Update : September 25, 2008: A good (if typically flawed) biography of Ian and Skrewdriver, ‘The Legacy of Ian Stuart’, Fat Richard Warwick, Swindle, No.3. Note that while German label Rock-O-Rama — on which Skrewdriver released an album (Hail The New Dawn) and single (Invasion/On The Streets) in 1984 — has since evolved into Belgian label Pure Impact, a fascist-sympathising businessman, Herbert Egoldt, remains at the helm (if in the shadows). Note too that ex-Skrewydriver bassist Murray Holmes is back playing gigs Down Under with The Quick & The Dead, and with the support of local (Perth) punk band The Homicides.
- Above : Front cover image, No Retreat: The Secret War Between Britain’s Anti-Fascists and the Far Right
Neo-Nazi skinhead Ian Stuart Donaldson (b.1957) was killed in a car accident in 1993, and ever since he’s a been a subject of veneration — well, for a handful of other boneheads anyway — as well as derision (everyone else). Before he died a long-overdue death, however, Stuart managed — as the founder of Blood & Honour and vocalist for Skrewdriver — to earn himself a reputation as being one of England’s most notorious boneheads… as well as being among the top one hundred of the finest musicians to ever come out of Blackpool with-a-Grammar-school-education and to then die-in-a-car-accident-in-1993.
In an interview in some zine or other, Stuart is alleged to have remarked (before his death… presumably) that:
I am not the type of person to creep and crawl to a bunch of weak-kneed, pacifist lefties and two-faced Zionists. One must be honest to people about one’s beliefs and especially when the survival of our very race is at stake. I have no doubt that anyone who expounds patriotic beliefs has a little black mark put against his name, and by now I must have a massive black mark near my name. C’est la guerre.
Mad as a cut snake, obviously.
But that wasn’t all there was to Stuart. For, as well being quite a daft bugger and a god-awful musician,* he was also a coward and a bully:
Following the events of May 27 [1989: B&H stupidly tried to hold a gig in London — ‘The Main Event’ — and got their arses kicked by Anti-Fascist Action], Ian Stuart left his house in King’s Cross and moved to Derbyshire. [AFA] heard rumours that the Chelsea Headhunters were trying to muscle in on on the [B&H] cash cow and were making threatening noises in his direction. There was, however, another reason for his swift departure from London, and that was the activities of a certain ex-Manc by the name of Hefty who harassed and attacked the [B&H] leader at every given opportunity.
The area around King’s Cross and Euston was bandit country. Lone fascists, small groups of [neo-Nazis] and even whole firms came to grief in the streets around the two stations. Hefty and a few other lads, namely AJ, Carl, Pete G, and Gavin, used to operate around that area and chanced upon Stuart on a number of occasions. They gave him and his followers a few serious hidings at various times, but the event that seemed to give Stuart the real horrors was when he went out early one morning to buy a newspaper and a pint of milk, and was hit across the head by a large Mancunian wielding a Lucozade bottle. Ian Stuart was a coward and a bully. He liked to throw his weight around when the odds were in his favour, but when confronted on any number of occasions by AFA lads he legged it and left his comrades to face the music…
[NB: “The Headhunter heyday was back in the mid-1980s when Steven Hickmott led the group… Hickmott was eventually picked up by police in the country’s first undercover football operation. Sentenced to ten years for organising violence (later overturned after police evidence was questioned), Hickmott was replaced with Chris “Chubby” Henderson, a long-time [neo-Nazi] activist and singer with the Oi band Combat 84.” Locally, Combat 84 — alongside of Condemned 84 and a number of other racist/fascist Oi! bands — is available through Deadset Music.]
Stuart also had the privilege in his too-long life of being a failed businessman: between 1987 and 1989, AFA managed to close down the few shops in Carnaby Street scabby enough to actually stoop to selling his music and merchandise, leaving his few fans unhappy shoppers… and B&H humiliated.
Below is an account of ‘The Battle of Waterloo’ by a former member of Manchester AFA, Dave Hann; the battle between boneheads and antifa taking place the very last time Skrewdriver tried to play London, and a little over twelve months before Stuart made his final descent into Hell.
Curiously, it’s a little known fact that, at the time of his death, Derby Coroner Peter Ashworth concluded:
We are still no nearer finding out what caused this tragic accident. All we can say is that, whatever his parent’s defects, Stuart became less easy to control. But there must have been some other factor which contributed to the crash, even if Ian had not grabbed the wheel in a way many others in the same situation would never have done.
So, as we remember Ian the Bonehead, we should also remember all the other Boneheads.
And send them our very best wishes.
STAGE BOTTLES – Dead But Not Forgiven
- Ian couldn’t drive a car
As we all know
He trusted too much in all his gods
And though he was a human being
We don’t feel any sorrow for him
Now we got rid of one of those cunts
He’s been one of our most important enemies
So we forget our respect for life
Cause all he did was senseless shit
[…]
Now we’re here and having our fun
Having our fun and thinking about him
He’s been the one who misused the word Skinhead
He himself was never one – he was a fucking Bonehead
[*Some conspiracy theorists maintain that ‘the Jews’ are ‘the ones what are responsible’ for not only Stuart’s ‘accidental’ death but his ‘deliberate’ birth too; seemingly on the basis that his music — being so unbearably mediocre — was devised solely in order to discredit the bonehead image, and to ruin the cottage White Power? Give ‘Em A Golden Shower! muzak industry that was borne in his flatulent wake.]
The Battle of Waterloo, September 12th, 1992
In August 1992, posters proclaiming “Skrewdriver Back in London” were spotted in various parts of the country. They were advertising a Blood and Honour [B&H] concert due to take place in London on September 12. At first we assumed it was a hoax, as Skrewdriver hadn’t even attempted to play in London since The Main Event, but as time went by it became obvious that it was anything but a hoax.
