{"id":7958,"date":"2010-03-02T15:38:17","date_gmt":"2010-03-02T05:38:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/slackbastard.anarchobase.com\/?p=7958"},"modified":"2010-03-04T11:58:57","modified_gmt":"2010-03-04T01:58:57","slug":"angry-anderson-no-violence","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/slackbastard.anarchobase.com\/?p=7958","title":{"rendered":"Angry Anderson : No violence?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Update<\/strong> : <em>see\/hear also<\/em> : <a href=\"http:\/\/www.abc.net.au\/worldtoday\/content\/2010\/s2833092.htm?site=brisbane\">Angry Anderson&#8217;s opinions on youth violence<\/a>, Shane McLeod, <em>The World Today<\/em> (ABC), March 1, 2010. The report contains no reference to Angry&#8217;s observations about culture and violence | (March 4, 2010): <a href=\"http:\/\/www.aic.gov.au\/crime_community\/demographicgroup\/ethnicmulticultral.aspx\">Ethnic groups and crime<\/a>, Australian Institute of Criminology.<\/p>\n<p><object width=\"340\" height=\"285\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/kQpKoWsKGr8&#038;hl=en_GB&#038;fs=1&#038;rel=0&#038;color1=0xcc2550&#038;color2=0xe87a9f&#038;border=1\"><\/param><param name=\"allowFullScreen\" value=\"true\"><\/param><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"always\"><\/param><\/object><\/p>\n<p><strong>March 2010<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>In September last year I began to write a post about Angry Anderson and his <strike>jihad<\/strike> <strike>crusade<\/strike> campaign against <strike>violence<\/strike> <strike>gang violence<\/strike> the use of weapons by violent gangs.<\/p>\n<p>Or something.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, today news.com.au reports that Angry, speaking before a Senate Committee enquiring into yoof and violence, is angry about the impact foreign cultures have had on street violence, <em>viz<\/em>, the introduction of weapons into fights where previously fists were considered sufficient.<\/p>\n<p>Y&#8217;know. Marquess of Queensberry and all that.<\/p>\n<p>Fairfax, on the other hand (and by way of AAP), has chosen to report Angry&#8217;s contention that <em>The Young Need Discipline<\/em>, especially at skool. Precisely what Angry said to the Committee has not been published (at least not to my knowledge), but news has titled his contribution <em>Angry Anderson blames &#8216;other cultures&#8217; for corrupting good old Aussie violence<\/em> &#8212; the &#8216;other cultures&#8217; nominated as being Lebanese, Indochinese and Pacific Islander.<\/p>\n<p><em>See<\/em> : <a href=\"http:\/\/www.aph.gov.au\/house\/committee\/fchy\/\">Standing Committee on Family, Community, Housing and Youth<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/stepbackthink.org\/\">Step Back Think<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>September 2009<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Huh. That&#8217;s odd. An article in today&#8217;s edition of <em>The Age<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.theage.com.au\/national\/streetwise-trio-calls-for-action-on-attacks-20090918-fvf4.html\">(Streetwise trio calls for action on attacks<\/a>, Andra Jackson, September 19, 2009) describes how three men &#8212; rock singer Angry Anderson, youth worker Les Twentyman and Father Bob Maguire &#8212; have &#8216;announced a national campaign against what Mr Twentyman called &#8221;a serious problem about carrying weapons, and about gangs&#8221;&#8217;.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Mr Anderson said: &#8221;Have we gone crazy? Have we lost the plot?&#8221; There were racial and cultural issues behind the violence that had to be faced honestly. &#8221;These things can be changed \u2026 you can break the chain of events,&#8221; he said. The national campaign&#8217;s message is: &#8221;It is not manly, it is not Aussie and it is not us.&#8221; &#8221;In my day, if you knocked a person down, that was it,&#8221; Mr Anderson said. &#8221;People fought with fists, but did not &#8216;put in the boot&#8217;.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Angry Anderson features on the new album, <em>same<\/em>, by Sydney band <a href=\"http:\/\/www.myspace.com\/thugjustice\">T.H.U.G.<\/a>, lending vocals to the track &#8216;Gunnin&#8217; 4 U&#8217;:<\/p>\n<ul>I got a gun in my pocket<br \/>\nA razor in my boot<br \/>\nJust been let out the nick<br \/>\nNow I&#8217;m on the loose<br \/>\nMakin&#8217; up for time in stir<br \/>\nSettle a few old scores<br \/>\nGet a few [drugs?] on the boil<br \/>\nThen we&#8217;ll break some laws<\/p>\n<p>[Chorus:]<br \/>\nI&#8217;m out now<br \/>\nAnd I&#8217;m looking for you<br \/>\nWatch your back boy<br \/>\nI&#8217;m gunnin&#8217; for you<\/p>\n<p>Not long ago<br \/>\nThis city was mine<br \/>\n&#8216;Til you turned dog on me<br \/>\nPut me back inside<br \/>\nBut now I&#8217;m out again<br \/>\nI&#8217;m lookin&#8217; for you<br \/>\nWhen I&#8217;m knockin&#8217; on your door<br \/>\nWhat you gonna do<\/p>\n<p>[Chorus]<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s been [?] thirty years<br \/>\nThat you stabbed me in the back<br \/>\nThat&#8217;s the day you cut out my heart<br \/>\nNow I want it back<br \/>\nFought our way to the top<br \/>\nWhen we were just boys<br \/>\nThen you threw it all away<br \/>\nFor some filthy whore<\/p>\n<p>[Chorus]<\/ul>\n<p><em>same<\/em> has been released on Randale Records, a German label. Of T.H.U.G., its website states: &#8220;Founding members Chuml[e]y and Simon had long been talking about getting another band together after playing in numerous Oi and Rock &#8216;n&#8217; Roll bands in the early 80s and 90s&#8230; &#8221;<\/p>\n<p>One of those bands was the neo-Nazi band &#8216;White Lightning&#8217;.