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Update : Hear also hack on triple j, January 27, 2009 (Reconciliation Flash Mob et cetera).
- “Alan, it’s not just a few Anglo bastards on Australia Day, it’s millions. Australia is a very big country and it’s been taken over by this scum. It’s not a few causing trouble. It’s all of them.”
Caller: “What kind of grubs do we have here?”
Jones: “What kind of grubs? This lot were Anglo, we’re not allowed to say it, but I am saying it.”
The antics of somewhere between 80 and several hundred teenage boys on Manly beach on Australia/Invasion/Survival Day (January 26) has triggered some inevitable expressions of anguish over Australia, yoof, and the uses to which yoof put the Australian flag. Inevitable too, the drawing of comparisons with the violent racist outburst at Cronulla beach in 2005. In 2009, however, the odds were far less favourable for the young patriots: 80:1 as opposed to 5000:1. Nevertheless, the boys did succeed in wounding a teenage girl (of Asian descent), as well as frightening a lone taxi driver (a Sikh), a few (non-White) shopkeepers, and a number of local families with children.
Enough to make any digger’s heart swell with pride.
Naturally, ‘outsiders’ are being blamed for the troubles — many of the yoof supposedly came from suburbs other than Manly. By the same token, local police are keen to play down the significance of the teenagers’ antics.
However, it may be that the general public is becoming rather tired of the notion that being a (White) Australian and carrying a flag entitles you to act like a complete arsehole — or that having chosen to be born to non-White parents is a moral failing deserving of abuse, ridicule, or even physical assault.
More broadly, draping such dickheaded behaviour in the Australian flag does not bode well for the continued celebration of the Australian nation on January 26 (the day in 1788 that the British Empire landed in Australia), and reinforces calls for a day of nationalistic feeling to be moved to some other date. This won’t happen overnight — PM KRudd has already made that very clear — but it may well be inevitable.
As noted by Chris Graham, at its 44th National Conference (27-29 April 2007), KRudd’s party claimed to be “committed to reconciliation and … encouraged by the initiative of the community and corporate sector in driving reconciliation”. Further: “Labor will implement the recommendations made in 2000 by the Council for Aboriginal Reconciliation and will use the Council’s Australian Declaration towards Reconciliation as a basis for action”. The problem for KRudd is that “…establish[ing] and promot[ing] symbols of reconciliation… would include changing the date of Australia Day to a date that includes all Australians”; an ‘essential action’ with regards the ’symbols of reconciliation’.
Anyway, here’s what a UK daily reckons:
Violence mars Australia’s national day celebrations
Bonnie Malkin
The Daily Telegraph
January 27, 2009Each January 26, Australians gather in parks and on beaches to celebrate all that is great about their country: mateship, sunshine, barbecues and free-flowing beer.
But this year, across the country’s most populous state, the day of national pride turned violent when groups of youths rampaged through suburbs targetting non-white shopkeepers in a display of racism that echoed the ugly scenes of the 2005 Cronulla riots.
In the affluent Sydney suburb of Manly, where hundreds of families had set up their picnics for the day, more than 100 shirtless young men draped in “Aussie pride” flags smashed car windows and vandalised shops.
Carrying signs that read “- – - – off we’re full”, they paraded up and down the [seafront] threatening bypassers.
One 18-year-old Asian woman was injured when the gang smashed her car window, showering her in glass and causing several cuts to her arms.
There were also reports that the group attacked a taxi driven by an Indian Sikh and an Asian shopkeeper.
In scenes reminiscent of the Cronulla riots, when 5,000 white Australians congregated in the Sydney beachfront suburb and attacked Lebanese immigrants [sic], groups of men jumped on cars that were stopped at traffic lights and chanted racist slogans to the terrified passengers.
NB. Those targetted for violence in Cronulla on December 11, 2005 were all those deemed to be insufficiently ‘White’ (of ‘Middle Eastern’ appearance). This included presumed Lebanese-Australians, but also a handful of students from Bangladesh, among others, while some police and ambulance workers who came to the assistance of victims were also attacked. “Commissioner Ken Moroney says an ambulance officer was attacked while transferring an injured person and the crowd turned on a woman because of her race. “That woman was saved, literally saved by the police officers and those officers deserve my highest commendation for the way in which they went about their task,” he said.
At one point the gang was reportedly heard singing “lets go – - – - with these Lebs”.
Animosity towards Lebanese-Australians is a trait also shared by members of the ‘Southern Cross Soldiers’. At least 30 members of this volunteer army (according to the Soldiers themselves, as many as 100) gathered on Melbourne beaches to celebrate Australia Day.
Jean Hay, the mayor of Manly, said the youths came from the north-west of Sydney and were not Manly residents.
The unrest was brought under control by the late afternoon. Police charged a 16-year-old for assaulting police and three others were cautioned for offensive and dangerous behaviour.
The violence in Manly was mirrored in the coastal towns of Shellharbour to Sydney’s south and Port Macquarie to the north. Fights were also reported as far north as Queensland’s Gold Coast, where hundreds of teenagers clashed on a popular family beach.
See also : Manly ‘morons’ rampage was racist: academic, Georgina Robinson, Sydney Morning Herald, January 27, 2009
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F off we’re full?… haha, that’s quite funny Australia Day represents Captain Cook taking over the country, so really no one belongs here but the aboriginals right?
So i guess who should be wearing those shirts are aboriginals
Having travelled on Sydn[e]y trans [sic] that were jammed full of people and having seen most of the people in them being [of] ethnic origin I am convinced that our cities are being swamped by ethnics.
All praise to those young people who used Australia Day 2009 to protest. Look at the forthcoming web site http://www.patrioticyouthleague.net for a wealth of information about immigration and its deleterious effects on Australia.
Last chance john.
Q. Aren’t you a little old to be a youth?
F off we’re full? Gov don’t agree with you. Looks Australia are short of IT, accountant, doc, nurse, train driver and even hair-cut guy and cooker. Australia need these people move into the country and ask them live there to help the country. Why that happened? Because too many stupid Anglo just know drink beer and don’t know how to work. They just show them in the public again. Shirtless-drank young. I say: F off, you’re fool.
Looks they own the land but it’s not. They said this to aboriginals : “Who was born here not mean he own the land”. I say “You come here early not mean you own the land”.
US make it. Let’s see the first Asia or Africa PM for Oz in next 20 years.
Who cares about the government? The government is a collection of puppets of international Zionism. They say what the Zionist Jews want them to say. Basically, people should ignore the Zionist puppets. Haven’t you heard of a little thing called the great financial crisis? The skill shortage is over. So the immigrants should be deported [en masse]. The European whites can stay but the inferior non whites must leave. They are biological crap that has no place in white Australia.
Heil Hegel!
Heil Stasse!
LONG LIVE NATIONAL BOLSHEVISM!
Jesus wept what a load of freaks. Australia’s one of the least heavily populated places in the world ffs how much room do these people need? Is it just that they’re so obnoxious it’s impossible to fit more than a couple in a square mile without them needing to start a fight?
Aaanyway Andy you mind if I partially lift this post for the Blog Bites section of Freedom?
Hey Rob,
Feel free to lift anything from my blog, at any time.
Aussie Bonehead,
Hegel? Stasse?!? A nationalist and a Bolshevik? You’re a big silly.
Zhang,
Beer good. Work bad. More beer, less work.
The National Bolsheviks are very much strong in the former Soviet Union. We are opposed to communism and capitalism. We are of the third position. The NBs stand for a mixed market socialist system. The National Bolsheviks reject internationalism and support socialism in one country and putting the country’s interests first above that of other nations and other people.
The difference between Bolshevism and National Bolshevism is that the Bolsheviks supported a state owned and run economy but we maintain that private property should be the main mode of production, distribution and exchange and that private property should complement collective ownership. State ownership and control should be kept to a necessary minimum.
Otto Strasser is our racial and nationalist ideological leader. George Hegel is our social and economic leader.
Right. Otto Strasser, not “Stasse”. (He’s dead, btw. So too, Hegel.)
Strasser was a tosser, who hated The Jew, but also claimed to reject ‘racialism’, or at least of the kind which Hitler used to justify his pursuit of a European Empire (under Nazi control). By the same token, Strasser’s ’socialism’ did not embrace a vision of a classless society, but a strictly authoritarian regime, in which Good Little Germans — much like himself — dispensed orders.
why bother andy
That question has occurred to me…
The philosophies of Hegel and Strasser go hand in hand with each other. Racialism, socialism and nationalism and the kew policies of the NBs. That’s all that needs to be said.
I’m not sure how the residents of Kew will respond, but you’re right about one thing: that’s all that will be said.
What a racist country! This shows how barbarian and narrow minded Aussies are..Education is the third source of income for Australia..Just imagine what would the country be like without Asians and foreigners coming to study in Australia (poverty, economic problems, and more unemployment..congrats)..Where is your brain? If you’re so racist, don’t eat any Asian food, don’t buy any Asian products, don’t travel to other countries, and just stick to your own kind..Australian is a developed country but these racists in the country are so under-developed..People come to study or live in Australia for a short period of time..I’m one of them and I can tell you that I’m only here for one year’s education and I’ll leave as soon as I graduate..Lots of us don’t even wanna be here..When I go back to my country, I will not come back to Australia again..And, I’ll make sure to tell my friends and the public that Australia isn’t such a nice place for education, tourism, or living.