The concert was once more touted to be a massive affair, with up to 2,000 [neo-Nazis] expected to attend and several bands playing, including Skrewdriver, Skullhead, No Remorse and a Swedish band called Dirlewanger. There was a rumour flying about that a mainstream music promoter was willing to seriously back [B&H] if the gig proved a success and any opposition was muted or destroyed. Once again the gig was at a secret location with a re-direction point, which this time was at Waterloo Station at 5.30pm. We heard on the grapevine that both the BNP and the British Movement (BM) had been approached to help with security for the event.
By coincidence, a week before the concert the AFA’s Unity Carnival was due to take place on Hackney Downs in London. A request was made for stewards to attend from around the country in case the fash tried a pre-emptive strike, but nothing untoward happened and the carnival passed off peacefully. Maybe the fash were hoping that if they left us alone, we would leave them alone. Fat chance.
The carnival was cold and rain-swept, but at least it gave us a chance to alert an already interested audience to the following weekend’s events. In the meantime, London AFA contacted all the various anti-racist and anti-fascist groups with details of what was to happen at Waterloo, but no-one seemed interested. The ANL suddenly decided that they were holding a march in Thornton Heath, more than fifteen miles away. So it looked like we were on our own, but then we never seriously expected anything else.
Neil Parrish, who had become one of [B&H]’s main organisers, boasted to the media that he would be available at 4.30pm on the station concourse to give interviews. A Sky News reporter was worried that he wouldn’t be able to find the bones and was told that as they were expecting between 1,000 and 2,000 at the station, “you’ll have no trouble finding us”. By a strange coincidence, 4.30pm was when London AFA announced that they were also calling a counter-demonstration at the station.
We took about twenty stewards down from Manchester. All the usual suspects were present, including Gerry, Steve, Wigan Mike, Gary the Axe, Solo, Big Dave and the rest. We eventually arrived in the Smoke at 1pm and met up with the London AFA lads in a pub on the Holloway Road. AFA groups from around the country were arriving all the time, swelling numbers to about 200. The atmosphere was tense because everyone knew that this was the big one. It really was a case of do or die. We had a fair-sized mob out that day, with good numbers from Liverpool, Doncaster and London itself, but it looked tiny in comparison to what I knew we could expect to find at Waterloo.
I tried to push all thoughts of what lay ahead to the back of my mind. I was nervous and tense but did my best to appear laid back and unconcerned. Sometimes it just hits you like that. Sometimes you’re really buzzing and up for it, while at others you get a queasy feeling in the pit of your stomach. Either way you have to force yourself to stay cool, especially when you are in a position where other people are relying on you to keep a clear head.
At 3.20pm, AFA’s Stewards’ Group appeared on the station concourse at Waterloo, causing a number of bones to flee for their lives. Three boneheads drinking in the station were set upon. The police tried to push their way through the AFA mob crowding at the entrance to the bar in an attempt to arrest those inside, and in doing so missed the guilty parties making good their escape through another exit not ten feet away. We heard rumours afterwards that these first casualties were in fact plainclothes police sent to Waterloo to infiltrate [B&H].
Both Steve and Gerry were involved in early exchanges with the [neo-Nazis], but Gerry hurt his hand punching someone on the side of the head. He spent the rest of the afternoon complaining about it. “I think I’ve broken ma fuckin’ knuckle”, he moaned.
More boneheads were attacked as they entered the station, and the police were forced to cordon off the [neo-Nazis] in the middle of the station concourse. Along with several other AFA stewards I infiltrated the cordon. Once inside I sidled up behind the biggest bonehead I could find and started kicking him surreptitiously in the back of the ankles.
“You’re going to die when we get out of here”, I whispered into his ear.
He tried to ignore me, but he was shaking like a leaf.
“Did you hear me, you baldy wanker?” I goaded. “When we get out of here I’m going to kill you.”
All the colour had drained out of him and for a moment I thought he was going to faint. His misery was brought to an end when the police decided to escort the [neo-Nazis] out of the station to safety, but once outside, and out of view of the CCTV cameras, they were astonished when their escort suddenly imploded from within as the anti-fascists turned on the boneheads. The bonehead I was goading earlier had shot off like a rabbit, and I only managed to land a couple of glancing blows on the back of his head.
This scenario was re-enacted several times over the next hour and a half as we continued to resist police attempts to force us off the station concourse. While this game of cat and mouse was going on, other groups of anti-fascists were ambushing boneheads coming up the escalators from the tube station.
I was arrested by the Transport Police at Waterloo Station during one of these scuffles, but for some reason I was never charged with anything, and to my surprise they released me an hour or so later with a warning to leave the immediate area or risk being arrested again. I ignored the warning of course. There was no way I was going to miss this.
The Transport Police at Waterloo Station have a little office at the side of the concourse, and I basically took two steps out of the front door and I was smack bang in the middle of a full-scale riot again. Boneheads were still being chased and battered everywhere you looked, and the police had completely lost control of the situation.
By 5pm, there were nearly 1,000 anti-fascists on the concourse and fights were still breaking out all over the place. Shortly afterwards, the station was shut down at the request of the manager, freeing AFA from the responsibility of holding the concourse any longer and allowing us to surge out into the streets to confront the groups of boneheads mobbing up outside. Neil Parrish was nowhere to be seen.
Everywhere you looked boneheads were being battered and chased. A group of fifty right-wing casuals got themselves trapped under a footbridge, and despite being surrounded by riot police they came under attack from all sides, including an aerial bombardment of broken quarry tiles from the footbridge above…
Elsewhere, individuals and small groups arriving on foot or by car were picked off as they approached the station. One carload of bones was trapped when the driver made the unfortunate mistake of leaving his window wound down, providing an opportunistic anti-fascist with the chance to reach in and turn his engine off and remove the keys before the vehicle was attacked. The immobile car was nearly turned over.
