Ian Stuart : Zero of the White Race, Skrewdriver, and “The Battle of Waterloo”

Update : September 25, 2008: A good (if typically flawed) biography of Ian and Skrewdriver, ‘The Legacy of Ian Stuart’, Fat Richard Warwick, Swindle, No.3. Note that while German label Rock-O-Rama — on which Skrewdriver released an album (Hail The New Dawn) and single (Invasion/On The Streets) in 1984 — has since evolved into Belgian label Pure Impact, a fascist-sympathising businessman, Herbert Egoldt, remains at the helm (if in the shadows). Note too that ex-Skrewydriver bassist Murray Holmes is back playing gigs Down Under with The Quick & The Dead, and with the support of local (Perth) punk band The Homicides.

Neo-Nazi skinhead Ian Stuart Donaldson (b.1957) was killed in a car accident in 1993, and ever since he’s a been a subject of veneration — well, for a handful of other boneheads anyway — as well as derision (everyone else). Before he died a long-overdue death, however, Stuart managed — as the founder of Blood & Honour and vocalist for Skrewdriver — to earn himself a reputation as being one of England’s most notorious boneheads… as well as being among the top one hundred of the finest musicians to ever come out of Blackpool with-a-Grammar-school-education and to then die-in-a-car-accident-in-1993.

In an interview in some zine or other, Stuart is alleged to have remarked (before his death… presumably) that:

I am not the type of person to creep and crawl to a bunch of weak-kneed, pacifist lefties and two-faced Zionists. One must be honest to people about one’s beliefs and especially when the survival of our very race is at stake. I have no doubt that anyone who expounds patriotic beliefs has a little black mark put against his name, and by now I must have a massive black mark near my name. C’est la guerre.

Mad as a cut snake, obviously.

But that wasn’t all there was to Stuart. For, as well being quite a daft bugger and a god-awful musician,* he was also a coward and a bully:

Following the events of May 27 [1989: B&H stupidly tried to hold a gig in London — ‘The Main Event’ — and got their arses kicked by Anti-Fascist Action], Ian Stuart left his house in King’s Cross and moved to Derbyshire. [AFA] heard rumours that the Chelsea Headhunters were trying to muscle in on on the [B&H] cash cow and were making threatening noises in his direction. There was, however, another reason for his swift departure from London, and that was the activities of a certain ex-Manc by the name of Hefty who harassed and attacked the [B&H] leader at every given opportunity.

The area around King’s Cross and Euston was bandit country. Lone fascists, small groups of [neo-Nazis] and even whole firms came to grief in the streets around the two stations. Hefty and a few other lads, namely AJ, Carl, Pete G, and Gavin, used to operate around that area and chanced upon Stuart on a number of occasions. They gave him and his followers a few serious hidings at various times, but the event that seemed to give Stuart the real horrors was when he went out early one morning to buy a newspaper and a pint of milk, and was hit across the head by a large Mancunian wielding a Lucozade bottle. Ian Stuart was a coward and a bully. He liked to throw his weight around when the odds were in his favour, but when confronted on any number of occasions by AFA lads he legged it and left his comrades to face the music…

[NB: “The Headhunter heyday was back in the mid-1980s when Steven Hickmott led the group… Hickmott was eventually picked up by police in the country’s first undercover football operation. Sentenced to ten years for organising violence (later overturned after police evidence was questioned), Hickmott was replaced with Chris “Chubby” Henderson, a long-time [neo-Nazi] activist and singer with the Oi band Combat 84.” Locally, Combat 84 — alongside of Condemned 84 and a number of other racist/fascist Oi! bands — is available through Deadset Music.]

Stuart also had the privilege in his too-long life of being a failed businessman: between 1987 and 1989, AFA managed to close down the few shops in Carnaby Street scabby enough to actually stoop to selling his music and merchandise, leaving his few fans unhappy shoppers… and B&H humiliated.

Below is an account of ‘The Battle of Waterloo’ by a former member of Manchester AFA, Dave Hann; the battle between boneheads and antifa taking place the very last time Skrewdriver tried to play London, and a little over twelve months before Stuart made his final descent into Hell.

Curiously, it’s a little known fact that, at the time of his death, Derby Coroner Peter Ashworth concluded:

We are still no nearer finding out what caused this tragic accident. All we can say is that, whatever his parent’s defects, Stuart became less easy to control. But there must have been some other factor which contributed to the crash, even if Ian had not grabbed the wheel in a way many others in the same situation would never have done.

So, as we remember Ian the Bonehead, we should also remember all the other Boneheads.

And send them our very best wishes.

STAGE BOTTLESDead But Not Forgiven

    Ian couldn’t drive a car
    As we all know
    He trusted too much in all his gods
    And though he was a human being
    We don’t feel any sorrow for him

    Now we got rid of one of those cunts
    He’s been one of our most important enemies
    So we forget our respect for life
    Cause all he did was senseless shit

    […]

    Now we’re here and having our fun
    Having our fun and thinking about him
    He’s been the one who misused the word Skinhead
    He himself was never one – he was a fucking Bonehead

[*Some conspiracy theorists maintain that ‘the Jews’ are ‘the ones what are responsible’ for not only Stuart’s ‘accidental’ death but his ‘deliberate’ birth too; seemingly on the basis that his music — being so unbearably mediocre — was devised solely in order to discredit the bonehead image, and to ruin the cottage White Power? Give ‘Em A Golden Shower! muzak industry that was borne in his flatulent wake.]