OMG, I had no idea Australia was such a racist country, being as most of them are descendents of criminals from the UK. I knew they had treated their aboringals worse than we treated our First Nations people, but this attacking people on their national holiday is just disgusting.
I worked with and met some very nice Australians on a tour of South America, so I guess they must have been the hardworking, educated ones who have the brains not to be yobs. Does Australia have ASBO like the UK? Sounds like they need it.
Where was Kitler on Australia Day?
ASBO’s??? Are you sure you know what you’re talking about? These are seen as badges of honour amongst the scum that inhabit our cities. Not many people have them anyway as the police are too scared to venture in to most ‘communities’. Not that I blame the police – I wouldn’t patrol Little Somalia (London) or Little Pakistan (Birmingham) armed with just a stick!
I hope and pray that Australia takes no lead from Britain WRT Immigration. We are so culturally enriched and diversified that most white people want out.
Finally, your comment about most Australians being descended from criminals just proves what a cretin you are. I imagine you’re a very liberal, kind hearted person who lives no where near a big city.
oh dear.
people are so overly one way or the other on this one- It is a matter of difference and integration, but sadly, i can see both sides here.
by one end or another, there is a mutual closed mindedness where neither recent immigrants or typically white Australians with a bit of a family tree on the island will really have the fortitude to step over the great cultural divide and realize neither are under threat. Consider this cycle: You take a man and drop him off in Australia- He finds the local community of his previous country or perhaps his sponsor in Australia if he is lucky enough not to be a refugee. He is absorbed into said community and life continues in a similar manner to how it was from whence he came. The need to integrate is not an immediate demand, however, by the fact that his small community of countrymen have such diversity and are as an island of their culture in a sea of other things they might not know or venture to discover what lies outside of that specific world; the ways of home become more important, distancing and alienating them from the greater population. Meanwhile your white Australian is seeing more and more of these goings on and wonders, knowing nothing of these people who now are inhabiting to them, what is traditional territory- destabilizing their identity.
so a pluralized monoculture ensues. both with an ‘Us not Them’ mentality, both having right to the land- through inheritance or policy. It is an easy point to start a competition- which when you are devaluing the other team can quickly go in a Cronulla like direction. Loyalties lie usually on one side of the fence while ignorant bastards from both sides go at each other, making everyone look stupid.
this is the point where i have to stipulate to the PC watchdogs out there that this is of course not always the case, and whatever else it takes to stop you getting all in a huff about whatever it is you’re caring about this week.
so lets have a look at the place- we take more people, fine. we have local population growth fine. we have space, sure- but have we enough water? at what point is there enough people? do we have anyone looking into that, i mean, really do we? must we take immigrants at such a rate that it makes integration to the already standing society difficult?
these are questions i, as your everyday white Aussie from god knows how long back is wondering. And if ignorant buggers from either side will stop fueling the other side to be against them and themselves.
nathan,
Re difference and integration.
To begin with, I think attitudes towards those of different ethnicities and nationalities vary considerably. For example, a frequent complaint on sites like Stormfront — but also elsewhere — is the mere presence of non-Whites on the streets of Australia; this antagonism is reinforced if the language being spoken by these individuals is other-than English. I think this discomfit is often — but not always — a question of familiarity. Hence younger Australians, on the whole, tend to be less sensitive to such matters than do older Australians; this tends to be the case regardless of their own ethnicity or language capability.
Secondly, I think issues like difference, integration and assimilation need to be placed in their historical, as well as social, context. Thus Australia has experienced a number of waves of migration, especially (but not only) in the post-WWII period. Over time, and with the gradual abandonment of the White Australia policy, this has meant that the number of non-Anglo-Saxon/Celtic, non-English-speaking migrants has increased (relatively-speaking) — although the largest number of migrants to the country continue to come from the UK.
In this context, accounts of the actual experiences of Australian immigrants are worth paying attention to, I think. This takes many forms, but one obvious example is the Immigration Museum in Melbourne.
One of the most obvious barriers to communication, and hence mutual understanding, is language. The vast majority of Australians, and indeed even many recent immigrants, speak English. Those who do not face considerable difficulties in communicating with members of the society as a whole. In recognition of this fact, considerable efforts are made — and have been for some decades — to encourage the learning of English by non-native speakers (that is, those for whom English is not a ‘first language’).
More broadly, I think the differences of which you speak are not linguistic but cultural. That is, they refer to ‘ways of life’.
Almost invariably, ‘cultural’ differences are considered as being synonymous with ‘ethnic’ and ‘national’ differences; that is, there is such a thing as ‘Lebanese’ culture (for example), which is uniform and constant: one Lebanese person pursues much the same way of life (culture) as any other. This is problematic as it obscures differences which are internal to cultures / ethnicities / nationalities (and so on). One of the principal dividing lines between Lebanese-Australians, for example, is religion; some are Christian, some are Muslim, but others are neither. Within these religious categories there are further differences. For example, perhaps half of the population is Maronite Christian; Lebanese-Australian Muslims are for the most part Shia or Sunni.
In addition to ethnicity, nationality and religion, individuals express and embody diversity in terms of sex, sexuality, gender, class, politics and in numerous other ways which often defy this kind of categorisation.
In terms of Australian society, for several decades the state has been dedicated to a policy known as ‘multiculturalism’ (as opposed to what you refer to as “a pluralized monoculture”). In most public discourse, this is read as meaning the maintenance of ethnic boundaries (which, as I suggested earlier, are considered synonymous with culture), and little else. However, what is often unrecognised is that this policy was formulated quite explicitly within a political context, and that context is framed by a commitment to Australian institutions. Thus:
Moar later, but briefly: I have a very different understanding of the meaning and significance of ‘Cronulla’; culture; history; assimilation and integration; ecology; politics.
Don’t let the darkies do to Australia what they have done to America.
Reenact the whites only policy in Australia. Keep it white so whites can have a place.
I am an American [blah blah blah whinge whinge whinge].
Those white youth in Australia are heroes for defending their country from dark hordes.
You will know the supreme fighting man of the world, you will know the white man. I live in America.
WHEN THE REVOLUTION COMES I WILL LOOK FOR YOU.
FIGHT BACK WHITE MAN! RESIST THEIR TYRANNY! IGNORE THEIR MADNESS! NEVER ALLOW THEM TO STEAL AWAY YOUR FOCUS FROM YOUR OWN DESIRES. They need your attention to grow fat, they need your energy…don’t give it to the savages.
It’s time to fight back white people, take back your world.
We are just & righteous!
White pride & power world wide! MUCH LOVE TO ALL WHITE PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD!
Fight for our common wealth!
Hello I Borat! Australian you white, brown and yellow know how to make bestfriend. You know Australia is the best country, the most best in the world now for victim of crime. Yes! Your best are the rape and the assault. This make me very sad when I hear this because now you beat my Kazakhstan. So I try to buy my countrymen, my strongmen with big balls more beer and pills for girls drinks but no good we have problem with evolution. But now I must, I must excuse me, nice to meet you. Yakshemash.
There’s a group on Facebook called ‘Fuck Off We’re Full”. I wonder if people are aware that groups are searchable now. Hmmm…
psssssssst… according to Dazza, the FOWF Facebook group was infiltrated by destructive multiculturalists… and it’s been disappeared.
Darn it. What an embarrassment.
firstly australians didn’t invade this land, the british did. as a nurse we are [I am] strongly educated on how to better the lives of the indigenous communities and this is personally a field of my profession that i take very seriously. if u want to stereotype the whole of australia as racists then u r are just as narrow minded as you accuse us of being. the people you speak of are ‘CRIMINALS’ which every country have [has] and in most cases are ten times worse than that [those] of this fine land. i am not a racist but i am patriotic. if you don’t like australia then leave!!! don’t live here. find a beautiful place in the world where crime, racism, violence and all the horrible traits you say this country has don’t exist. good luck mate! i don’t in any way support violence against any man [or] woman of any colour or age and it is a real shame that this happens. but i do love the country i live in and i feel it is unfair that migrants come here and expect us to adapt to them when it should be the other way around. you will find that the majority of crime is committed by men of middle eastern or asian ethnicity, that is a fact! whilst traveling to other countries i have managed to uphold a high level of respect, courtesy and cultural sensitivity to all people. it’s a shame you take on a few negative images of dickhead australians (every country grows dickheads) and apply that to all australians. i come from a long line of honest decent hard working people and if you weren’t so busy slagging us off you may actually see that the majority of us are not all racist unemployed yobbos
kind regards
[corrected for spelling]
sarahjade,
1. To whom are your remarks addressed? Myself? weez? Garry? SrNanny? MD? Rob R? Zhang? Moo? Or someone else?
2. Yes, the ‘British’ invaded Australia, it was claimed on behalf of King George III, and a penal colony was established. In 1901, upon receiving Queen Victoria’s Royal Assent, the Commonwealth of Australia was formed.