I saw one panic-stricken bonehead run the entire length of the street with his arms covering his head to protect himself. A sensible enough precaution except for the fact that he couldn’t see where he was going and kept running into groups of anti-fascists who gave him the occasional dig as he ran past them. Eventually someone put him out of his misery and tripped him up. I caught him a beauty as he fell, my boot going upwards as he was falling forwards. Within seconds he was unconscious.
Four stations had now been shut down in the area due to “rioting”, including Charing Cross, making it difficult for anyone to reach Waterloo, although a large mob of bones arrived on foot via the footbridge across the Thames. They soon wished they hadn’t as they immediately came under attack. A number of football supporters from various clubs, including Arsenal, QPR, Millwall and Chelsea also found their way to the area and joined one side or the other according to their political beliefs.
The football supporters mostly arrived at Waterloo in ones or twos, or in small groups. Some were attempting to make their way home after the match, while others were attracted to the area by radio reports of the rioting. Millwall and Chelsea arrived mob-handed. Chelsea, as expected, were pretty much on the side of [B&H]. The situation with Millwall was less clear-cut. Everyone expected them to be 100 per cent behind the fash but when one of Millwall’s main men was approached by Nicky Cooper of the NF pleading for help on [B&H]’s behalf, he got more than he bargained for. He was apparently sent sprawling by a vicious punch and told, “We’ve come to kick their heads in, not go to their fucking stupid gig”. However, another well-known face at Millwall, “Tags” or “Taggart”, collapsed with a heart attack in the middle of the fascist ranks after coming under an anti-fascist bombardment of bricks and paving slabs.
Skirmishes continued all around Waterloo as the [neo-Nazis] and their police escorts came under concerted attack by large numbers of anti-fascists. The police did not know what to do with their escorts and the fascists themselves did not know where the venue was because Neil Parrish and the rest of the organisers were sat in a pub at Victoria Station. When phone calls were made by the trapped fascists to the organisers demanding that they either be given the venue details or be rescued, they were told that they should try to make their way to Victoria where they would be told the location of the gig…
Eventually the police managed to get things under control and escorted the remaining fash to Temple tube station where they were put on a commandeered train out of the area. In the end, less than 400 got into the gig at the Yorkshire Grey pub in Eltham, south-east London. The anti-fascists, meanwhile, were broken up into small groups by the police, cordoned off and escorted on foot across the Thames towards central and north London…
The papers the next morning all carried reports of the “Battle of Waterloo” and on the whole the reports were fairly accurate, except for the Sunday Times, which attributed the whole thing to the Anti-Nazi League [an SWP front oganisation]. This might have been because the ANL actually sent out a press release claiming responsibility. On a similar note, I cannot let the occasion pass without mentioning a small lefty sect by the name of Workers’ Power, who amid all the carnage and rioting at Waterloo, actually tried to do a paper sale!
On a foggy night in [September] 1993, Ian Stuart died in a car-crash in Derbyshire. His death opened the door for Combat 18 to muscle in on the Blood and Honour cash cow.
Source : No Retreat, pp.193-199
What if the heroes are drunkdrivers?
He’s not dead. He’s hanging out with Elvis, Princess Diana and Steve Irwin.
Ian was your hero, Harry. And he’s really dead. 20/20.
AoA interviewer: But it’s true that Malcolm X at times called whites “blue-eyed devils,” and espoused violence as a means to meet an end.
Maya Angelou: There was a time when Malcolm espoused the belief that all whites were “blue-eyed devils.” But he took his life in his own hands when he said, publicly, that he had been to Mecca, and there he saw blonde, blue-eyed men whom he could call brothers.
http://www.achievement.org/autodoc/page/ang0int-4
farrakhan and friends
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Farrakhan#Neturei_Karta
VERITAS IS RIGHT
“@ndy”… no intelligible responses huh? Can’t really combat “TRUTH” and “FACTS”.
“take1” you may as well commit suicide because you already basically have.
You’ve lost your sense of identity and that’s exactly why whites are in this shitty position in the first place. Liberal educators have brainwashed you into believing you’re guilty for the colonial actions of your ancestors. They have also pushed the communistic “Equality” concept way too far… as Ian Stuart would put it, “creating a world of sighs”. How appropriate. It’s sooo very obvious that we are not all created equal.
check out this on google images:
worldfamilies.net/migration_map_wfn.gif
If you can’t find it, then search for “DNA map” on google images.
This shows the genetic diversity of our subspecies… which should be preserved.
One gray race would be so boring.
markn pages / fortay,
The IDEA that USING CAPITAL LETTERS makes for more convincing ARGUMENTS is TRULY FASCINATING, if tragically FLAWED.
Tip: Learn to use basic logic. Study some basic political philosophy.
If unsure, ask a grown-up for help.
Oh Fortay, you are what is known in scientific circles as “a total fucking moron”. I think Einstein might have coined that term, but I’ll have to check.
It is a fact that 84.4% of all genetic diversity is found between individuals and 90% between individuals on any given continent. (See here for the reference). Less than 10% of this diversity is found between races (that is all races). To maintain the genetic diversity you seem to crave would mean suppressing and screening individuals, not entire races, from interbreeding.
A way of putting it that a fucktard such as yourself can understand, is that there is more genetic variance between two random people than there are between two individuals from different races. Here is the science.
Or, even simpler, if all of the world was wiped out except for a remote village in Africa at least 84.4% of the world’s genetic diversity would survive (it would possibly be higher though: Africans have a greater genetic diversity (between 5 and 10% than people of other continents). If Melbourne were to survive (fingers crossed), at least 90% would be preserved.
I know you are a moron, so I’ll spell it out: that is the genetic diversity, not the total number of genes. “Race” as you conceive it is a fantasy and a very poor excuse to get shit tattoos.
