=252&objectid=10484723

  41. Darrin Hodges says:

    Ana, Is it only stolen land when a white person is standing on it?

  42. nihiodei says:

    That’s a tragic story. There is no excusing that sort of crime and there is no excusing the mentality or beliefs the criminals indulged themselves when the crime was committed. I personally hope they throw the book at these people and lock them up for life.

    I, however, do not use any such excuse to label an entire race or nation of conducting the same such behavior. I really hope you aren’t using a similar excuse to be anti-Australian.

  43. Darrin Hodges says:

    Yes, that is very clever and mature Andy, inserting url‘s that were not in the original submission.

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