Your point is…?
3. You claim: “migrants come here and expect us to adapt to them when it should be the other way around”. Which migrants are you referring to, and how do they force ‘us’ to ‘adapt’ to them? What does this mean, in practice? Perhaps you could provide three examples of migrants forcing Australian citizens to ‘adapt’ to their presence, and explain why these adaptations are unfair?
4. You further claim that: “you will find that the majority of crime is committed by men of middle eastern or asian ethnicity, that is a fact!” Is it? Says who? Which studies of rates of Australian crime are you referring to?
The ‘Conclusion’ of one 1999 study (‘Ethnicity and crime : an Australian research study’, Satyanshu Mukherjee, Canberra : Australian Institute of Criminology, prepared for the Department of Immigration and Multicultural Affairs) reads as follows:
Note: this is an extract.
Did you know that almost one hundred percent of visa violations detected in Australia are committed by people who aren’t even citizens? One hundred percent! Foreigners are all criminals! That’s just a fact!
I’m not racist or anything but these people come here and then expect us to put up with them speaking their foreign languages and not having BBQs and footy explorers aussie-aussie-aussie fair-go-mateship don bradman crocodile-dundee-hunter anzacs-gallipoli-diggers-donkey blokes’n’sheilas…sorry, I was wearing an Australian flag as a cape and I got carried away…oh yeah, I’m not racist, no-one in Australia is racist except maybe those black people and those foreigners who drive the taxis and are behind the counter in the 7-eleven and it is virtually racist of you to say that people are racist take that! You say you’re for tolerance but then you’re like all critical of people for being racist, caught you in a contradiction didn’t I? Reconcile that!
On a less stupid note, if SBS is to be believed Australia’s first swine flu fatality was an Indigenous man in his mid-twenties. What a shock.
lumpnboy,
I am stunned that you forgot football, meat pies, kangaroos and Holden cars — all of which migrants have demanded Australians abandon for jihad / trugo / chess, mee goreng / tabouleh / yams, bears / camels / donkeys, and motor vehicles manufactured in China. Or Korea. Or Eastern Europe. Anywhere but a GM-controlled plant.
Fact.
Football was in there (cunningly disguised as ‘footy’ though, since as I’m technically an ‘Aussie’ I’m automatically required to be on a colloquial-name basis with the sport). My forgetting of the rest reflects my ersatz-aussie status, as well as a repressed-memory syndrome about the symbols of patriotism…
Repress-no-more!
I think I better tell ya again!
Very Aussie.
Aussie as apple pie, even.
1.
Chevrolet/Deutsch LA – Baseball Apple Pie and Chevrolet Return in Updated “Love Affair” “Baseball, Hot Dogs, Apple Pie and Chevrolet
Marty Bernstein, The Auto Channel’s Auto Advertising and Marketing editor tips us off to a sequel to the famous and effective 1974 Chevy TV ad campaign.
The famed commercial had our nation singing in 1974, changing car commercials and automotive branding forever, is back with a modern spin.
The new spot “Love Affair” was created by Deutsch Los Angeles, and takes vintage footage from the original spot starring the notorious jingle writer Ed Labunski and incorporates new and distinctive characteristics of today¹s American Lifestyle and today’s game of baseball.
As Chevrolet and Major League Baseball have both evolved and modernized through the decades, it’s only fitting to now hear “Free Agents, Rally Monkeys, Fantasy Leagues and Chevrolet.”
Below is a Fact Sheet from Deutsch Los Angeles
Summary:
Chevrolet, a brand of unparalleled tradition and Americana equity, has mastered contemporary and modern in its new Chevy cars and trucks. “Love Affair” marries the brand’s nostalgic past with its progressive present and future. Because “Baseball, Hot Dogs, Apple Pie and Chevrolet” so famously and adoringly captured the unique link between Chevy and Baseball, it was the ideal choice to cue Chevy’s Americana heritage, and while at the same time reflecting the brand’s 21st century outlook.
The Original Song/Commercial “Baseball, Hot Dogs, Apple Pie and Chevrolet”:
- The song was recorded in 1974.
- It aired in commercials from 1974 – 1978.
- Ed Labunski composed the music and appeared in the original commercial “Baseball, Hot Dogs, Apple Pie and Chevrolet”.
- Jim Hartzell, a copywriter with Campbell-Ewald/Detroit, wrote the lyrics.
- Campbell-Ewald created the spot for Chevrolet.
- The commercial tied for first place in Car and Driver’s January 2005 Ten Best Car Commercials and is widely considered to have changed car commercials and automotive branding forever.
Ed Labunski:
- Born in New York City (1937), Ed launched his jingle career by founding Jingles Unlimited.
- As a producer and composer, Ed won 28 Clios and his company was the second largest jingle company in New York in the late 1970’s; He died in 1980.
The Campaign from Deutsch, Los Angeles:
- Breaking on Saturday, July 1 on Fox and Sunday, July 2 on ESPN, in advance of the All-Star Game on July 11.
- In addition to the :60 & :30 TV spots, other elements include: print, digital (banners, fan emails, etc), billboards, in-stadium signage, car toppers, windshield clings, mirror danglers, wall signs, coasters, buttons, game programs, flyers and posters.
2.
Holden & Chevrolet = GM. GM = bankruptcy = corporate welfare.
At the end of the day, FOWF is a load of shit.
I’ve seen aggies with these stickers on on their utes. What a crock. How much of the world have these people seen. Be insular. Why? Because that’s all they have to fall back on when there is nothing else.
At the end of the day, I didn’t care who won because at the end of the day, they would both cancel each other out.
With regards to GM, boganism is big business.
Hi guys. I think that most australians share my view here (well educated ones). It has nothing to do with being racist, its just that we DONT want Australia turning into the overpopulated mess that most other countries have become and with our immigration laws there is just no end to the amount of people flocking to this country because of what we do have (which we wont for long if this continues).
Another issue with australians is those immigrants who move to oz and live a separatist life and generally rubbish australians. God knows there are some australians that behave in a disgusting and racist way which is usually in poorer suburbs where the racism has been taught from parents to children but most aussies, that i know anyway, are not in any way racist. Be aware that racism can come from both sides and ALOT of immigrants are RACIST against australians.
For those here who have been the target of racist comments, best way to deal with it is ignore it and understand that these people are the ones who should be pitied but lets not heap everyone into the same boat. Sure there are aussies racists but they are not everyone. Dont judge all by the bad behaviour of some and lets all just try and get along with each other.
davo, you’re a legend mate and I’m sure you tell people that you’ve got lots of Aboriginal friends.
facts are cobber, your country is a tiny outpost of anglo-american imperialism on the outskirts of Asia – basically that means you’re fucked.
you might start trying to save your arse by fucking off the QUEEN of ENGLAND as the constitutional head of state, secondly take a leaf out of KRudd’s book and brush up on your Mandarin.
There’s a new Fuck Off We’re Full facebook group that’s well worth checking out — they raise some interesting issues.
Ladies and gentlemen, er, we’ve just lost the link, but, uh, what we’ve seen speaks for itself. The Facebook website has apparently been taken over — conquered, if you will — by a master race of giant reptoids. It’s difficult to tell from this vantage point whether they will consume the captive users or merely enslave them. One thing is for certain, there is no stopping them; the reptiles will soon rise up. And I, for one, welcome our new reptile overlords. I’d like to remind them that as a trusted blogging personality, I can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their above-ground insect farms.
we took this country form the abos 200 years ago fair and square, n if u think im gonna let a bunch of indians and asians take it from me then ur fuckin wrong. send em back.
Maybe said asians and indians don’t realise they’re on occupied land.
It has happened before.
Pretty easy mistake to make really. Who were those black fellas running round 200 years ago? I don’t know, clearly a case of Terra nullius but.
Who are these morons wearing stoopid capes on beaches? Don’t know, but again…
You fucktards. “Aussie” does NOT mean “Anglo”. Nor does “Aussie” mean “Christian”, or any other fucked up stereotype you had in mind.
Australia is, by definition and by law, a multicultural country. Also, it’s a secular country.
That means anyone, no matter what religion, no matter what ethnicity, is an Australian if they have Australian citizenship. If you don’t like it, then get the fuck out: YOU don’t belong here because you, legally and ideologically, go against what this country REALLY stands for. I’m proud of my country and I don’t need fuckers like you giving it a bad rep.
Anyone with Australian citizenship has just as much right to be here as you do. And let’s not forget, plenty of “ethnics” (as you term them) were BORN HERE.
And also: our country is far from being overpopulated. We have one of the lowest population densities in the world. Don’t like “migrants” crowding “your” city? Then move to the fucking outback in your Holden ute and set up a barbie and chuck a couple of shrimps on it. If you’re so ‘Aussie’ then you should have no problem adapting to the outback, right?
Sure, I don’t like illegal immigrants coming here and taking jobs and resources. But this isn’t based on their race. It’s scientifically proven that there is no superior race. So get over yourselves, wankers.
Educate yourselves, bogans. Don’t be afraid of what you don’t understand – it just highlights your stupidity.
