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“The fact that we have teachers and doctors and women that knit, it’s a fantastic event politically for us. It’s going to show people that we’re not a bunch of skinhead morons, which is the left-wing media-created image.” ~ Nick Griffin
Bobby
Police reveal identity of PC on BNP list
The Press And Journal
November 20, 2008
A serving police officer facing investigation after being included in a list of British National Party members was last night named by Merseyside Police. Steve Bettley was in a list of thousands of BNP supporters which was leaked on an internet blog. His name was part of the main entry of a family member…
- Pc on BNP member list suspended, BBC, November 20, 2008: A Merseyside Police officer whose name was included on a list of British National Party (BNP) members has been suspended from duty. Pc Steve Bettley was listed in a leaked membership document published online. Merseyside Police specifically bans all its officers from membership of the BNP, Combat 18 and the National Front…
Teach
North-east ex-teacher on BNP list speaks out
Gillian Bell and David Perry
The Press And Journal
November 20, 2008
A retired teacher was wakened in the middle of the night and threatened and called a “Nazi pig” after his name appeared on a list of British National Party members posted on the internet. The man was one of almost 120 people from the north and north-east linked to the far right organisation by the leaked document. Last night, the 63-year-old denied he was a member of the party and said he knew nothing about his name being included in its membership list until he was contacted by the media. The man – who lives in Aberdeenshire but asked not to be identified – said he had attended a BNP event during the run-up to council elections, during which one of its candidates gave a speech…
Maps
Heat rises over UK’s web map of fascists
Asher Moses
The Age
November 20, 2008
Right-wing extremists across Britain are bracing for violent repercussions after the British National Party’s entire membership list was leaked on the internet. And tech-savvy web users plotted members’ addresses in red on a Google Map… Ironically, the BNP is relying on Britain’s Human Rights Act, which it opposes, to protect the privacy of its members…
Hey Mr DJ
Rod Lucas: ‘I only joined BNP for a story’. (He also only invited Nick Griffin on his show for teh lulz.) There is also a statement on his ‘OFFICAL’ website.
Royal flunkeys and men of God
2 Royal flunkeys exposed as BNP members
Brian Flynn, Simon Hughes and John Troup
The Sun
November 20, 2008
TWO Royal servants were among 12,000 people named yesterday on a secret list of British National Party members. Buckingham Palace storeman Paul Murray, 52, and a retired palace porter are both on the roll of shame. The naming of the two trusted aides is a massive embarrassment for the Royals… A vicar, the Rev Dr Paul Barker, has threatened to sue the BNP for failing to keep his details safe. BNP leader Nick Griffin admitted the list was genuine, saying it contradicted the idea that the average member “was a skinhead oik”. Home Secretary Jacqui Smith insisted the fact that many BNP members were unhappy to be outed showed how shaming it was to be linked with the party.
Whales
170 people in North Wales listed as BNP members
Steve Bagnall
Daily Post
November 20, 2008
MORE than 170 people from North Wales were named as members of the far right British National Party on a leaked membership list. They include a former police officer, an ex-Tory councillor, a former social worker, a former North Wales Ambulance worker, and a Christian lay preacher…
F***ing questions!
Exclusive: Retired police chief named as BNP member
John Ferguson
Glasgow Daily Record
November 20, 2008
A RETIRED police chief inspector has been exposed as a BNP member. Scots pensioner Charles Reid‘s name was on a list of activists leaked on the internet this week. But when the Record contacted him, he tried to distance himself from the racist British National Party. Reid, from Glasgow, said: “I’m not answering any of your f***ing questions. I haven’t been a BNP member for three years. I’m not telling you whether I was a policeman – it’s none of your business.” Reid changed his story when he called back, saying: “I am not a BNP member – I went to a BNP meeting once to find out what it was all about and I might have put my name down somewhere.”
Whinging pommy bastards
Visa ban likely as BNP membership list leaks
The West Australian
November 20, 2008…Among the Australian BNP members is former One Nation candidate for the South Australian Federal seat of Boothby [and South Australian Scrabble champion], Daniel Piechnick, who is described as an “activist” on the list. [In 2001, Daniel gots 2,151 votes, or 2.63%; a reduction of 4.13% from 1998.]
Mr Piechnick, a 28-year-old web designer, told The West Australian yesterday his one-year membership of the BNP had expired and that he had joined the BNP only so he could study the way the party functioned.
“BNP was like One Nation but it was properly run and had a sensible leader,” he said. “It’s what One Nation should’ve been if One Nation had been more like the BNP, it would have been very successful.” Mr Piechnick said he did not agree with all of BNP ’s policies, but he said: “Immigration is not being managed properly, you can have immigration but if it’s too fast and it’s all to one place there’s not enough capacity for assimilation.” Alex Trussler, an English migrant and now a Sydney plumber, said he was not ashamed of his BNP membership, arguing right-wing political groups were on the rise around the world and Australia was no different.
British-born Queenslander Arthur Grice, 59, said he was also very proud of being a BNP member: “It’s got nothing to do with race, it’s a culture thing, about being British,” he said.