<\/p>\n<p>White Lightning released one album, <em>We Rule<\/em>, the title track of which T.H.U.G. still performs. The opening track on <em>We Rule<\/em> is titled &#8216;Australian Youth&#8217;: &#8220;Make a stand for your great nation \/ Against the scum who are going to die&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>The album was subsequently re-recorded and released as \u2018Destiny\u2019 on French RAC label <em>Rebelles Europ\u00e9ens<\/em> (1987\u20131994) in 1990 (RE332190).<\/p>\n<p>Although apparently collapsing in 1994, in 1995 Rebelles Europ\u00e9ens made a short-lived recovery, assisted by an Australian label, White League. White League released a handful of CD recordings before it too dissolved. In addition, another former member of White Lightning, &#8216;Aussie&#8217; Nigel Brown (No Remorse, Celtic Warrior, Raven&#8217;s Wing, Wolfseye), together with a bloke called Billy, re-recorded and re-released <em>We Rule<\/em> on Welsh label &#8216;Independent Voice Records&#8217; in 1998.<\/p>\n<p>T.H.U.G. is thus one of a tiny clutch of bands with roots in the neo-Nazi rock &#8216;n&#8217; roll of the &#8217;80s and &#8217;90s; another is the UK band <a href=\"http:\/\/www.myspace.com\/tattooedmotherfuckers\">Tattooed Mother Fuckers<\/a> (TMF), whose vocalist is Steve &#8220;Jonesy&#8221; Jones, formerly of neo-Nazi band English Rose.<\/p>\n<p>Numerous other &#8216;patriotic&#8217; bands attempt to hide their reactionary politics behind the flag: Ross of UK oi! band <a href=\"http:\/\/www.myspace.com\/northernscum\">Scum<\/a>, for example, has recently been <a href=\"http:\/\/www.antifa.org.uk\/nucleus3.32\/nucleus332\/index.php?itemid=22\">outed as a Hitler fetishist by Benson &#038; Hedges<\/a>. Scum, in turn, played a gig with TMF in October 2008, while Australian band <a href=\"http:\/\/www.myspace.com\/thecorps\">The Corps<\/a> toured Europe with TMF and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.myspace.com\/retaliato\">Retaliator<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Retaliator, TMF, The Corps and Scum were all once available through local mail-order <a href=\"http:\/\/www.deadsetmusic.net\/\">Deadset Music<\/a> (whose proprietor was a patron at the 2006 <a href=\"http:\/\/slackbastard.anarchobase.com\/?p=405\">Ian Stuart Donaldson<\/a> (ISD) memorial gig).<\/p>\n<p>As for T.H.U.G., in 2000, Simon was interviewed by a Dutch neo-Nazi zine <em>Out of Order<\/em>. Simon says:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>All my mates were into oi! and white pride as well. I did not know any skinheads that were into oi! and were not white and proud of it. Lefty skinheads would never dare to show their face on the street for fear of getting severely beaten. And that\u2019s the way it should always be\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Old time skinheads rule!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In the same interview, Simon says:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>What is your best memory of White Lightning?<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Best memory was playing a gig in Melbourne, in some pub, can\u2019t remember which, full swing into it and about 30 Maoris drinking in the front bar\u2026 I\u2019m sure you can picture what happened. Bedlam. We managed to protect all our gear however. Mic stands make magnificent clubs.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>As for Chumley, in 1988, in an interview with <em>The Stormtroop<\/em> (an Australian RAC zine), Chumley comments:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>Do you have any opinion on the current crisis in the West Bank between the Jews and the Palestinians?<\/em><\/p>\n<p>As everyone can see the ever troublesome Jews are up to their old tricks by causing mass disorder. So we think that the Palestinians should wipe the Jews out and take back Palestine, then we should go in and wipe the Arabs off the face of the Earth.<\/p>\n<p><em>What do you think of the Australian Nationalists Movement?<\/em><\/p>\n<p>It makes a lot of sense.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><object width=\"340\" height=\"285\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/1xyS4MERN8Y&#038;hl=en_GB&#038;fs=1&#038;rel=0&#038;color1=0x5d1719&#038;color2=0xcd311b&#038;border=1\"><\/param><param name=\"allowFullScreen\" value=\"true\"><\/param><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"always\"><\/param><\/object><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Update : see\/hear also : Angry Anderson&#8217;s opinions on youth violence, Shane McLeod, The World Today (ABC), March 1, 2010. 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