Oh and also; most migrants here are not illegal immigrants. You do realise that illegal immigrants make up a tiny, tiny fraction of the population, don’t you?
Wait, of course you don’t. You’re uneducated trash.
Seriously guys, fuck Asians? Hah! Don’t fucking wear those items that were made there. Look at you poor fucks, buying things that is made from Asia. Fuckheads. Might as well, do your own fucking condoms at home. Fuckheads!
Seriously Lol,
The members of now defunct Facebook groups such as ‘Fuck Off We’re Full’ do not oppose consuming items manufactured in Asia, they simply oppose any further migration to the country. Many are also racist, in that they oppose, in particular, non-White immigration, whether from Asia, Africa, the Middle East, or elsewhere.
And yes: they are fuckheads.
OI im an aussie and proud of it i dont care if some bohgans wanna go attack people i mean there choice but i dont stand for americans and uk people saying shit about my country fuck you america is so far up there own arse they can eat there own heart and uk so far up americas arse there joining in we are a proud country and i agree all you other cunts can fuck offffff!!!
i am white,i am proud,this country australia is a country of england!!!
this country now is [nearly] fucked cause of all the third world country scum here.
they dont want to fit in,they dont [assimilate],no speak english,they are taking our jobs,they [wear] [their] crap clothes,shit smelly food,these dumb ass make believe [religions].
its fucked here,say no to boat people,no [multiculturalism],no to ethics, ” FUCK [OFF] WERE FULL” alrite
bring back white australia [policy] and NOW……
thank you
On the contrary glen,
Thank you.
THIS IS ALL ABOUT CATHOLICS ABUSING ANGLICANS YA CUNT
I see.
Mixing of race makes a country great in its education, innovation and progressiveness. Take an example of USA, Singapore, Malaysia etc. If Albert Einstein wasn’t migrated to USA, USA would failed get the greatest Scientist of all time! Take to the largest corporation like Intel, AMD and Sun Microsystems. You will find lots of scientists and engineers are from India, China and mainly Asia. USA is progressing in all aspect not because they are proud American but they are intelligent enough to understand the importance of knowledge sharing and diversification. Singapore is a country created by the migrant and it boomed in last 20 years! Same for Malaysia. Lots of people from China, India and Bangladesh is working and investing in Malaysia and contributing to the wealth.
Now I see some un-educated so called white people are too arrogant for their pale skin and want the non-white people to leave Australia! This is interesting because those white trash don’t understand the meaning of diversification of society and don’t know that it will decrease the average IQ of Australia
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Seriously, those who against non-white people in Australia (I am sure not all Australians are racist) need some careful education to accept wide range of diverse people. This is the sign of educated society that can accept all sort of culture, religion and ethnicity inside it. But reading several Aussie response, it seems that the young Australian society need much careful nurturing! I live in a third world country and I have been to several other third world countries. But the attitude of some of the white Aussies is much more under-civilised than that of a young group of the third world countries. I don’t why! USA used to suffer this kind of issues late 60s. But nowadays… it is too much to have these filth in the society like Australia!
Let me keep this pure and simple… I am Anglo, my wife is Korean, my son is Taiwanese (previous marriage) so I can’t be classed as a racist but a Patriot Aussie descending from the First Fleet with Captain James Cook in 1788. No convicts in my blood, but a member of the House of Lords in England who was a classmate to Captain James Cook. Don’t believe me? Heard of Dunk Island? Anyway I’ll get to the point!
Australia was founded by ‘Anglo-Saxons’ who were from the United Kingdom aka England under orders of our Kings and Queens (Anglo-Saxon) to allow Capt. James Cook (Anglo-Saxon) and his Endeavour (made by Anglo-Saxons) along with a small handful of 100 Convicts (Anglo-Saxons) to help maintain the expedition and also to guard Navigators (Anglo-Saxons), Chefs (Anglo-Saxons), Blacksmiths (Anglo-Saxons), Farmers (Anglo-Saxons), Accountants (Anglo-Saxons), Artists (Anglo-Saxons), Doctors (Anglo-Saxons) [et al] from any attacks on the Endeavour. So it clearly shows that Australia was proudly founded and owned by Anglo-Saxons. Pure and simple.
Lol, don’t give me the crap about the Abos as they should be more thankful to us than making us keep saying sorry. If we were not here the Japanese were on a rampage to kill all blacks and whites so the world has Japanese blood. So start saying thank you as America couldn’t do it alone without us making a strong nation to defend ourselves.
Please don’t mock our Anglo-Saxon heritage and the backbone of this country as we have every right to dig our heels deep in our land to protect it. Just like my wife (Korean) hates the Indians and SE Asians for destroying her country making slums and crying for a piece of their country and they have patriot Koreans just like every country but yet again Anglo-Australians are racist but no other race is. How the fuck does that work? Its our land by right so we can defend it by all means.
If you were to look at a country like [sic] African, Pakistan, India, Arab Nations blowing each other up, drinking, washing, shitting and swimming in the river with half burnt corpses and slums filled will rats and cows and having thousands of family photos on Save the World Vision. Please send me money I’m starving and poor while riddled with alien diseases. Fuck. What is wrong with those nations you start to think. But on the other hand you start to look at Australia owned by Anglo-Saxons. We have clean Golden Beaches with fresh toilet blocks, Kids well fed running around in the park playing rugby (Anglo-Saxon) sport. Lots of jobs, lots of money, the list goes on and on… So tell me which country do you prefer: Fuck Ups or Anglo-Saxon Australia. We are not racist so Fuck off we are Full of Fuck Ups trying to change our country’s heritage. A note from my wife “Shut up and blend in or Fuck Off… Pure and simple”.
Pure and simple?
One might even go so far as to say pure and unadulterated simple-minded bullshit.
i
The First Fleet was composed of eleven vessels.
The Endeavour was not one of them.
Captain James Cook was not on board.
You’re an ignoramus.
The vessels were relatively small, under-supplied and massively overcrowded (especially for their convict prisoners). It was a commercial, for-profit operation, financed by the British Government.
The voyagers were roughly divided into two: of the 1,500 or so on board, half were convicts. All were from England, most from London. The oldest female convict was 82-year-old Dorothy Handland. Convicted of perjury, she hanged herself from a tree in 1789: Australia’s first recorded suicide.
Such glories.
ii
When the Fleet set sail in 1787, George III (1738–1820) was King of Great Britain and King of Ireland; the United Kingdom (of Great Britain and Ireland) was formed several years after the Fleet’s arrival, in 1801, and was dissolved (in name) in 1927, five years after the formation of the Irish Free State (Ireland minus the Six Counties/’Northern Ireland’) later termed Ireland (or Éire).
iii
The ‘Anglo-Saxons’ are descendants of the Germanic tribes what invaded contemporary ‘Great Britain’ in the 5th century AD. Anglo-Saxon kingship imposed itself upon the existant populations of this part of the world until the 11th century, at which point the Normans (Norsemen/Northmen/Men of the North) overthrew Anglo-Saxon rule and established their own form of tyranny.
1066 And All That.
iv
George III gave royal approval to colonise Australia, but the plan was hatched by bureaucrats belonging to Pitt’s government, partly in response to the loss of the American colonies following the War of Independence, and partly as a presumed, crackpot ’solution’ to the ‘problem’ of the social scum overflowing England’s hulks and jails. Access to raw materials for ship-building to augment inter-imperialist rivalry with the French also provided a motivating factor.
v
The arts and sciences of late eighteenth century England were products of history, and constituted not an ‘Anglo-Saxon essence’ but an amalgamation of ideas and practices drawn from a vast range of sources, both European and non-European. Regarding navigation, for example, the astrolabe was highly developed in the Islamic world by 800 and was introduced to Europe from Islamic Spain (Andalusia) in the early 12th century. Accountancy depends upon mathematics: mathematics has roots in ancient Egypt and Babylonia; it grew rapidly in ancient Greece. These sources were translated into Arabic. Mathematics developed in India was also translated into Arabic. Later, some of this mathematics was translated into Latin, which became the mathematics of Western Europe.
Lol, I can’t really sit here and talk to someone like you from an ethnic background manipulating history with your non-Anglo Indian factory made books on our history. Did you know Wikipedia has been changed so much to suit the non-Anglo theories to make us look bad, bloody hell! Get off reading those shit. So you kinda need to beef up your education. Look and learn, Captain James Cook discovered Australia (East Coast) including all related history with the discovery of Australia was and always be an Anglo-Saxon Nation. Get over it.
Huh! 1500 convicts and a handful of diplomats? Why didn’t the convicts all gang up on the tiny handful of diplomats and turn it into a murderous convict/viking looters of the world holding England for ransom as soon as they left England. But really they got here in one peace. Learn your maths, if your a Ship Building Engineer you would know ships in those days could not fit more than 1500 people… so huh! 1000 convicts with 500 [diplomats] or 500 convicts with 1000 [diplomats]! Have you found the odds or you say half 750 both ways, hmmm! Out in the middle of nowhere sounds like a bad idea to take the risk. What you hear and know from your narrow minded propaganda is just a heresy to attack our proud Aussies.