The two Perth-based members [Robert C and Keiran D] could not be contacted…
Nazis. I hate those guys.
About
Nick Griffin has lost his membership list. Let us LOL at him. Idea started by Chris aka @qwghlm on Twitter. Some are by him, the rest by anonymous friendly contributors (you can tell which ones they are as they’re actually funny). Show us your LOLGriffins: use the hashtag #lolgriffin on Twitter and we’ll see it.
See also : BNP vs. 4chan | The Good Ship BNP is a Leaky Vessel | “Book Club” meeting goes awry (October 9, 2008) | Nick Griffin Down Under? (September 22, 2008) | Nick Griffin Bound for Botany Bay? (September 11, 2008)
When Antifa jumps the shark
Are Antifa and Slackbastard now in favour of having people sacked because of their political beliefs? That seems to be the result of the outing of BNP members that their websites are celebrating.
Militant street level anti-racism like that detailed in the compelling read No Retreat by Tilzey and Hann has traditionally been targeted at groups and individuals that practice intimidation and violence against immigrants.
The BNP may have plenty of ex-boneheads in its ranks but it isn’t organising in the way that the National Front did. It’s targeting elections. You may find its policies abhorrent but it is not employing thuggery and intimidation as an organising tool. In fact, some of its electoral success is down to the fact that it has become more ‘respectable’.
Racism hasn’t abated in the UK, far from it, and racist violence is common, a notable example being the axe murder of Anthony Walker in Liverpool by Joey Barton’s brother. Organised bonehead-style thuggery is out though. You’d be game to get around an English city these days with white power written on the back of your bomber jacket. There are plenty more coloured kids around and they are much more assertive than they used to be.
The are some parallels with Australia. Unpleasant as the notion of a few boneheads getting together here and there for a beer, a seig heil and some shitty music is, racist street gangs are not on the march, thankfully. Who would want to be a white power skinhead walking through Parramatta when a WRX full of Lakemba’s finest comes around the corner?
In Europe the scene is different with hardly a weekend going by without antifa and besieged immigrant kids rearranging the street furniture in a picturesque city square.
It’s good to keep anti-racism alive and kicking on the web but chatroom wars with boneheads are boring. On a more serious level, people should consider if outing members of political parties and publishing people’s addresses to enable reprisals is a road left wing anarchists should be going down.
Do you think someone should be sacked from a job in the public service for being a member of a legal political party?
G’day Rocky,
I dunno about Antifa (by which I presume you mean Antifa England). Whatever concerns you have about their approach/position would be best broached with them directly. On a side-note, Antifa England is an anti-fascist organisation comprised of a number of individuals — Slackbastard is just the name of my blog and, apart from extremely rare guest posts, consists of my own thoughts and opinions. So: I think drawing an equivalence between the two is problematic. (Leaving aside the fact that Antifa is a UK-based organisation, whereas I blog from Melbourne, Australia.)
Regarding Antifa’s response to the leakage, here’s what’s been posted online so far:
I’ve read this entry over, and while there’s certainly glee, there doesn’t appear to be a demand for BNP members to be sacked. Rather, the entry simply takes note of the fact that “a number of cops, teachers, screws, social workers, and members of the armed forces… could very well now be sacked for being members of this discriminatory racist party”.
As far as I’m aware, this is certainly true of serving police officers — membership of the BNP is against police regulations, and a sackable offence — but I don’t know if the same applies to “teachers, screws, social workers, and members of the armed forces”.
Regarding membership of the BNP by members of the armed forces, my understanding is that serving members are free to belong to (legal) political parties, but are not permitted to campaign on their behalf or to hold office. Regarding teachers, a recent article would seem to suggest that there’s no legal basis for dismissing a teacher on account of their membership of the party. See : ‘No teachers will be sacked over BNP membership’, Gordon Rayner, The Daily Telegraph, November 20, 2008: “None of the teachers named as members of the British National Party on a leaked membership list will be sacked or disciplined, the profession’s disciplinary body has said”.
On my own response: I don’t give a rat’s arse for the careers of BNP members. On the other hand, I don’t think the fact that someone is a fascist means that they should necessarily lose their job. By the same token, I don’t believe that employers should have the right to dismiss employees simply on the basis that they don’t like their politics (that is, their ideas). On the third hand, I can see how belonging to a racist party like the BNP (an allegation which it naturally denies) could present problems in terms of the ability of employees (such as ‘cops, teachers, screws and social workers’) to perform their duties, especially when these are positions of authority, and the individuals over whom this public authority is exercised aren’t — unlike the BNP’s vision of a racially pure Britain — all White.
In summary: apart from PC Dickhead, I believe it’s unlikely too many others will face dismissal. A more likely outcome, for some, is keen embarrassment, and social ostracism.
More later.
