{"id":38346,"date":"2015-06-09T17:42:17","date_gmt":"2015-06-09T07:42:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/slackbastard.anarchobase.com\/?p=38346"},"modified":"2018-09-19T12:53:46","modified_gmt":"2018-09-19T02:53:46","slug":"some-notes-on-anarchism-anti-fascism","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/slackbastard.anarchobase.com\/?p=38346","title":{"rendered":"Some notes on anarchism + anti-fascism"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/slackbastard.anarchobase.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/06\/pigeon.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/slackbastard.anarchobase.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/06\/pigeon.png\" alt=\"pigeon\" width=\"500\" height=\"332\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-38348\" srcset=\"https:\/\/slackbastard.anarchobase.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/06\/pigeon.png 500w, https:\/\/slackbastard.anarchobase.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/06\/pigeon-300x199.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Prompted by the appearance of the above image on my Facebook page, someone wrote some comments which I thought it was worthwhile republishing here:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>There[\u2018]s a difference between leaders and led. Some of those caught up in nationalist organisations and discourse are poor low skilled and low educated working class people that have been hit hard by globalisation. [Rhetoric] such as this is classist. These are people the Left should try and reach out to, to educate etc not ridicule. If [R]omper [S]tomper fascism is lifestylist fascism then punch ons with fascists in the streets is lifestylist anarchism. How about I see a post from you about poverty, inequality, unemployment, public housing etc. Furthermore your triumphalism only provokes violent thugs and helps fuel a street war. Think about that when we hear &#8230; that someone is in hospital or worse stabbed to death.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>[I wrote the following in response:]<\/p>\n<p>1) Yes, there&#8217;s leaders + followers. Yes, some of these followers are &#8216;uneducated&#8217; +\/or &#8216;unschooled&#8217;. Certainly, the periodic remarks rubbishing academics, students + institutions of higher learning which appear on pages like [<a href=\"http:\/\/slackbastard.anarchobase.com\/?p=37449\" target=\"_blank\">The Great Aussie Patriot<\/a>&#8216;s] suggest a deep suspicion + resentment of &#8216;education&#8217;.<\/p>\n<p>2) I&#8217;m not convinced that what is going on is simply a matter of unskilled or low-skilled workers somehow being &#8216;caught up&#8217; in &#8216;nationalist organisations&#8217;, nor that &#8216;globalisation&#8217; is to blame. Rather, what is being responded to is what is perceived to be an attack upon &#8216;Australia&#8217;, in which Muslims + leftists are understood to be the chief culprits.<\/p>\n<p>3) I think you may be reading too much into the image. I posted it partly in response to an earlier conversation on my now-deleted page with some bloke who insisted that I was a supporter of the Islamic State. Obviously, he offered zero evidence to support this claim + when I pointed out that I&#8217;d actually written an article for New Matilda [<a href=\"https:\/\/newmatilda.com\/2014\/10\/21\/defence-anarchism-tearing-down-links-butchers-isil\" target=\"_blank\">October 21, 2014<\/a>] on the subject denouncing IS he elected to ignore it. I came to the conclusion that the bloke was indeed an idiot.<\/p>\n<p>4) I find the image amusing + indicative of many occasions when I&#8217;ve foolishly bothered to engage in a discussion with an idiot.<\/p>\n<p>5) Education is a two-way process, ie, it requires a desire to learn in order for someone to be educated. Arguing with idiots is a waste of time.<\/p>\n<p>6) This page has been live for about a week now. My previous page was deleted by Facebook following a campaign of mass reporting by local members of the radical right. This previous page was est in <a href=\"http:\/\/slackbastard.anarchobase.com\/?p=14025\" target=\"_blank\">2010<\/a> and carried numerous materials &#8216;about poverty, inequality, unemployment, public housing etc.&#8217; + so too does my blog.