I agree it was an ill fated trip but along the way that’s where mateship started ’cause when they got here they made paradise for you and I today. So stop dissing the backbone of Australia when all they do is want to be proud and happy with their heritage. By the way, did you know Australia was originally named New Holland-(Anglo-Saxon)-Dutch.
Anyway Andy, which do you prefer a nation like India, Pakistan, Arab Nations or Anglo-Saxon Australia?
It’s not too hard is it.
Lol, I can’t really sit here and talk to someone like you from an ethnic background manipulating history with your non-Anglo Indian factory made books on our history.
Correct. By the same token, you really can’t write either. Or think good. In fact, reading your replies is akin to being flogged by a warm lettuce leaf. And while I enjoy munching curry as much as the next whinging pommy bastard, I’m forced to conclude that you’re not the sharpest knife in the drawer / a few peas short of a casserole / a few sandwiches short of a picnic / a few beers short of a six-pack.
Did you know Wikipedia has been changed so much to suit the non-Anglo theories to make us look bad, bloody hell! Get off reading those shit. So you kinda need to beef up your education. Look and learn, Captain James Cook discovered Australia (East Coast) including all related history with the discovery of Australia was and always be an Anglo-Saxon Nation. Get over it.
Wikipedia may be the sole fount of your wisdom, but you may be surprised to learn that there’s also this crazy new thing called ‘books’. Generally speaking, books are printed on paper, made from wood pulp: a technique pioneered in China in the second century AD, but only adopted by Europeans over 1,000 years later. Books may be found in strange and exotic places called libraries. The State Library of Victoria, for example, has literally millions of these spooky items.
Despite it being vewy scawy, I managed to master the art of reading books at the age of 4 or 5. As a result of this incredible capacity to read, among the many amazing things I’ve discovered since then is that The First Fleet was composed of eleven vessels, of which The Endeavour was not one (and Captain James Cook was nowhere to be found on any of them).
I’m sorry if this makes you cry. If it makes you feel better, blame the ethnics. Or Wikipedia.
Huh! 1500 convicts and a handful of diplomats?
You have trouble reading, obviously, and are deeply suspicious of book-learning, but you also have remarkable difficulty with basic comprehension and math.
I noted that there were approximately 1,500 passengers on board the First Fleet, of whom roughly half were convicts. Half of 1,500 is not 1,500, it’s 750. I also made no reference to ‘diplomats’, or any other remarks about the crew on the First Fleet (apart from the fact that Captain James Cook was not one of them).
Why didn’t the convicts all gang up on the tiny handful of diplomats and turn it into a murderous convict/viking looters of the world holding England for ransom as soon as they left England. But really they got here in one peace. Learn your maths, if your a Ship Building Engineer you would know ships in those days could not fit more than 1500 people… so huh! 1000 convicts with 500 [diplomats] or 500 convicts with 1000 [diplomats]! Have you found the odds or you say half 750 both ways, hmmm! Out in the middle of nowhere sounds like a bad idea to take the risk. What you hear and know from your narrow minded propaganda is just a heresy to attack our proud Aussies…
You can learn about the voyage of the First Fleet by reading about it. For example, in the diaries of such men as Watkin Tench. The common denominator among the convicts was youth, and ill-fortune. There was one gardener, one fisherman, and very few skilled tradesmen. The expedition was organised by men whose gross incompetence (frequently remarked upon by Captain Phillip) may be profitably compared to your own gross ignorance of history, politics, economy and society. Those subject to transportation were poor, mostly illiterate, ill-fed and ill-treated, kept in chains, almost always in darkness, and had very little idea of the nature of their voyage or the troubles that would greet them on their arrival. It was a 15,000-mile journey which took 252 days: 48 died during the passage.
You are the weakest link.
Goodbye.
Good grief. This is some of the Anglo-Saxon stock we’ve got in Australia?
Fucking hell.
That’s all I can say. Too flabbergasted.
In reply to the uneducated morons who start their racist comments with “I’m not racist or anything but … Blah, blah, blah …” you need to take your hillbilly selves out of your white trash houses and learn the true history of this country and how the Caucasians (some of whom were my ancestors) massacred the ORIGINAL inhabitants of this country.
For well over 40000 years this country was occupied by a race of dark skinned … yes I said DARK SKINNED people who lived in harmony with the land only taking what they needed to survive.
Then along came a ship or two, one of which I think was called the Endeavour, and located this already occupied land.
Their own country was overpopulated and full of pestilence and criminals, many of whom were forced to survive on ships in the harbour. They needed somewhere to offload their hardened criminals, many who stole food, clothing and money to survive and feed their families.
They decided they wanted this land and forcibly took it then raped and pillaged their way through the Native population killing innocent women and children along the way. The diseases they bought with them also had a devastating effect on the Indigenous people. The remaining Indigenous population were forced to learn the language and culture of the invaders.
If you believe no one in Australia is racist well you really need to take a walk with my three law abiding and highly intelligent daughters as they go about their daily business. They cannot walk into a shop without being followed (until the staff realise these clean and tidy dark skinned young women are with me).
These girls have IQs above average and are always polite and respectable to those who treat them as equals.
Of course, like their angry Caucasian mother (I am descended from Irish and English convicts and Scottish free settlers), they can give as good as they get when racist jerks disrespect them and their right to live equally with EVERY other Australian citizen.
Correct me if I am wrong but isn’t it obvious that visa violations would be committed by people who are not citizens … How can a citizen commit a visa violation when they are allowed to live in this country?
As for expecting “us” to put up with them speaking their language and following their culture … they are just copying the tradition set down by our ancestors when they arrived just over 200 years ago …
Shut the fucking gates and breed our own!
Immigrants’ [no apostrophe required] are raping our daughters and bashing our sons, claiming social security and raping our environment.
I don’t want to live in a multicultural society, that’s why we have different countries, so everyone can live in their own with their own fucking race.
Do the stats on Australian crime and immigrants are the majority.
These fuckers come from war torn countries and come here to escape it, but it[']s deep seeded [seated not seeded] in their heads and they bring it all here, fuck off all you Asians, Lebs, Muslims, Islanders and the like, your [you're not your] ruining our country, do a nationwide referendum (excluding the immigrants) and you will find the majority of us real Aussies don’t want you here, but our fucked up government would never do that, and keep brain washing our children with multi-cultural acceptance in our schools, it will come to our demise, this beautiful country is on a path to destruction.
The Cronulla riots are just a taste of things to come!
They are building Muslim schools and mosques and the fucking towel head mother fuckers are secretly planning attacks on innocent Australians within them.
Fucking Islam, and Ulla, get these cunts out of our country before it’s too late and some huge terrorism attack goes down at a major sporting event and wipes out 1000’s [no apostrophe required] of my brothers and sisters.
Their [They're not Their] all fucking terrorists in my eyes.
The Asians are down the beaches, raping our fish, putting every catch through their mincers, undersized fish, everything, stripping our rocks from any living crustacean, netting our rivers, taking everything.
Do some research on what the Asians are doing in North Aus, living in tree houses and stripping the rivers of our Mud Crabs and sending them to Japan and China, the females are considered a delicacy and even though it is illegal for an Aussie to take a Jenny (female mud crab) in NSW, the Asians can take as many of them as they want in Qld, then sell them back to us, and export them back to other Asians.
They have depleted all their own natural marine resources and now they’re here annihilating ours.
For [f]uck[']s sake, if we don’t put a halt to this environmental slaughter our country will be doomed.
Hey a multi culture [sic] society could be ok if we were importing disease free, educated and happy people, that contribute to our country and mix with the real Aussies that grew here ([n]ot [f]lew [h]ere) respected our way of life our laws our Christian beliefs, but we’re not!
Instead we are importing angry, diseased, war driven, Ulla worshiping, anti-Australian, anti-Christian, uneducated and environmental destroying scum.
I just hope the terrorist attack that will eventually happen in Australia, happen’s [sic] at a Government function.
Then these cunts may realize that multi-culturalism isn’t working!!!
SHUT THE FUCKING GATES!!! WERE FULL!!!
Nailbomb for Bombnail:
Violence is what you breed
Racism is what you breed
Hate is what you breed
What do you expect me to be?
Peace brother, fuck you bastard
I don’t need your false friendship
Freedom is a bunch of shit
This is a world of shit
Misery is what we see
Murder is what we see
Ignorance is what we see
What do you expect me to be?
Nailbomb = Max Cavalera (Brazil) Alex Newport (UK) Igor Cavalera (Brazil) Andreas Kisser (Brazil) Dino Cazares (US) D.H. Peligro (US) Evan Seinfeld (US) Rhys Fulber (Canada).
The point of remarking upon this may well escape you.
Btw, I seem to remember you dropping by at some previous stage, spouting the same li(n)es.
Don’t have a heart attack honey!
PS. Learn how: to spell / to construct a logical argument / to provide evidence for your claims.
Ahaha, Andy i am your fan. You are really good with words. I wish i was, but for now i am content reading yours. You know? i was always under the impression that with time human beings as species will evolve, but i was wrong. Look at these people acting worse than animals. It’s so unfortunate that Jesus sacrificed his life for scum like these. KARMA is unforgivable and unforgiving, always remember that. And soon it will be time to collect. And the best thing about Karma? one can not hide from it.