Don’t you feel embarrassed? You show a map with some squiggly lines and talk of grey people and I nearly squirt beer out of my nose laughing at your attempt at book smarts. Hitler was right about one thing: racists should kill themselves.
ISD is taking 14 black cocks in the arse in hell. This study was peer-reviewed and my findings are based on cold hard facts and irrefutable data I have compiled.
Are you saying there are black people in hell, Vents?
Is it wrong to enjoy interracial pornography more than non-race traitor porn? That is the real question we should be asking.
Another question is why are they apparently still getting ice cream crunchies in Perth when that is my favourite ice cream and you can’t buy them here. THE FUCKING ZOG MACHINE 18 44
ANTI-FA FAG!!!
[Repeat]
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again; Vents has his finger on the pulse of suburbia.
The Crunchie ice-cream/ZOG connection has been talked around the dinner tables of this wide brown land for years, but the chattering classes have been suppressing it because of PC madness. Did you know the Paddle Pop Lion is a Jew? That explains everything that was fought for in the Cronulla uprising and I therefore deem this conversation to be over.
ISD 4 EVA IDT INDT* ROFL BBQ Bicentennial ’88!
*If Destroyed True, If Not Destroyed True
Estos logis no se cansan de la misma gilada y trasnochada de siempre.
Yo creo que el fantasma de reconocer que fantasean con un viejo muerto que era un depravado asexuado y cobarde los hace repetir las imbecilidades que sostienen.
Nazis cobardes sean de donde sean, los esperamos a la salida de la tribuna verde a ver si la aguantan.
Saludos a todo el mundo antifascista.
you do not seem to be white.
you are probably black?
or of mixed race? white mother nigger father? a mongrel?
only a non-arian can talk like you.
tell us about you.
if you dare.
white pride
Dear Odin,
Thank you for your comment. It’s spelled “Aryan”.
I am single, DTE, GSOH, NS, SD.
I enjoy going out and having fun with my friends. Also romantic vegetarian breakfasts, lunches and dinners, by either sun or moonlight.
Here’s to many more neo-Nazi musicians obtaining their licenses from the Ian Stuart Driving School.
Rahowa!
@ndy.
Can I get a question answered from a Nazi?
Let’s casts our minds back to the Second World War in Eastern Europe. Uncle Adolf had his Einsatzgruppen/Waffen SS/Deutsche Heer going to the odd village or maybe over a thousand more, rounding up the local inhabitants, locking them in a barn, dowsing it all with petrol then setting the whole thing ablaze because the lands of Eastern Europe were populated by the Untermensch. These Slavic ‘sub-humans’ had to disappear for the sake of Lebensraum for the ‘Aryan’ Reich Volk and Deutsche Volk. Millions of Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Poles and peoples of other nations died because they were of Slavic origin and in the way.
Now let’s fast forward to 2007. Neo-Nazis in the former Soviet Union and Poland are no longer the ‘Slavic untermensch’ but ‘White Aryan comrades’. Brothers in the cause of saving Mother Europe. Please explain. After all, I’m just a working class lad who had a shit British bog standard comprehensive education designed by ZOG to keep me stupid and pliable.
I know… It’s got something to do with that dirty Jewish lie hasn’t it? I saw it with my own eyes once. My ex-girlfriend was of German descent and her Oma still lived in Darmstadt. We were in a cafe having coffee and cakes and when my ex’s Oma spoke to us she lent forward and spoke quietly so no one else could hear her. When I inquired why she acted that way in public it was explained to me that it was just a little habit she had picked up having lived 12 years of her life under National Socialism. Them dirty Jews! It’s amazing what their lies can do!
…dude, truth and facts: Andy couldn’t even combat a brown paper bag placed over his head. Andy lost his wit when he decided to join the great junkie group called ‘Anarcho’ … It would of been a pleasure to have met the original Andy.
Maybe they feel guilty for the atrocities carried out on ethnic Germans in 1945 by the Communists? Or could it be that the West, having gone to war to save Poland from living under a brutal dictator, walked away and let them die under Communist rule? Why did England go to war? To save Poland was it not?
Could it be that all those Russian soldiers that survived the war yes survived the war that were prisoners in Germany got sent to the Gulag as soon as they returned. AND DIED very slowly in the MILLIONS.
What about the fact that many of Germany’s Eastern front troops were made up of units of Russians, Ukrainians, Byelorussians, Poles and other peoples of Slavic origin?
It’s funny how the Left considers all National Socialists mass murderers or Hitler worshippers. If we apply the same rationale to the Left then they are all Stalinist mass murderers.
http://www . wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/welcome.html
A few questions for Christophe:
[29 in fact, all produced by one “Giuseppe Furioso”, generally titled ‘My Holocaust Problems’, and available at various denialist sites.]
Jim QLD
I know Stalin and Communists killed more people than National Socialism that is not the question I posed.
The question I asked was why in Mein Kampf the Slavs were labelled ‘sub-human’ and when war in the East broke out were murdered in their millions (only real pricks deny this and they can write as many books as possible — the truth is that there are still millions of people alive today who are witness to the genocide caused by BOTH sides) simply because they were Slavs. Now in 2007 the same (neo-Nazi) Slavs are considered Aryan brothers (Uncle Adolf would be spinning in his graves… where ever they are).
Can I just add that my beloved England is part of the British Union which also comprises of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. All together we make up the country known as Great Britain and have done since the 1707 Acts of Union.To say that England went to war to protect Poland’s sovereignty is not only wrong but is a discredit to the 100s of 1000s of Welsh, Scottish and Irishmen who thought in WW2. BRITAIN went to war with Nazi Germany in 1939 for the same reasons as she did in WWI (1914-18). She couldn’t afford not to. The same way as we are tied in with American foreign policy now, in the early and middle parts of the 20th century our foreign policy was tied in with that of France. If we would’ve broken our pacts and treaties with the French and stayed out of WWI and 2 the French could have made our trade, Empire and Economy suffer big time. (Click on and download a video entitled ‘Why Britain entered the war’ by Marcus Kiggell it’s quite interesting).