<\/p>\n<p>7) If you wish to engage in a discussion on The GAP&#8217;s page inre these or any other matters you believe are important you&#8217;re free to do so. I would guess that the results will be minimal + sooner rather than later you will be denounced as a leftist + a traitor. By the same token, you&#8217;re free to publish a blog +\/or a Facebook page in which you delineate your views.<\/p>\n<p>8) There&#8217;s a difference b\/w fascism + anti-fascism. I think that, as well as arguing for grounds on which to reject the collapse of each into some variation of &#8216;extremism&#8217; (in your terms, &#8216;lifestylist fascism&#8217; versus &#8216;lifestylist anarchism&#8217;), Liz Fekete outlines some of the key differences well in her essay <a href=\"http:\/\/www.irr.org.uk\/news\/anti-extremism-or-anti-fascism\/\" target=\"_blank\">&#8216;Anti-extremism or anti-fascism?&#8217;<\/a> [<em>Race + Class<\/em>, Vol.55, No.4 (April\u2013June 2014)].<\/p>\n<p>9) You write: &#8220;Furthermore your triumphalism only provokes violent thugs and helps fuel a street war. Think about that when we hear &#8230; that someone is in hospital or worse stabbed to death.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m not sure I understand this point or how it relates to the pigeon image: feel free to elaborate. In any case, I have heard of people that have ended up in hospital as a result of a racial attack. One in particular is Vietnamese student Minh Duong. In 2012 in Ascot Vale he was beaten almost to death by a group calling themselves the <a href=\"http:\/\/slackbastard.anarchobase.com\/?p=33233\" target=\"_blank\">&#8216;Crazy White Boys&#8217;<\/a>. These &#8216;Boys&#8217; were drawn from precisely the same milieu as <a href=\"http:\/\/slackbastard.anarchobase.com\/?tag=neil-erikson\" target=\"_blank\">Neil Erikson<\/a>, who was mates with the &#8216;Boys&#8217;, is himself <a href=\"http:\/\/slackbastard.anarchobase.com\/?p=35596\" target=\"_blank\">convicted of harassing a local rabbi<\/a>, + is now part of the leadership of the UPF.<\/p>\n<p>[Note that Minh Duong&#8217;s story has a relatively happy ending. <em>See<\/em> : <a href=\"http:\/\/www.meldmagazine.com.au\/2014\/03\/minh-duong-return-australia\/\" target=\"_blank\">Minh Duong\u2019s happy return to Australia<\/a>, Diane Leow, meld magazine, March 4, 2014. In any case, this is the reply I received:]<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I will respond by first considering your last point. Notice I expressly did refer to fascists as being violent thugs this I do not deny. That being the case why provoke them with cheap triumphal memes surely a predictable consequence of this is a violent act, in which case you would have a degree of moral culpability. My response to the pigeon image was not to the image but the repeated tone of your posts, as you surely well know, which make light of the intelligence of Reclaim Australia attendees. Some of these doubtless come from the growing underclass of neoliberal society. When you insult them by association you insult the growing &#8220;bogan&#8221; underclass which is an interesting thing for a left winger to do. In so far as reasoning on Facebook goes you do not understand my point. My point is the Left needs to get out of Richmond and St Kilda [Town Hall] and go to Struggle Street in the suburbs and mix it with the white underclass for example through teach ins on globalisation and racism in Melton. That&#8217;s hard. Punching a small group of fascists is easy and is a black bloc style &#8220;feel good&#8221; action that achieves little by way of altering opinions in working class [communities]. The street war we now have began when the Reclaim Australia rally was forcefully blocked. Nobody has the right to set the bounds of permissible discourse in society through the use of force. Bakunin correctly stated that freedom of speech is absolute and forceful blocking of peaceful rallies, no matter how vile the views, is contrary to free speech and in my view contrary to anarchist ideas. [Additionally], the spectacle of street battles beamed to the living rooms is used by the ruling class to discredit the left. The fascists [didn&#8217;t] achieve their objectives at Richmond Town Hall but the ruling class did a victory granted them by you. And that means those at the margins of society are the ultimate losers out of this. Occupy Wall Street translated anarchist ideas to the broader public. What you are doing is enabling the ruling class to tar anarchism with a violent brush. Continue like this and anarchism will remain ensconced in its little ghetto of little feel good actions that do little to make the world a better place.