“The Asians are down the beaches, raping our fish.”
Thank you so much for this. I honestly haven’t laughed so much for a very very long time.
Why is the Left silent about Asians down the beaches raping our fishes?
It’s political correctness gone mad.
Haha I love you andy, but I’m pretty sure half these idiots wouldn’t be acting this way if it wasn’t for the anonymity of the internet. Still… good work owning them with logic and facts while they ramble on making up shit lol.
Not all aussies are like that. I’m australian and i should know. It is just the same as every other country. You shouldn’t be so quick to judge. Anyway i think that if you came to australia you would see that we aren’t all like that. I am proud to have people from different nations come to australia, many people in Australia have the same view as me. It is just a small few that think that way.
haya
I don’t blame you for your comments MD.
Don’t go to Perth, total strangers will swear at you as you walk the streets minding your own business.
I have been in Australia for 35 years and it’s been nothing but an uphill battle, at work they refuse to work with you because they feel threatened (migrants take jobs notion) or you are politically incorrect if you compete against the other gender and I have on more than one occasion found myself on the streets asking myself what did I do wrong?
I am now retired, I bought a block of land in the country and started building a house for myself and my wife, most of my neighbours are ok, but one said “I can please myself who I talk to”. I replied “I know, the novelty soon wears off…” She also said “If you call the police you’re in real trouble” after I caught a youth buying or selling drugs and another who stole some tools from my property. Did I get any recognition for my efforts? Nope, the Local Council served me with a notice to vacate my land IMMEDIATELY saying that I was affecting the amenities of the Neighbourhood! Queensland is known as “Redneck State” and Australians (80%) are known uneducated bigots and anti-academics who say “It’s not what you know but who you know that matters” and the only culture they have is the Football, Cricket, XXXX beer and Marijuana. Employment in some Public Service Departments is rife with Nepotism.
If you don’t have fair skin, blue eyes and blonde hair don’t come to Australia if you value your sanity…
See also some videos on YouTube, search on “Pr2jd2b”.
Australia is a country of immigrants, but the white Aussies just think that this island belongs to them only.
The fact is, the Britain send their convicts to here, killed the Aborigines and stole this island, and then even formed a so-called white Australia to against Asian people coming to this place.
Is this animal characteristics called ‘white pride, world wide’? Why the white Oz youths are grown like this in Australia? Like a bunch of conservative old farts?
Do you think Australia could survive without help from China and Japan? If the Chinese and Japanese suddenly stopped their investments in Australia, this British colony will be died.
I think the situation could be even worst than most people could envisage.
A few years ago I used to live in Murgon (Qld) and I suspected that a group of people there favoured the White Australia Policy and the KKK, and I was snabbed [?] when I mentioned this.
Sometime later, it was reported in the local media that Murgon Police had to deal with the problem.
Is Australia the ideal breeding ground for “Ethnic Cleansing”? Judging from the events in Cronulla and Manly Beach I would say yes, unless the Government decides to take these issues seriously rather than keeping up appearances for the sake of votes.
Will the Anti-Christ be an Anglo-Australian? Or is Ben Laddin a better candidate? Leave you to decide…
@ weez first of all, i believe the site “fuck off we are full” has been overrun by 1 person leaving the multiculturists with out a leg to stand on
@ everyone else, how can someone have an opinion who doesnt live in this country after reading that article that was clearly a one sided article that had no depth as to the truth (it didnt even mention why the riots started!)
what is happening in this country is what happend to america (a disaster)
multiculturist (do gooders) need to take a step back and have a look at what they are defending here. although it is turning into a racial matter, which is sickning, its most likly caused because people are angry that they have no say in their/their kids future. why shoudnt they be? why cant they have a say?
truth is there is room in australia, but the majority want it to stay that way, thats why its beautiful and not a overcrowded shithole, and as for the dickheads that say australians are lazy, get a fuckin life..australians are extremly hard working..wanting to work 5 days and enjoy the rest with your family/friends or just wanting to live life is lasy? dickheads, thats what makes this country better than most, we didnt have to revolve our life around work to pay the bills
the sad reality is muticulturism is destroying australia for many reasons. its the people vs the goverment and its greed, i can only hope..because if my children end up living in filth im going to be one angry australian
eye-on-immigration.blogspot.com
before anyone sais anything read this …all of it!
then maybe u will think again when u try to argue a point u dont have and jenny china japenese investors are part of the problem u uneducated idiot
do u think they would like there culture taken away from them?
i dought it
this is australian/aboriginal land
i hope all of u multiculturist DONT have a concience
u might be better off without it in 20 years time
oh and andy, although your opinion is respected, im not sure that critising someone elses opinion is, especially when you critisis them for not having facts and then go on with 3 paragraphs of dog shit (trying harder to be funny than put up a good arument). its not about skin colour its just the simple fact muticulturism doesnt work in such large numbers, it took me about a year to work that out. how long will it take u? i hope u consider this fact, because soon the australian culture will be a minority and u wont have a say.
aussie aussie aussie,
oi oi oi.
I’m not especially concerned about the fact that people who live in Australia come from or express different kinds of ‘culture’ (literally, ‘way of life’). Usually, when someone says ‘multicultural’ they mean ‘multi-ethnic’ or ‘multinational’ or ‘multiracial’ (note that ‘multi’ simply means ‘many’) — I’m not sure exactly what you mean when you use the term. In any case, what concerns me more than ‘multiculturalism’ are things like human rights, social justice, ecological preservation, and Collingwood winning at the footy. These sorts of things have long been part of Australian culture, and I don’t see them going away any time soon.
I think I saw a bit of nipple at 0:45
You see nipples everywhere Eric
maybe you should look up the definition of multicultural then get back to me.
dont manipulate my very straight forward, very simple words. culture is culture.
if you are so open minded about the people of the world, it shouldnt be to hard to comprehend this possibility. do you really believe anglo australians are the only problem in australia? who are u trying to kid? do u really think a whole country was born to be racist pieces of shit? nothing wrong with migration, we are a multicultural country. but we are NOT a precautious country, some people believe the lies. i just see greed, over crowded city’s, and a division between cultures that havn’t yet adapted to each other and at this rate prob never will, certain people will mix but the majority will stick to their own, and that goes for everyone, not just australians. people like you andy are good people, but we all know nice guys (countrys) finish last.
i would like for someone to give me a good example of where “muticulturism” or more importantly “mass migration” has been a success. enlighten me.
aussie,
oi.
i don’t have the ♥ today. in the meantime…
maybe you should look up the definition of multicultural then get back to me.
Put simply: you’ve stated that you oppose some thing called ‘multiculturalism’ because it’s literally destroying Australia, but you haven’t defined ‘multiculturalism’ or explained how it’s imperiling the country. So: define ‘multiculturalism’. What is ‘multiculturalism’, according to you? Secondly, explain how and why it’s destroying Australia. Be specific. Give examples.
do you really believe anglo australians are the only problem in australia?
No. Which is why I’ve never claimed to. Or to put it another way: I think that Australia has lots of ‘problems’, but what I think these ‘problems’ are, and how they might be fixed, is not necessarily what other people think. So for example: you think some thing called ‘multiculturalism’ is literally destroying Australia; when I think of things that are literally destroying Australia, I think of things like air, soil and water pollution, de-forestation, desertification, global warming, salination, soil erosion, species extinction and so on.
do u really think a whole country was born to be racist pieces of shit?
No. At least, I don’t think so. But then, I’m not sure exactly what you mean. If you actually read what the planners of the British colony that became Australia wrote about the convict population they sent here to colonise it, you’d be excused for thinking that they viewed these early ‘pioneers’ as being little better than pieces of shit — but I think that, in this context, what they were expressing was the contempt that the rich and powerful have for the poor, not racism. Beyond this, I’d suggest that, for most of its history, Australians — ‘Anglo’ Australians — have been informed by highly racialised forms of identity, of history and of society.
i would like for someone to give me a good example of where “muticulturism” [sic] or more importantly “mass migration” has been a success. enlighten me.
Again: depends on how you define ‘multiculturalism’, and what you mean by ’success’. As for mass migration: human beings have been criss-crossing the globe for millenia.
If you want to be enlightened, go to a library, borrow some books on multiculturalism, Australian history, environment and society, and read them.
Im not sure exactly what u need here to understand my point/opinion.
So from the start..it annoys me that you have this blog for one reason, it doesnt [state] any reason as to why the riots started. i dont like the way these kids got a point [across] but, i do understand why [their] frustration could lead to something so [inhumane].
If people are going to live around each other, doesnt it make sense that to some degree people should all be adapted to a similar culture? ([preferably] one similar to the culture of the country they are living in.) definition of culture below.
[Source]
This definition makes it very clear why people that ARE living very [separate] from each other, in one country, would not get along. (similar to how cool people only like cool people and dorks only like dorks.) and so you know, my opinion of “multicultural” is more than one of the definition above. simple.