Yes Adolf had a lot help from Slavic peoples such as Croats, Serbs, Slovenians, Bulgarians, Bosnians, Kosavans and Albanians (Muslims in the SS! What were they thinking?) but if you read your military history books the Ost Battalions made up of peoples from the former Soviet Union were of limited size and effectiveness.
Also, why if anyone raises criticism of National Socialism they are considered ‘lefties’? I myself am an English Nationalist. I believe in conservation and promotion of Anglo Saxon culture and a end to the farce which is multiculturalism which is killing the cultural identity of the English people.
In Britain the Scots can celebrate their culture, learn Gaelic and have their own parliament as well as representation in the British parliament. In Wales their Celtic identity is felt and celebrated even stronger, the kids learn to speak Welsh in schools and the road signs are in Welsh and English even though only 21% of Welsh people speak the language.
They also have their own parliament called the Welsh assembly (both parliaments funded by ENGLISH tax payers) and like the Scots still have representation in the British parliament. What do the English get? We get told that our history is all bad, that to celebrate our own culture and identity is tantamount to fascism. We must celebrate everyone else’s culture through the ‘joy’ of multiculturalism. Ask our kids to explain what English culture is and they couldn’t tell you a thing! They’re far too busy wearing baseball caps, munching on McDonalds and talking with West Indian accents (Ali G would be funny if it wasn’t so painfully true). If you can get hold of a copy read The Deculturalisation of the English People by John Lovejoy.
Now some people are going to call me a nasty racist for writing the above. They can not help this, it’s in their programming from school onwards. I believe people of any racial group can live here BUT English culture English Law and English customs and identity must come before the wants of the minorities. I know good people with not one ounce of racial hatred in them who are now supporters of the BNP because they feel ignored by the mainstream political parties too afraid to talk about the issues that concern them due to political correctness. They feel like strangers in the country of their ancestors due to mass uncontrolled immigration from Africa and Eastern Europe as well as the ‘don’t celebrate Christmas too much, it might upset the Muslims’ attitudes that local authorities adopt (here’s a taste). 3 or 4 years ago these people would have dismissed the BNP for what they are now they see them as their only hope.
Lastly I will not bother answering questions set by holocaust deniers, I’ll just treat it with the contempt that it deserves.
I would like to reply to you but it would be rather lengthy and a total waste of time. You refuse to accept any information that has not been cleared by the censor. Just keep your head in the sand and fingers in your ears and all will be just fine.
“she lent forward and spoke quietly so no one else could hear her. When I inquired why she acted that way in public it was explained to me that it was just a little habit she had picked up having lived 12 years of her life under National Socialism. Them dirty Jews! It’s amazing what their lies can do!”
I suspect it was more to do with the fact that people were using the Gestapo to settle old scores with their neighbours. It didn’t pay to be politically incorrect during that time in Germany, as it doesn’t pay today to be politically incorrect.
Christophe,
A “hero” of the English is and will always be perceived to be, Churchill (and Oliver Cromwell)
He, Churchill, apparently once commented,
“that anti-Semitism may be a good starter but it is a bad finisher.”
So England and the US, as confirmed PhiloSemitic European peoples are finishing well. In fact, they are nearly well and truly finished as a people bearing any resemblance to what they were at the heights of their protective love for the Chosen when they warred against other Europeans to save the world from the evils of Goyisch indeference to Jewish ideals.
The English have been emasculated by guilt and their propensity to engage in coprophilic activity of the Kosher kind.
Just because someone says they’re important doesn’t mean you have to roll over and take it the way they want to give it to you.
Dr Inanity says that most of the English appear to be Nutz ! and bewildered by the lack of appreciation they have received in slaying the Anti-Semites.
But did you really expect anything from the world’s most centripetally self centered-ish Princesses ?
http://docstalk.blogspot.com/2007/11/jews-according-to-churchill-new-article.html
“As early as 1930 Churchill realized that the Nazis’ anti-Jewish policies carried the stench of an ancient evil. “Tell your boss from me,” he said to a Hitler acquaintance in the late summer of 1932, as the Nazi Party was on the verge of power, “that anti-Semitism may be a good starter but it is a bad finisher.”
Mate you[‘]r[e] a joke. Just cause Ian gave you one to[o] many beatings you try and make it like he[‘]s the coward and not you. Hopefully one day I meet you and kick your scrawny white ass.
If you think we are living in a free liberal society then you haven’t clue what you’re on about. The idea of Political Correctness for example has already been expressed by George Orwell 60 odd years ago in his book “Nineteen Eighty Four”. If you haven’t read it then I suggest researching the term “New Speak” as it mirrors the idea of today’s Political Correctness albeit in a less totalitarian way.
Only people that have their eyes open can unearth the truth. The more you steer yourself away from the fraudulently run media and educate yourself away from the indoctrination of people with self servant agendas, the more truths will become obvious to you. Only your own realization of the truth can melt away the lies fed to you by the corrupt education systems and the mass media. The truth is like a cyanide pill, it will destroy the liberal heart warming safety bubble enjoyed by the herd, and therefore it cannot be spoon fed to anyone with the capacity to understand what the truth really means.
The media is a system designed to keep the HERD entertained whilst the wealthy elite enslave the nations of this world with their dreams of a one world government. Their greed and commitment to this achievement reached new heights with the false flag attack of 9/11 constructed by the wealthy elite to empower George Bush’s administration to remove the civil liberties of the U.S.A. only safeguarded by the American Constitution! A constitution which is all but eradicated and could soon be completely dissolved by the union of Canada, The United States and Mexico which will enable the elite to control the majority the American continent with a new Amero currency. All this has been orchestrated under the banner of the pseudo “War against Terrorism”.