He (and it usually is a he) is likely to be a John, David or Paul living in Nottingham
Jonathan Richards
The Times
November 20, 2008
About four fifths of the members on the leaked BNP list are men and the most common names are John, David and Paul. Those three names accounted for just over 1,000 of the 12,801 names on the list. Susan was the most popular female name. The postcode with the highest number of party members was NG16 – in northwest Nottingham – with 57. Among the more common professions listed by members are electrician, security consultant, former serviceman and IT specialist.
The data on the list was scrutinised by The Times, revealing a clear picture of the geographical spread. Two hotspots of membership emerged, around Leicester and Birmingham. The list was divided initially into postal districts, of which there are more than 2,000. About a quarter of the 2,166 postal districts in which registered BNP members say that they live had only one member. Only 20 had 30 or more.
Cross-referencing the list with socioeconomic data proved even more fruitful. According to analysis of the list by the Dr Foster health consultancy, which used social deprivation data from the Office for National Statistics, only 5 per cent of the party’s members live in areas with high Asian populations and only 2 per cent in areas with larger Afro-Caribbean communities. Eighteen per cent are from white working-class areas.
The analysis also shows that BNP membership is higher in areas that have average or above-average deprivation. As opposed to the 22 per cent of BNP members who live in areas with above-average deprivation, only 16 per cent live in the least-deprived areas.
About 1,000 BNP members described themselves as “activists”, including one who noted that he or she made “kites with BNP logos etc” and another who specified “discretion requested”.
After John, David and Paul, the next most popular names are Michael (330), Robert (262) and Peter (261). Susan was 51st on the list.
Hey @ndy, who makes those pics like at the top of the post (the ‘oh noes’ one)? I assume British antifa?
That’s a clever way of using propaganda. It’s efficient, w/ no costs involved and little time needed, but it also targets people beyond the activist circles. If you have any links to that stuff I’d love to have them.
Cheers,
PF
LOL GRIFFIN
Fun for the whole family!
Rocky,
More generally.
I agree with you that the BNP of 2008 is not the NF of 1978 — this much, summarised as ‘suits not boots’, has been remarked upon by many. Insofar as the BNP still constitutes a fascist organisation, anti-fascist activity must respond accordingly. That is, insofar as the BNP has shifted its focus from controlling the streets to achieving success via the ballot box, ‘street-level’ anti-fascism of the sort described by Hann and Tilzey in No Retreat is of limited effect. This shift is otherwise known as ‘mainstreaming’; that is, attempting to more effectively tailor the Party’s imagery and policies to what is understood as being its potential support base. Hence Nick Griffin’s attempt to place a positive spin on the leakage of his Party’s membership list: “we’re not a bunch of skinhead morons”. This is correct: boneheads constitute a small minority of BNP members.
Regarding the BNP and fascism, I think Geoffrey Brown’s article ‘Why the BNP is Still Fascist’ (What Next?, No.31, 2007) is useful:
Regarding the activities outlined in No Retreat, I think it would be more accurate to state that these activities were ‘militant street level anti-fascism’, not ‘militant street level anti-racism’, although there is obviously a close relationship between the two. Further, the book ends at around roughly the same time that AFA was winding up, partly in response to changing tactics on the part of organised fascists in the UK. So: I think those belonging to the ‘militant street level’ anti-fascist tradition were among the first to recognise the changing political landscape, and the pages of Fighting Talk (for example) are full of debate and discussion on this and related issues.
Regarding parallels in Australia, see Cronulla, and the Southern Cross Soldiers.
“The BNP may have plenty of ex-boneheads in its ranks but it isn’t organising in the way that the National Front did. It’s targeting elections. You may find its policies abhorrent but it is not employing thuggery and intimidation as an organising tool. In fact, some of its electoral success is down to the fact that it has become more ‘respectable’.”
BNP: A party of convictions
Kirklees Unity
March 7, 2007
Also: June 2008 Former BNP member Martyn Gilleard. ‘Right-wing paedophile bomb-maker jailed for 16 years’, Tim Castle, June 25, 2008. “LONDON (Reuters) – A right-wing extremist and paedophile who wanted to “secure a future for white children” and kept explosives at his Yorkshire flat was jailed for 16 years on Wednesday. Martyn Gilleard, 31, from Goole, had been found guilty at Leeds Crown Court on Tuesday of preparing terrorist acts and of collecting information useful for an act of terrorism. He had pleaded guilty at earlier hearings to possessing live ammunition and 39,000 indecent images of children. On Wednesday he was jailed 11 years for the terrorism and ammunition charges, 12 months for the child images and given another four years because of the danger he posed to the public, a police spokeswoman said. Officers conducting a child pornography raid last October had discovered racist literature, home-made bombs, knives and a rifle at Gilleard’s flat. Among the material seized were membership cards for the National Front, British People’s Party and the White Nationalist Party…”
Thanks @ndy for the link. It looks like an isolated incident rather than a significant change in propaganda tactics, but I’ve sent it off to some of the people in Politics and English/Communications who may be interested. If you find any other sites or any evidence that these images are being created and used more often (including from the fash side) I’d love to hear about it.
Cheers,
PF
Good to see the BNP have their knickers in a twist and are literally shitting bricks over this.
The only good nazi is a fucking dead one.