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In response:<\/p>\n<p>1) Yes, you wrote that there were two species of \u2018thug\u2019 present on May 31: <em><a href=\"http:\/\/andrewzammit.org\/2013\/05\/19\/romper-stomper-revisited\/\" target=\"_blank\">Romper Stomper<\/a><\/em> or lifestylist fascists on the one hand and lifestylist anarchists on the other. I thought that your point was to draw a political equivalency between the two, ie, both groups embody a common political reference point: something called \u2018lifestylism\u2019. (Naturally, I\u2019m aware of the debates within anarchist circles inre \u2018lifestylism\u2019.) FWIW, I don\u2019t think that this is an accurate account of what happened on May 31 or the forces involved.<\/p>\n<p>2) With regards \u2018provocation\u2019, it\u2019s certainly true that I promoted the counter-rally (as I did the Socialist Party forum) however I don\u2019t regard attendance at the counter-rally as a provocation. Admittedly, the &#8216;United Patriots Front&#8217; (UPF) may well have preferred it if nobody showed up to rally against them \u2013 and on that basis opposition could be construed as \u2018provocation\u2019. That said, it could just as easily be argued, I think, that the UPF rally was itself a provocation: the basic line which the UPF advanced was that the presence of a socialist (Steve Jolly) on council required public denunciation by \u2018patriots\u2019. In other words, Jolly was tried and found guilty by the UPF of the crime of being a socialist &#8212; an \u2018un-Australian traitor\u2019, in their terms &#8212; and his sentence was to be subject of a rally denouncing him for said crime. Beyond this, I don&#8217;t agree that documenting the activities of the far right or occasionally castigating some individuals for their stoopid explains or justifies the frequently <a href=\"http:\/\/slackbastard.anarchobase.com\/?p=37847\" target=\"_blank\">crazed responses<\/a> I&#8217;ve received, any more than I believe that a Muslim woman wearing a headscarf in public deserves to be racially abused or another woman wearing a short skirt deserves to be sexually harassed &#8212; &#8216;provocation&#8217; is a slippery slope to go down.<\/p>\n<p>I could be wrong but what you seem to be suggesting is that Reclaim Australia (RA), the UPF and other, aligned \u2018nationalist\u2019 movements and ideologies are best ignored by anarchists and the left, who should instead be devoting their energies to \u2013 for example \u2013 organising workshops on the relationship between globalisation and racism for the benefit of the residents of Melton. In this context, I\u2019d like to quote David Greason (<em>I was a teenage fascist<\/em>):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Since the early 1970s, the Australian left had been more gauche than sinister, despite what groups like People Against Communism said. That was the appeal of the far-right, I guess: groups like the League and the Nazis were either nutty or offensive, both of which amused me no end; or it spoke such unambiguous commonsense (like the British NF or the Alliance) that you couldn\u2019t help but identify with it. Well, at least I couldn\u2019t. Most of the left, on the other hand, was dull and earnest and out of touch. You just had to read the left\u2019s papers or, even better, look at the miserable faces of the people selling them. How they ever recruited was beyond me. I certainly didn\u2019t fancy spending my Saturday afternoons in draughty meeting rooms discussing <a href=\"https:\/\/www.marxists.org\/archive\/marx\/works\/1863\/theories-surplus-value\/preface.htm\" target=\"_blank\">Marx\u2019s Theory of Surplus Value<\/a>. If I\u2019d wanted to learn that sort of thing I\u2019d have paid attention in fourth form economics classes.