To my understanding, the white race has become the dominant world power because of the origins of its peoples. The Northern Hemisphere brought cold, harsh winters, the people continually faught for survival, the defence of their homelands and their very way of life served only to strengthen them and secure its future. We the white race of today’s world shit on these brave efforts with apathy, pacifism and mediocrity because of a lack of pride, respect and honour in our heritage and in our present lives. All this has been brought about by the corrupt political systems, religious organisations and the divide created by the political belief systems that have no balance in the political spectrum; they are just outmoded moulds too rigid and unmalleable for anyone of free thought and spirit.
The mass media, corrupt education systems and religious organisations have made good use of the Divide and Conquer method to maintain and create power. Social boundaries such as the class divide have served well in keeping the wealthy where they want to be and the working class under the thumb. Pride in working class values is a great concept but in the grand scheme of things it serves only to further enslavement. The ruling class don’t want your children to be educated; they want you to hate people that attempt to better themselves. They want you to struggle at the bottom of the pile amongst each other instead of looking upwards together towards the throne of rule & tyranny.
There is nothing wrong with being proud of your race and your heritage. The majority of the white people in Britain don’t seem to be proud of their heritage. Before you can make a journey anywhere you need to know where the path begins to find the end. Not being proud of your heritage only creates degeneration leading to a lack of pride, honour and respect in yourself and other people around you. Without these precepts you are nothing but a mould of Thatcherism the shape and form of the selfish parasite that has been destroying our nation from within.
Charity Starts at Home so Look After Your Own because No One Respects a Mug!
That’s because B’nai B’rith, and the government, have made a policy that any, white, person who promotes pride in their heritage is labelled a racist – and possibly face court of defamation charges!
Mick.
English.
It’s your language.
Learn it.
OK, Andy, I see you have been showing a little more hostility ever since I have put up my new web page. I didn’t know that “White Pride” offended you so much!
I’ll show some consideration, and remove it for you.
Capisch.
It’s amazing how the massive amount of information I’ve written here has been met with precisely the same kind of unintelligent rhetorical bullshit that both sides of the political spectrum feed off.
For fuck[‘]s sake please wake up! Pride in your race is only the beginning, it’s not a means to an end. Civilizations have risen and fallen throughout history because of their inability to adapt to their circumstances. Rhetoric helps nobody except the weak minded that need a dogma to latch onto. Like the reign of Christianity in Europe the carrot of salvation is being dangled in front of your noses.
Why kick upwards when it’s much easier to kick downwards at lesser men? Because it’s the quickest and easiest way to dissolve some of your own angst and frustration, to feel righteous and levitate your pedestal to a higher altitude.
Anarchism will not last longer than a fucking week either unless you manage to somehow stop humans from reverting back to the tribal ways of old. The result will be mini[-]pockets of fascist tribes sieg heiling the leader of the group with masses of weak and feeble humans flocking to the strongest and largest tribes to further create a Strength in Numbers struggle.
Because we’re so far removed from nature here in the west we’ll go back to a base level of Darwinism where survival of the fittest on a global scale exists, there is no salvation from a larger group of Misanthropic Cannibalistic Humans because human flesh be all that exists. Unless of course Sainsbury’s finds a way to process it and sell it in a downed aircraft’s fuselage.
A united human race that celebrates differences rather than using them as an opportunity or excuse to undermine will never become a reality. It happens today in white society without the influence of ethnic minorities and it always has happened. Mods would fight Rockers just as today Chavs fight Goths and all that kind of bullshit.
Personally I think the solution is the eradication of the human race and just fucking have done with it.
Mick.
Italian-American.
It’s not your language.
Capisce?
Href,
The reason you may not have received a response is because your diatribe had nothing to do with Ian Stuart, Skrewdriver, The Battle of Waterloo, or much of anything else. Instead, it forms a free-flowing account of your paranoid, misanthropic, political whirled vision.
Anyway:
“Political correctness” is a joke that wasn’t funny the first time round and now only elicits groans;
We live in different societies — you in the UK (I assume), myself in Australia, and others elsewhere. Failing to recognise this fact is possibly symptomatic of a certain degree of self-absorption;
‘Political correctness’ has little to do with Orwell’s work (including 1984), life or politics as such — he was also a libertarian and a socialist;
It’s “self serving” not “self servant”;
“The truth” isn’t some kind of magic pill or bean which melts away ‘liberalism’ (there are many honest liberals);
“The media” is a complex creature, worthy of further analysis — it’s not necessarily the monolithic institution you portray it as being;
The US Constitution, in and of itself, doesn’t guarantee anything (“eternal vigilance” ‘n’ all that);
Your understanding of the origins of the white race reads like a fairy tale, which is probably what accounts for your facile understanding of the contemporary politics of race.
Etcetera.
Andy: “Your understanding of the origins of the white race reads like a fairy tale, which is probably what accounts for your facile understanding of the contemporary politics of race.”
Then, Mr. Moran, why don’t you tell us how the White race developed; and why our physical structure [differs from that] of an African?
Myself and others would be very delighted to hear your answer.
Andy, what I said may not conform to the topic in question (I’d have thought a liberal would have let that slide) but neither have the majority of comments — majority rules ‘n’ all that (apparently)!
Your message is as I expected. As soon as you have something easy to take the piss out of you do so (small yet still an example of kicking downwards). I made a mistake in my usage of a phrase, “self servant” instead of “self serving”. So what? Why highlight it as it still means the same thing; the way I said it is more poignant anyway!
I like that word “elicit”; by logic I arrive at my conclusions. If more people did the same instead of listening to other people’s opinionated offerings then maybe we’d all get somewhere hmm?
