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news dot com dot au got worry that a \u2018Nightmare scenario\u2019 would see \u2018Trump street gangs\u2019 fight back after US election result<\/a> (Rohan Smith, November 2, 2020); which — with the God Emperor’s blessing — is ah, certainly a possibility. But anyway, my attention was drawn to the following passage:<\/p>\n

Eleanore Wells, a black woman who appeared on Q&A in September and compared the US President to Adolf Hitler, told the panel: \u201cI\u2019m not the first person, even if I had compared him to Hitler. You\u2019ve seen there are dozens of articles.\u201d<\/p>\n

But Salvatore Babones, a political sociologist from the University of Sydney rejected the comparison.<\/p>\n

\u201cI did watch the show you were on last time and while I respect the sincerity of your feelings, you talked about the potential for a new rise of fascism in America and Trump as the new Hitler and whenever I hear that kind of rhetoric, forgive me, I just tend to roll my eyes at the ahistorical nature of it.<\/p>\n

\u201cWhen Mussolini in Italy seized power he marched on Rome and laid out a book on fascism, laying out his plan. When Hitler took power, he was unsuccessful and went to jail and wrote a book called Mein Kampf<\/em>, laying out his history. But we don\u2019t have that in America.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

I missed that episode of The Bad Show (September 21, 2020), but computer says<\/a>:<\/p>\n

ELEANORE WELLS
\nMy question for the panel is, regardless of whether Trump wins or not, has he shown a much smarter autocrat how it\u2019s done? Like, could we have another Hitler or some other horrendous… It doesn\u2019t seem far-fetched to me. I\u2019m worried…<\/p>\n

HAMISH MACDONALD
\nThat\u2019s a pretty extreme comparison to draw.<\/p>\n

ELEANORE WELLS
\nIs it?<\/p>\n

HAMISH MACDONALD
\nWell, Hitler…<\/p>\n

ELEANORE WELLS
\nIs it?<\/p>\n

HAMISH MACDONALD
\nHitler was responsible for the death of six million Jews.<\/p>\n

ELEANORE WELLS
\nIs it extreme? I don\u2019t think it\u2019s extreme because…<\/p>\n

HAMISH MACDONALD
\nTrump hasn\u2019t done anything like that.<\/p>\n

ELEANORE WELLS
\nHitler didn\u2019t start out this big. It was a small thing and it grew. So just… Let me finish. So, he… We don\u2019t know at what point in the trajectory it is. But it doesn\u2019t sound far-fetched to me at all.<\/p>\n

HAMISH MACDONALD
\nOK. Cole?<\/p>\n

COLE BROWN
\nYeah, I actually… I totally agree. I mean, you know, Hitler obviously has been mentioned as a major and extreme example. But the sort of descent into fascism, the descent into chaos is a gradual one. And in the history of empires, America is not that old. So, I think that this understanding, this sort of belief that the music will keep playing forever and we\u2019ll stay… That\u2019s just not true. I think democracies ultimately decline when they\u2019re not tended to. And…and…what\u2019s happening right now, you\u2019re seeing sort of day in and day out as precedent is violated, Donald Trump sort of dismantling that democracy.<\/p>\n

HAMISH MACDONALD
\nBarbara, Trump as an autocrat \u2013 do you buy that characterisation?<\/p>\n

BARBARA HEINEBACK
\nNo. Let\u2019s look at a couple of things. I too am an American, love America, always vote. I… There are few things that I get excited about as much as my vote. But America started on what I think of as the three big Cs \u2013 Christianity, the US Constitution and also… What\u2019s the third one? Christianity, US Constitution…<\/p>\n

HAMISH MACDONALD
\nYou really need to remember the third one, Barbara, you\u2019re on live television.<\/p>\n

BARBARA HEINEBACK
\n…and also capitalism. I sound like Mitt Romney now, right? I\u2019m going to get rid of these two. And the other is, you know, also the…capitalism. But even though I\u2019m an independent, and I have been for many, many years, most of the time, I voted with the Democrats. But I feel like what the Democrat Party was many years ago, I didn\u2019t leave those ideals and ideologies, I feel like the Democratic Party has left me. Why do we have so much black-on-black crime in these cities that Obama wouldn\u2019t talk about? We had a Democratic convention just a couple of weeks ago. From May 25th, Black Lives Matter \u2013 that\u2019s when George Floyd was killed and held down for 8.5 minutes \u2013 he was killed, and from May 25th, right through the Democratic Convention, not one word. That was in August, the third week in August, just a couple of weeks ago. Not one mention of the demonstrations, and all of the terror that it has caused in so many cities, was mentioned at all. And depending on what station you watch, you didn\u2019t see a lot of the violence on CNN and other stations. You look at a few channels, and if you look around…<\/p>\n

COLE BROWN
\nNo.<\/p>\n

BARBARA HEINEBACK
\n…you could see where there were killings and thugs and all.<\/p>\n

HAMISH MACDONALD
\nI\u2019m just going to bring Kylie in here…<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

So yeah. As for Salvatore Babones, I confess to not having examined his scholarship on Trump, Hitler or Nazi Germany, but was delighted to discover that Polity<\/a>, ‘The home of independent thinking’, has indeed published The New Authoritarianism, Trump, Populism, and the Tyranny of Experts<\/em>. This weighty tome has its own, dedicated website<\/a> and it’s been endorsed by Milo Yiannopoulos fan Janet Albrechtsen, David ‘God Save The Queen’ Flint and Some Guy writing for Quadrant<\/em>.<\/p>\n

Still, I admit to being perplexed by the notion that: a) ‘when Mussolini in Italy seized power he marched on Rome and laid out a book on fascism, laying out his plan’ and; b) ‘When Hitler took power, he was unsuccessful and went to jail and wrote a book called Mein Kampf<\/em>, laying out his history’. Thus:<\/p>\n

What was the book Benito ‘laid out’ (and how?) in October 1922? Assuming somesuch book exists, what does it mean for the claim, made by a number of historians, that Mussolini actually failed or refused to impose a rigid orthodoxy on his movement? Further, that there were, in fact, a number of leading Fascist ideologues propounding various theories as to its essential qualities?<\/p>\n

As for the Austrian painter, as far as I’m aware, Hitler and the Nazis assumed power in 1933, not 1924<\/a>, and it was in 1924, not 1933, that he wrote a li’l book about his ‘history’ — and er, political vision.<\/p>\n

As for the God Emperor, it’s true that El Presidente had someone ghostwrite<\/a> The Art of the Deal<\/em>, and on that basis alone it hardly constituted much of a struggle for the very stable genius to compose. By the same token, while his New York Times<\/em> bestseller doesn’t really constitute a political manifesto, I’m not sure a fascist demagogue requires such a text in order to qualify as one.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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