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>To put it another way, the appeal of RA, UPF and allied groups is not their economic vision \u2013 they have none \u2013 but rather a crude form of Islamophobia. This is not an intellectual exercise but a gut-level revulsion, Muslims being understood as being essentially either terrorists or terrorists-in-waiting, and Islam an evil doctrine worthy only of eradication. In this view, mosques play the role of centres of indoctrination in subversion and terrorism and halal certification is a dastardly plot which aims at both accruing finance to sponsor terrorist actions and operates as a means of cultural subversion, acclimatising Australians to the presence of evil in their midst. The parallels that may be drawn between Islamophobia and anti-Semitism in this context are obvious and have been remarked upon, most recently by <a href=\"http:\/\/slackbastard.anarchobase.com\/?p=38105\" target=\"_blank\">Guy Rundle<\/a>. I think that, with some reservations, these comparisons are apt and it\u2019s a useful exercise to compare contemporary Islamophobia with historical anti-Semitism.<\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t believe that Islamophobia is best responded to by classes in economics; at the same time, I obviously support any educational initiatives which aim to demystify capitalist economics and to promote an understanding of the ways in which racism informs capitalist development, especially in the context of a colonial settler-state (Australia). I also don\u2019t believe that promoting or engaging in anti-fascist counter-actions such as the mobilisations of <a href=\"http:\/\/slackbastard.anarchobase.com\/?p=37955\" target=\"_blank\">April 4<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/slackbastard.anarchobase.com\/?p=38216\" target=\"_blank\">May 31, 2015<\/a> \u2013 or indeed <a href=\"http:\/\/slackbastard.anarchobase.com\/?p=15850\" target=\"_blank\">April 9, 2010<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/slackbastard.anarchobase.com\/?p=25302\" target=\"_blank\">May 15, 2011<\/a> \u2013 in any way precludes the organisation of popular courses in self-education: the <a href=\"http:\/\/melbournefreeuniversity.org\/\" target=\"_blank\">Melbourne Free University<\/a> is one example of this, one which I support.<\/p>\n<p>3) In terms of writing on subjects like poverty and unemployment, in the last year I&#8217;ve conducted radio interviews with members of the <a href=\"http:\/\/slackbastard.anarchobase.com\/?p=37018\" target=\"_blank\">Australian Unemployment Union<\/a> and Dole Action Group, promoted these organisations and their events, and also invoked the memory of the <a href=\"http:\/\/slackbastard.anarchobase.com\/?p=9908\" target=\"_blank\">Dole Army<\/a>. In order to better understand the neoliberal assault on working conditions I\u2019ve republished articles by <a href=\"http:\/\/slackbastard.anarchobase.com\/?p=13790\" target=\"_blank\">Verity Archer<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/slackbastard.anarchobase.com\/?p=34890\" target=\"_blank\">Boris Frankel<\/a>. I\u2019m generally supportive of and try to help draw attention to the struggles of workers and unions, most recently inre the <a href=\"http:\/\/slackbastard.anarchobase.com\/?tag=international-flavours-fragrances\" target=\"_blank\">IFF<\/a> dispute in Dandenong (early 2015) but prior to this the <a href=\"http:\/\/slackbastard.anarchobase.com\/?tag=dominos-pizza\" target=\"_blank\">Domino\u2019s Pizza<\/a> dispute (late 2012), a dispute at the <a href=\"http:\/\/slackbastard.anarchobase.com\/?tag=tenants-union-of-victoria\" target=\"_blank\">Tenants Union<\/a> (early 2012), the <a href=\"http:\/\/slackbastard.anarchobase.com\/?tag=baiada-poultry\" target=\"_blank\">Baiada<\/a> dispute in late 2011, the work of the Workers Solidarity Network and <a href=\"http:\/\/slackbastard.anarchobase.com\/?s=%22Union+Solidarity%22\" target=\"_blank\">Union Solidarity<\/a> in general. I\u2019ve paid critical attention to the failings of the AWU, <a href=\"http:\/\/slackbastard.anarchobase.com\/?p=10902\" target=\"_blank\">SDA<\/a>, other right-wing unions and the ALP, as well as the nexus between the state and corporate sector as it operates in the charity and prison industries.