If you read my message as a nonconformist of mainstream indoctrination you’d understand that when I spoke about newspeak and political correctness I was referring to the modern form of PCness and it’s likeness to “New Speak”. Not that Orwell wrote about political correctness! Oh he was a socialist and libertarian, really? He was an English socialist and libertarian I think you’ll find! Why tell me something I know without a point or at least a contextual suffix? The juxtaposition of the sentences you sometimes write make your verbatim regurgitation read as though painted by Jackson Pollock.
Maybe the fact that you live in Australia and not this “sewage pipe” of Europe I tend to call England (or for the more PC members reading this “United Kingdom”) your self absorption has reached level 88 where you are now able to disappear up your own arse “can ya tell what it is yet mate?”. Then again I can’t complain as we dumped all our shit on Australian soil years before!
To be paranoid means to never be caught out, sure it takes a lot of energy and constant vigilance but as you said ”eternal vigilance” ‘n’ all that. Being liberal sounds great but the reality is like being raped up the arse by an immigrant after you’ve just gone to prison for putting up the George Cross and offended the Extremist Muslim community that have no right to be in your country in the first place.
If I have facile understanding of the contemporary politics of race then so be it. If living in an 8 million people strong city with its diversity of cultures can’t possibly give me a sound understanding of the contemporary politics of race, then I guess it’s nothing a good olde bit of university education won’t fix!
I feel it my duty to point those of you that do not know of it in the direction of a documentary I watched a few weeks ago. It echoes back to me a lot of things I have already taken to be plausible truth through my own analysis of my experience in this plain existence.
http://zeitgeistmovie.com/
You can watch it from the website or download it via the socialist medium of bit torrents or p2p sharing programs.
Href: “Being liberal sounds great but the reality is like being raped up the arse by an immigrant after you’ve just gone to prison for putting up the George Cross and offended the Extremist Muslim community that have no right to be in your country in the first place.”
That’s what I’ve been trying to get across to Andy all of this time: A multicultural society is not a multicultural society at all.
Href:
By any standard definition, I’m not a ‘liberal’; I’m an anarchist.
First, as for your departure from the ostensible subject of this post, I’m just trying, however vainly, to ensure that threads allude, at least vaguely, to the topic. Or: why bother making generalised remarks about your unhappiness with the state of contemporary race relations in the UK here rather than elsewhere?
Secondly, you ask: Why bother pointing out that the appropriate phrasing is “self serving” not “self servant”? The reasons: Partly because I find it amusing, partly because commenters of your ilk tend to laud the virtues of being English / White while at the same time being sloppy in their own use of the English language (which I also find amusing) and partly because it serves as an example, to illustrate the existence of a number of basic grammatical and spelling errors in your post.
Forget about it.
Thirdly, you wrote:
“If you think we are living in a free liberal society then you haven’t clue what you’re on about. The idea of Political Correctness for example has already been expressed by George Orwell 60 odd years ago in his book “Nineteen Eighty Four”. If you haven’t read it then I suggest researching the term “New Speak” as it mirrors the idea of today’s Political Correctness albeit in a less totalitarian way.”
Not a promising beginning.
Orwell didn’t explicitly refer to ‘PC’, but your claim was that he had expressed this ‘idea’ (Newspeak) in his novel. On a superficial level, the claim has some merit; on a more serious level, it has very little. In contemporary usage the term ‘PC’ (and I suggest researching the origins of the term as a response by US cultural conservatives of the seventies and eighties to newly-emerging discourses on equality) is a cliche. Further, what Orwell’s vision of the totalitarian control of language shares with this notion is a similar reduction in meaning to cliche. In reality — or should I say fiction — Orwell’s presentation was far more sophisticated than this…
In any case, a more appropriate example of Orwell’s critique of (the English) language and its relationship to politics is his 1946 essay ‘Politics and the English Language’.
My purposes are quite different to your own, and I reject the half-witted parochialism evident in your commentary. The superficiality of your political understanding is similarly evident in your crazed notion that “Being liberal sounds great but the reality is like being raped up the arse by an immigrant after you’ve just gone to prison for putting up the George Cross and offended the Extremist Muslim community that have no right to be in your country in the first place”.
Bananas.
“The juxtaposition of the sentences you sometimes write make your verbatim regurgitation read as though painted by Jackson Pollock”, on the other hand, is just painful.
Finally, I must’ve missed “the massive amount of information [you’ve] written here”, but your sub-Darwinian account of the history of “the white race” is as sound as your grasp of the English language is firm.
So as an anarchist what is the solution to the global problem? Imagine if all of a sudden the oil ran out, you’d have anarchy then on a global scale meaning maximum victory level for your far left comrades.
Then what do you think would happen after societies have fallen and there is no kind of law and order? The parallel opposite because the balance of life is like a simple physics demonstration. When you push the pendulum in one direction it goes back in the other direction.
Your problem is really that you read too much and lavish in the fruits of other people’s work. People that think for themselves don’t need to research the origins of political correctness for example. The fact that putting 2 + 2 together under the circumstances and analysing what’s going on around you is of far more value than any academic study.
You could research into the history of playing the guitar till the cows come home but could you pick one up and play it?
However if you picked up a guitar and had someone teach you classically, learning how to read music etc. Depending on your own natural ability to play it, you’d be playing the guitar very similarly to anyone else that’s been classically trained.
If you picked up the guitar and taught yourself then sure you’d have a style that a lot of classically trained snobs might scoff at, you might not understand how to read music and it might take you longer to become good. At least you’d have walked the path of the original passion which invented classical training.
Yet you’re a person of the classical training ilk. Spoon fed and spoiled scoffing at the people with idiosyncratic guitar playing.
There is no one “solution” to “the global problem”. Instead, there are many ‘problems’ and many ‘solutions’, and the definition of both depends very much on one’s perspective and situation. Thus for yourself “Being liberal sounds great but the reality is like being raped up the arse by an immigrant after you’ve just gone to prison for putting up the George Cross and offended the Extremist Muslim community that have no right to be in your country in the first place”.