When I say, do u really think anglo australians are the only problem in australia, i am saying, other cultures are also a problem, lol. simple again. but if u want me to go on, and this is just an opinion i have [visually] formed from living in one of [australia's] citys, some other cultures can be very fucking dangerous, especially the small gangs in the citys, they dont value life and dont give a fuck about yours. we take boat people in simply because its the australian way, the problem is, do these people have an attitude were they would do the same for us? they even throw there own kids overboard. so my guess is no..its a similar theory to nice guys finish last. (the australian attitude is always trying to be the good guy.) this is happening throughout australia and is a big part of the reason the [cronulla] riots started, its human nature, you can only push people so far, then [their] natural instinct will be to defend themselves. so if u like, people with different cultures are changing australias culture in a way that will take the good out of [their] culture/country. australians are now defending themselves.
I am aware of our history, i dont see the importance, i am defending our culture not white people. i dont care who comes here as long as the culture is respected, i do however see your point to do with the rich and the poor, which is another big problem in australia more so linked to the filthy scum that is in australias government. its why over 1 million people (mass migration) are moving to this country every year, there quality of life will go up, the everyday persons will go down.. it will throw the balance out.
did you [search] the link i tried to put up?, i dont need to be enlightened and i hate reading books.
Im not sure exactly what u need here to understand my point/opinion.
Thus far, what I understand you to be claiming is that some Thing called “multiculturalism” is Bad. Really Bad. In fact, so Bad that it threatens to destroy Australia. You also seem to think that immigration is Bad (but not as Bad as Multiculturalism).
So from the start..it annoys me that you have this blog for one reason, it doesnt [state] any reason as to why the riots started. i dont like the way these kids got a point [across] but, i do understand why [their] frustration could lead to something so [inhumane].
This passage is a little bit confusing: I didn’t start this blog to discuss what happened in Cronulla in 2005. But maybe you’re simply referring to this one post? If so: I refer to Cronulla because what happened there has been viewed by many as significant: it gave expression to a popular mood. Also because, in the article I quote from (Violence mars Australia’s national day celebrations, Bonnie Malkin, The Daily Telegraph, January 27, 2009), the author draws a comparison between what happened in Cronulla and the scenes at Manly beach four years later. What the two events have in common is the involvement of a relatively large number of yoof, a ridiculously large number of flags, alcohol, and racial abuse. In other words, both events express a common sentiment: ‘fuck off we’re full’. Beyond that, I’ve referred to ‘Cronulla’ on a few other occasions, and think Liz Jackson’s report for 4 Corners was a useful account.
If people are going to live around each other, doesnt it make sense that to some degree people should all be adapted to a similar culture? ([preferably] one similar to the culture of the country they are living in.)
Kinda sorta. I mean: if what you mean is, ‘in order to live together relatively peacefully, the members of any particular society should have some things in common’; yeah, I agree. What those things are — or should be — is the $64,000 question. That’s also why I’ve asked you to define “multiculturalism”, and to explain why you think it’s so Bad, it’s going to destroy Australia. Further, in explaining your reasons for thinking this, to provide reasons — and to give specific, concrete examples of how this Evil is having this effect.
Having said that, there are a number of definitions of “multiculturalism”. Given that our concern is Australia, a definition (one of several) provided by the Australian Government is appropriate (at least as a starting point). For example, in ‘A position paper by the Acting Race Discrimination Commissioner (2007)’, multiculturalism is defined in three different ways:
as a demographic descriptor;
as a set of norms;
as government policy.
The first definition simply describes a fact: Australians come from many different countries, speak many different languages, hold different religious and political beliefs, and so on and so on and so on.
Secondly, “In addition to being a demographic fact, multiculturalism can be seen as a set of norms or principles that uphold the right of the individual to retain, express and enjoy their culture. It also upholds the right of all individuals to have access to and participate in the social, cultural, economic and political life of the country to which they belong.”
Finally, “In many countries, including Australia, the norms of multiculturalism have been incorporated into a policy approach which seeks to recognise, manage, and maximise the benefits of diversity. As one commentator put it, ‘multiculturalism is a set of practical policies aimed variously at improving the absorption of migrants and harmoniously integrating a culturally diverse society around liberal democratic values.’ As such, multiculturalism is a conscious political and social choice made by the state and society in response to diversity.”
This policy, which has undergone various changes over time, was developed in response to mass migration to Australia following the end of WWII, and especially since the 1970s. But throughout the course of its development as government policy, ‘multiculturalism’ has always been expressed in terms of an underlying expectation that citizens adhere to some underlying values. Thus, as I’ve already noted above:
“The freedom of all Australians to express and share their cultural values is dependent on their abiding by mutual civic obligations. All Australians are expected to have an overriding loyalty to Australia and its people, and to respect the basic structures and principles underwriting our democratic society. These are: the Constitution, parliamentary democracy, freedom of speech and religion, English as the national language, the rule of law, acceptance and equality.”
Moar later.
This definition makes it very clear why people that ARE living very [separate] from each other, in one country, would not get along. (similar to how cool people only like cool people and dorks only like dorks.) and so you know, my opinion of “multicultural” is more than one of the definition[s] above. simple.
Your ability to Google a definition of the word ‘culture’, and to cut and paste this definition into a comment on my blog, demonstrates very little: it certainly doesn’t demonstrate why ‘multiculturalism’ is a disaster that threatens the very future of the country. You also appear to be confusing ‘culture’ with ‘multiculturalism’.
Again: What is ‘multiculturalism’, according to you? Secondly, explain how and why it’s destroying Australia. Be specific. Give examples.
When I say, do [you] really think [A]nglo [A]ustralians are the only problem in [A]ustralia, [I] am saying, other cultures are also a problem, lol. simple again.
OK. So what you’re saying is that there are problems in all cultures?
but if [you] want me to go on, and this is just an opinion [I] have [visually] formed from living in one of [Australia's] [cities], some other cultures can be very fucking dangerous, especially the small gangs in the [cities], they don[']t value life and don[']t give a fuck about yours.
I agree that gang culture can be dangerous, both to gang members and to those outside of gangs.
And?
When Christopher Wayne Hudson shot dead Brendan Keilar in June 2007, how was this evidence of the failure of multiculturalism? What about when Alphonse Gangitano shot Greg Workman (February 1995)? Did multiculturalism kill Alphonse Gangitano in 1998, or was it Jason Moran and Graham Kinniburgh? Who killed John Furlan and Charles Hegyaljie later that year? What about Vince Mannella, Danny Catania and Joseph Quadara? Or Dimitrios Belias and Vince’s brother Gerardo? Francesco Benvenuto? Richard Mladenich? Mark Moran? Dino Dibra? Was Victor Peirce a victim of multiculturalism, or could it have had something to do with drugs? What about Paul Kallipolitis? Nik Radev? Shane Chartres-Abbott? Jason Moran? Willie Thompson? Mark Mallia? Istvan “Steve” Gulyas (and his defacto partner)? When Michael Marshall was murdered in front of his son in October 2003, was Al Grassby really to blame? Why was Graham Kinniburgh killed later that year? Does the fact that Andrew Veniamin was shot dead by Domenic Gatto in a Carlton pizza restaurant signify the failure of the Italian community to assimilate Australian values, or do you you agree with the courts that Gatto acted in self-defence? Why was Lewis Moran murdered? Or Lewis Caine, or Terrence and Christine Hodson? Or…?
Maybe manufacturing and selling illegal drugs is a way of making lots of money, fast. Maybe the illegal drugs trade is a risky business, and control of it is exercised through violence. Maybe that’s all why all them people got murdered in Melbourne over the last decade — not because of ‘multiculturalism’. Also, why is the homicide rate in Melbourne around 2 per 100,000, while in Miami it’s 14.7? On the other hand, how do you account for the fact that:
Recently, two teenagers have been charged with the murder of Nitin Garg in January. Does murderous violence have something to do with yoof, perhaps? And why is it that the vast majority of murders are committed by men? Why is it that:
What does this have to do with ‘multiculturalism’, or the fact that you feel threatened by small gangs in the city?
‘Boat people’ are asylum seekers. Asylum seekers are people who wish to claim asylum status in Australia. The Department of Immigration assesses these claims, under the terms of the Migration Act 1958, and in accordance with international law.
That’s the theory, anyway.
Sometimes their claims are proven to the satisfaction of the Department (and the legal system). Sometimes they are not. Since 1992, “the Australian way” is to put asylum seekers in prison — either in cities, in deserts, or on islands off the north coast.
See :
http://www.hreoc.gov.au/human_rights/immigration/asylum_seekers.html
http://www.hreoc.gov.au/racial_discrimination/face_facts/chap3.html
http://www.immi.gov.au/media/fact-sheets/#humanitarian
Do asylum seekers believe that Australian citizens, should they require it, be able to apply for refugee status in other countries? Why don’t you find out?
Do ‘boat people’ / asylum seekers throw their children overboard? No, they do not. That’s a myth, manufactured by the Tories in the run-up to the Federal election in 2001, and has been fully exposed as such, by both a Senate inquiry and numerous others. The false accusation of refugees throwing their children over the side was made by John HoWARd, Philip Ruddock and Peter Reith on October 7, 2001.
it[']s a similar theory to nice guys finish last. (the [A]ustralian attitude is always trying to be the good guy.) this is happening throughout [A]ustralia and is a big part of the reason the [Cronulla] riots started, it[']s human nature, you can only push people so far, then [their] natural instinct will be to defend themselves. so if [you] like, people with different cultures are changing [A]ustralia[']s culture in a way that will take the good out of [their] culture/country. [A]ustralians are now defending themselves.