<\/p>\n<p>4) Re Bakunin, anarchism and anti-fascism: I identify as an anarchist. I began writing about the far right on my blog about a decade ago (though my interest long predates this). I established my first (since deleted) Facebook page in 2010. In the last few years, my writings on the far right have also appeared on the <a href=\"https:\/\/newmatilda.com\/category\/tags\/andy-fleming\" target=\"_blank\">New Matilda<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/overland.org.au\/author\/andy-fleming\/\" target=\"_blank\">Overland<\/a> websites and my work has been reported on by <em><a href=\"http:\/\/slackbastard.anarchobase.com\/?p=36013\" target=\"_blank\">The Saturday Paper<\/a><\/em>, <a href=\"http:\/\/slackbastard.anarchobase.com\/?p=36142\" target=\"_blank\">VICE<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/slackbastard.anarchobase.com\/?p=37421\" target=\"_blank\">The 7.30 Report<\/a>. When I\u2019m asked by researchers and students about where my interest in anti-\/fascism proceeds from, I invariably locate it within the context of my commitment to anarchism. (<em>See also<\/em> : <a href=\"http:\/\/slackbastard.anarchobase.com\/?p=1853\" target=\"_blank\">Anarchism, Australia, Bob James<\/a>, May 7, 2009; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.politicalresearch.org\/2014\/02\/23\/the-right-hand-of-occupy-wall-street-from-libertarians-to-nazis-the-fact-and-fiction-of-right-wing-involvement\" target=\"_blank\">The Right Hand of Occupy Wall Street: From Libertarians to Nazis, the Fact and Fiction of Right-Wing Involvement<\/a>, Spencer Sunshine, PRA.org, February 23, 2014.)<\/p>\n<p>One of the main difficulties in discussing Bakunin\u2019s ideas in the context of anti-\/fascism is historical: Bakunin lived prior to the emergence of fascism as an ideology and movement. I would therefore suggest that a more productive discussion would examine not only how anarchists responded to fascism in the context of Fascist Italy, Nazi Germany and Francoist Spain but twentieth century Australia. Indeed, I\u2019ve made reference to this history on a number of occasions on my blog, in the context of Melbourne in the <a href=\"http:\/\/slackbastard.anarchobase.com\/?p=623\" target=\"_blank\">1990s<\/a> and 1930s and more generally. (<em>See<\/em> : <a href=\"http:\/\/www.takver.com\/history\/italian.htm\" target=\"_blank\">The Proletarian migrants: Fascism and Italian Anarchists in Australia<\/a>, Gianfranco Cresciani, <em>The Australian Quarterly<\/em>, March, 1979.) I would argue that anarchists did not respond to fascism then as you suggest anarchists do now. On the contrary, militant opposition to fascism was a hallmark of anarchist practice and it\u2019s this tendency that I identify with, informed both by an historical reading and a political understanding of the relationship between the two ideologies and movements. In 1936, Durruti summarised this as follows: \u201cThere are only two roads, victory for the working class, freedom, or victory for the fascists which means tyranny. Both combatants know what&#8217;s in store for the loser.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Finally, a few brief points:<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 In the context of <a href=\"http:\/\/slackbastard.anarchobase.com\/?p=114\" target=\"_blank\">\u2018free speech\u2019<\/a>, I think it&#8217;s worthwhile making a distinction between the lawful capacity of the state to punish &#8216;bad&#8217; speech and the capacity of fascist political formations to take to the streets unchallenged. From a libertarian perspective, I think the former is a matter of concern while opposing the latter is a form of justifiable and collective self-defence.<br \/>\n\u2022 I don&#8217;t agree that a &#8216;street war&#8217; began on April 4. Rather, I believe that the undercurrent of racism, xenophobia and Islamophobia which has characterised the preceding period in Australian politics has begun, after a few false starts, to emerge as a semi-popular, extra-parliamentary force, one which is driven by convinced fascists on the one hand and Christian fundamentalists on the other. I think that&#8217;s a worrying trend and worth opposing, up to and including by means of counter-mobilisations.<br \/>\n\u2022 I agree that the mass media is a powerful tool in shaping popular consciousness. I don&#8217;t agree that the ruling class obtained a victory on May 31, that this victory was &#8216;granted to the ruling class&#8217; by me or that what I&#8217;m doing is &#8216;enabling the ruling class to tar anarchism with a violent brush&#8217;.<\/p>\n<p>But maybe that&#8217;s another story &#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Prompted by the appearance of the above image on my Facebook page, someone wrote some comments which I thought it was worthwhile republishing here: There[\u2018]s a difference between leaders and led. 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