I don’t happen to agree that ‘being liberal’ mandates being subjected to (virtual) anal rape by an immigrant in prison, but such a statement does suggest, at the very least, that in addition to a soft spot for English nationalist symbols, you’re beset by a number of racial and sexual anxieties. Whether this is the case is immaterial, however, to my point, which is that speaking in the most abstract terms about ‘problems’ and solutions’ is rather useless, especially in the absence of a (shared) political framework. And in terms of political frameworks, you employ a bourgeois definition of ‘anarchy’ and ‘anarchism’, one which confuses the imagined consequences of the classically bourgeois fear of mob rule with anarchist and anarchist-inspired efforts towards constructing societies based on principles of generalised self-management (ones which frequently have their roots, incidentally, in various, principally European labour movements of the mid- to late- nineteenth century).
In the bourgeois imagination, societies “rise” when they expand their dominions (as they must) and “collapse” when the lower orders refuse to acquiesce to their rulers’ demands — as a result of which ‘mere anarchy is loosed upon the world’ (Yeats). Complete nonsense, of course, but of great comfort to bourgeois thumbsuckers such as yourself (or, more likely, your employer/s). As for “anarchy… on a global scale meaning maximum victory level for your far left comrades”, I hate to be the one to burst your bubble but politics isn’t a computer game. Further, life isn’t a simple laboratory physics demonstration, however much you find metaphorical simplicity of this sort attractive (as well as being in stark contradiction to real-life physics).
With regards the “problem” of “oil”, the Midnight Notes collective’s efforts are frequently cited in the literature I read on the political economy of oil (see for example ‘No Blood for Oil: The Political Economy of the War on Iraq’, a talk given by George Caffentzis at ABC No Rio (NYC) on February 18, 2003), but more generally — and obviously — oil reserves will eventually dry up, and new, alternative, renewable energy sources will have to be obtained if production is to continue at anything even remotely resembling current levels.
What this means for the global economy, industry, society and culture is enumerated in a vast range of literature on the subject, but suffice it to say that very large, even radical changes in life, work and production will almost certainly be required. What this means for the dominant economic paradigm and the nature of global capitalism as a world system is difficult to say, but it may be that, together with a wide range of other ecological and social pressures, a collapse of some kind is likely. Its depth, location and longevity is indeterminate, but, as always, it will be the poorest among the masses who will suffer the most, while elites maintain (to be precise, have maintained for them) fortresses of privilege.
You are absolutely correct. In fact, I always blog — naked — from a laptop in a vat full of grapes brought in from the fields by hard-working peasants. How I laugh at their toiling!
On a (slightly) more serious note, that you should denigrate literacy, historical research and scholarship is unsurprising, as it is typical of the reaction of those who claim to offer “mountains of information” only to have it pointed out that they’ve produced a pile of ideological garbage. In terms of your somewhat bizarre analogy with learning to play classical guitar, I really don’t think it’s all that apt. To begin with, as with other instruments, the point of having a ‘classical’ or ‘traditional’ education is to obtain the wherewithal to then transcend this tradition; a practice which is usually encouraged, not stymied, by this process. Further, classical music is dead until it is interpreted. So too, history.
Finally, I love Jimi Hendrix.
And you’re an idiot.
listen i just skipped through all this bull shit, i am a VERY proud english white woman and i will have no one slag off my country, we fought hard to make this country white my family died for this shithole, only in the last 30 years has it become a hell hole, scum bags live everyw[h]ere raping my country they live off our government because they have no skills they cant even speak the effin language half the time[.] send the bastards pa[c]king.
heil ian
14/88
white pride
skingirl_23:
In response to your comments regarding a lack of linguistic ability of members of non-white communities, I would like to point out that your I’s should be in capitals, can’t should contain an apostrophe and you missed out the letter ‘c’ in the word ‘packing’.
On a more abstract note, due to the lack of reproductive organs, it is not possible to rape a country.
I just thought you may like to know.
With all my multicultural love, J.M.
As a real communist. I will say nothing. Oh wait, I just did.
i say fuck all of you white nigger lover losers niggers should be all sent back to africa niggers wont work niggers and spics and all non white races will be the downfall to this country so if your a nigger lover or a nigger fuck you and burn in hell
Ian and skrewdriver were not nor have they ever been cowards they were people who care about the white race you shitheads seig heil
Dear chad / A N F,
I believe you’ll find the correct spelling is “you’re” as in “so if you’re a nigger lover or a nigger fuck you and burn in hell.”
And may I recommend you attend The Ian Stuart Driving School?
Hugs ‘n’ kisses,
@ndy.
hey andy you can go fuck off and die you are a piss poor excuse for a human being hopefully someone will find you hangin from a tree one day and i dont give a flyin fuck you correct my spelling your just a white trash peice of shit
on the other hand andy you sound quite educated do you mind shareing your ideas with me i am willing to listen and maybe learn something i didnt know but dont you think everyone is entitled to his or her opinion?
WHAT THE FUCK!??? GOOD NIGHT WHITE PRIDE????
ARE YOU PART OF THE FUCKING ISLAMIFICATION OF BRITAIN[????]
YOU MAKE ME FEEL SICK.
THE MOST INFLUEN[T]IAL MAN OF THE WHITE RACE DIED AND YOU SLAG HIM AND THE FAR RIGHT OFF. “BONEHEAD” EXCUSE ME BUT WHEN CIVIL WAR BREAKS OUT I WILL NOT BE FIGHTING FOR YOU.
WHITE PRIDE WORLD WIDE[!!!!]
HEIL!!!!
IM FAR RIGHT WITH ACTION AND SO ARE MY BROTHERS. WE WILL RESTORE THIS COUNTRY TO GLORY AND ITS EMPIRE. YOU WILL ONE DAY BE BEGGING FOR OUR MERCY[!!!!]
😆