You make little sense. You also make unsupported assertions.
You appear to be claiming that trying to ‘do the right thing’ is a uniquely ‘Australian’ virtue — which is nonsense. Then you appear to be linking this idea — which is untrue, and just plain silly — with what happened at Cronulla. Given that you continue to believe politicians’ lies about asylum seekers throwing their kids overboard, I hate to think what you imagine ‘Cronulla’ was all about, but feel free to explain to me precisely what the drunken bozos were defending themselves from when they attacked the Bangladeshi students in their car, or why those guys on the train who got bashed deserved to be — and what, apart from walking around in the wrong-coloured skin, was their crime.
For the third time: What is ‘multiculturalism’, according to you? Secondly, explain how and why it’s destroying Australia. Be specific. Give examples.
I am aware of our history, [I] don[']t see the importance, [I] am defending our culture not white people. [I] don[']t care who comes here as long as the culture is respected, [I] do however see your point to do with the rich and the poor, which is another big problem in [A]ustralia more so linked to the filthy scum that is in [A]ustralia[']s government. [I]t[']s why over 1 million people (mass migration) are moving to this country every year, [their] quality of life will go up, the everyday persons will go down.. it will throw the balance out.
Where to begin?
If you don’t see the importance in studying and therefore knowing anything much about Australian history, you can hardly be in a position to talk meaningfully about its culture. Even — or perhaps especially — those people who claim to be Australian nationalists should take this kind of thing seriously.
You understand yourself to be defending ‘Australian culture’, but you’re unable to define it, or articulate what about it is valuable, how it should be defended, or from whom. The closest you’ve come to making any substantial claim about Australia and its culture is that Australians try to be good and to do the right thing. This may or may not be true. I’d suggest that some Australians do good, some Australians do bad, and that what is ‘good’ and what is ‘bad’ is subject to dispute. In any case, the quality of trying to do the ‘right’ thing is hardly unique to Australians.
In terms of history, you’re unaware that it was ’scum’ like John HoWARd, Philip Ruddock, and Peter Reith who lied about children overboard — and it’s their lies that you continue to believe. It’s also untrue that over one million people migrate to Australia every year, and I’ve no idea where you plucked that figure from. According to the Department of Immigration & Citizenship: “The planning level for the 2009–10 Migration Program is set at 168 700 places. The Humanitarian Program is set at 13 750 places.” That’s 182,450 people, not 1,000,000.
did you [search] the link i tried to put up?
Yes, I looked at the blog.
i don[']t need to be enlightened and i hate reading books.
I rest my case.
Oh goody. Aussies are conforming to the American worldview nicely. If it ain’t white, it’s fauna, eh?
before i go on. do you live in australia or have you lived in australia?
Iridium. i can only think of one thing i like about america and thats dave matthews
1. I can only think of one thing I like about America, and that‘s Dave Matthews.
2. You liking Dave Matthews explains a lot. If that’s the culture you mean to protect, you can keep it.
I have a solution. STOP BEING RACIST! You sound like a bunch of idiots. Just because someone has a darker skin tone, that doesn’t mean they’re going to have a bad attitude or be a bad person. Use common sense. I’m 16 and even I know that.
wow, u have managed to relate me liking dave mathews and culture you can use the shift button.. why bother wasting peoples time including your own.
Reesie.. i often wonder where racism comes from and how to make it go away, just as an example, Obama. if people want to rid of the fact that skin colour is of importance, why all the fuss over him being the first black president, to rid of the perception of that there is no difference between people, it shouldn’t be spoken about, thought about or be treated as out of the ordinary. black rappers are the worst for this always using the word nigger and talking about skin colour thoughout their songs. why can black people dance better than white people? maybe the reality is is that we are different. im not sure? but its really complicated when u think about it. do u really have a soloution? people cant stop a problem without talking about the problem. as i said to andy i support immagration its a wonderful oppertunity for people to become one. if this is done over a long period of time i believe it will work. but if large numbers of people move to one place it creates an opportunity for them to live with their own ideals of life, in the lower class of society this can be a very bad thing, especially when someone is raised/comes from a hostile environment. this is why i dont support mass migration. a few examples of problems it can cause (from my personal experiences) just for you andy, is.
1. there has been a few cases of muslims being offended by christmas carols in my local shopping centres.
2. when i was 15/16 i worked as a truckies offsider on saturdays, we were driving through inala, there was a chinese gang and another gang of islanders, about 30 in each gang on a school oval. smashing the life out of each other with baseball bats. apparently this is common in inala which is a predominatly black suburb.
3. when i was at schoolies an asian kid rudely demanded i give him a smoke, i told him to fuck off, 15 minutes later in the main street of the gold coast me and five friends were attacked by 20 asians most holding a knife. luckily we were out the front of a moterbike shop and a few bikies scared them off.
p.s. i highly doubt every white aussie is pure aussie. i no a lot of irish~australians and italian~australians so are you going to start distinguishing amongst that too? if you find pleasure in bringing people down because of their race, you truly are a pathetic loser with no life
who are u talking to reesie?
On O’Bama:
Not remarking on the very obvious fact that the 43 Presidents previous to O’Bama were white, and he is black, would not do much to combat racism in that country. In other words, the ‘fuss’ is — or was — for very obvious and quite unremarkable reasons. Further, not talking about something does not automatically make that something go away, and to believe otherwise is to engage in wishful thinking. On the other hand, you’re free not to care about the fact that the US has a black President. Or to contemplate the meaning of this.
On black rappers:
Like other pop *s, they say all kindsa crazy shit — it’s their job, and if record sales are anything to go by, millions of white suburban kids think they’re doing a pretty good one. In any case, use of the word ‘nigger’ by these rappers (and others) is an example of linguistic re-appropriation; one not without its problems, or one that meets with uniform approval.
Beyond this, something like 40,000,000 blacks — not all of them rappers — live in the US. Among these millions of people, there are all sorts of differences: cultural, religious, economic, political and social. It’s both a big picture and a long story. Historically speaking, however, it’s important to note that blacks — or African-Americans — have constituted an oppressed group. Sadly, you hate reading books, so you’ll never learn about this history, the origins and history of the term ‘nigger’, the relationship between US history and popular culture, social change, language use or indeed, much of anything else.
On Muslims offended by Christmas carols in your local shopping centre:
Uh-huh. And? If, as you claim, some unknown Muslims were offended by songs dedicated to someone they recognise as being a prophet, then all this demonstrates is that they’re human.
Human beings get offended by stuff.
But again: so what? This has nothing to do with ‘multiculturalism’, and hardly constitutes evidence that it’s destroying Australia.
On ethnic gang fights:
Yeah. Sad eh? But again: so what? What about the Melbourne 1843 Election Day Irish-Catholic-Australian Riot? Was this riot more or less important to nation and state formation that the fight you witnessed? Why (not)? Either way: it hardly constitutes evidence that Multiculturalism Is Destroying Australia.
Finally, I’m sorry to hear that some Asian guy and his mates tried to pick a fight with you. Obviously, arseholes come in all shapes, sizes and colours.
hey andy do one of those criminal lists for sydney in the last 20 yrs
ah wow almost forgot about this blog, what can i say andy u seem be good at manipulating what i say, believe it or not andy but most people have better things to do other than reading books..therefore what i say and the way i say it, is as if i am talking to the everyday person who i assume doesnt read books on history, and someone who forms an opinion through a quite simple method called opening there eyes..
obama was an example i used because i knew reesie would know what i was talking about, nothing more nothing less
why would i waste my time caring about the history of the word nigger? all i need to know is its a bad word and needs to stop being used
chistmas carols..it seems u have missed the very obvious point that i am making, moving into another country, and then being so fucked in the head (not to mention rude) u can change the culture of the country..i have muslim friends from school..is it just a coincidence that they also live with this idea in there head that the world does and will work how they want it to also, or would it just be better if i just said what im suppose to say (the do gooder way) that we are all just people and that we are all EXACTLY the same, and there is no coincidence?..like u said andy im only human, dont shoot me for stating the obvious
ethnic gang fights..the simple fact u had to go back to the 1800s says enough for me to bother
asian gang..yep u are right assholes do come in all shapes sizes and colours..but australians dont attack people with knifes for not giving someone a smoke and dont want it in their country
might i add, most of my work is based in the solomon islands, so i do understand what it is like to be the minority in a country.. to be called white shit.. have rocks thrown at me.. what do i do about it?.. respect them and their culture as all australians who work there are tought to do.. employ the locals.. do the best i can to understand them and there country.. most importantly.. change nothing they dont want us to
aussie aussie aussie.
oi oi oi.
To re-cap:
On June 9 you wrote “the sad reality is [muticulturalism] is destroying australia”. I asked you to define muticulturalism and to provide evidence to support your assertion. You’ve done neither.