The Battle of Waterloo, September 12th, 1992

In August 1992, posters proclaiming “Skrewdriver Back in London” were spotted in various parts of the country. They were advertising a Blood and Honour [B&H] concert due to take place in London on September 12. At first we assumed it was a hoax, as Skrewdriver hadn’t even attempted to play in London since The Main Event, but as time went by it became obvious that it was anything but a hoax.

The concert was once more touted to be a massive affair, with up to 2,000 [neo-Nazis] expected to attend and several bands playing, including Skrewdriver, Skullhead, No Remorse and a Swedish band called Dirlewanger. There was a rumour flying about that a mainstream music promoter was willing to seriously back [B&H] if the gig proved a success and any opposition was muted or destroyed. Once again the gig was at a secret location with a re-direction point, which this time was at Waterloo Station at 5.30pm. We heard on the grapevine that both the BNP and the British Movement (BM) had been approached to help with security for the event.

By coincidence, a week before the concert the AFA’s Unity Carnival was due to take place on Hackney Downs in London. A request was made for stewards to attend from around the country in case the fash tried a pre-emptive strike, but nothing untoward happened and the carnival passed off peacefully. Maybe the fash were hoping that if they left us alone, we would leave them alone. Fat chance.

The carnival was cold and rain-swept, but at least it gave us a chance to alert an already interested audience to the following weekend’s events. In the meantime, London AFA contacted all the various anti-racist and anti-fascist groups with details of what was to happen at Waterloo, but no-one seemed interested. The ANL suddenly decided that they were holding a march in Thornton Heath, more than fifteen miles away. So it looked like we were on our own, but then we never seriously expected anything else.

Neil Parrish, who had become one of [B&H]’s main organisers, boasted to the media that he would be available at 4.30pm on the station concourse to give interviews. A Sky News reporter was worried that he wouldn’t be able to find the bones and was told that as they were expecting between 1,000 and 2,000 at the station, “you’ll have no trouble finding us”. By a strange coincidence, 4.30pm was when London AFA announced that they were also calling a counter-demonstration at the station.

We took about twenty stewards down from Manchester. All the usual suspects were present, including Gerry, Steve, Wigan Mike, Gary the Axe, Solo, Big Dave and the rest. We eventually arrived in the Smoke at 1pm and met up with the London AFA lads in a pub on the Holloway Road. AFA groups from around the country were arriving all the time, swelling numbers to about 200. The atmosphere was tense because everyone knew that this was the big one. It really was a case of do or die. We had a fair-sized mob out that day, with good numbers from Liverpool, Doncaster and London itself, but it looked tiny in comparison to what I knew we could expect to find at Waterloo.

I tried to push all thoughts of what lay ahead to the back of my mind. I was nervous and tense but did my best to appear laid back and unconcerned. Sometimes it just hits you like that. Sometimes you’re really buzzing and up for it, while at others you get a queasy feeling in the pit of your stomach. Either way you have to force yourself to stay cool, especially when you are in a position where other people are relying on you to keep a clear head.

At 3.20pm, AFA’s Stewards’ Group appeared on the station concourse at Waterloo, causing a number of bones to flee for their lives. Three boneheads drinking in the station were set upon. The police tried to push their way through the AFA mob crowding at the entrance to the bar in an attempt to arrest those inside, and in doing so missed the guilty parties making good their escape through another exit not ten feet away. We heard rumours afterwards that these first casualties were in fact plainclothes police sent to Waterloo to infiltrate [B&H].

Both Steve and Gerry were involved in early exchanges with the [neo-Nazis], but Gerry hurt his hand punching someone on the side of the head. He spent the rest of the afternoon complaining about it. “I think I’ve broken ma fuckin’ knuckle”, he moaned.

More boneheads were attacked as they entered the station, and the police were forced to cordon off the [neo-Nazis] in the middle of the station concourse. Along with several other AFA stewards I infiltrated the cordon. Once inside I sidled up behind the biggest bonehead I could find and started kicking him surreptitiously in the back of the ankles.

“You’re going to die when we get out of here”, I whispered into his ear.

He tried to ignore me, but he was shaking like a leaf.

“Did you hear me, you baldy wanker?” I goaded. “When we get out of here I’m going to kill you.”

All the colour had drained out of him and for a moment I thought he was going to faint. His misery was brought to an end when the police decided to escort the [neo-Nazis] out of the station to safety, but once outside, and out of view of the CCTV cameras, they were astonished when their escort suddenly imploded from within as the anti-fascists turned on the boneheads. The bonehead I was goading earlier had shot off like a rabbit, and I only managed to land a couple of glancing blows on the back of his head.

This scenario was re-enacted several times over the next hour and a half as we continued to resist police attempts to force us off the station concourse. While this game of cat and mouse was going on, other groups of anti-fascists were ambushing boneheads coming up the escalators from the tube station.

I was arrested by the Transport Police at Waterloo Station during one of these scuffles, but for some reason I was never charged with anything, and to my surprise they released me an hour or so later with a warning to leave the immediate area or risk being arrested again. I ignored the warning of course. There was no way I was going to miss this.

The Transport Police at Waterloo Station have a little office at the side of the concourse, and I basically took two steps out of the front door and I was smack bang in the middle of a full-scale riot again. Boneheads were still being chased and battered everywhere you looked, and the police had completely lost control of the situation.

By 5pm, there were nearly 1,000 anti-fascists on the concourse and fights were still breaking out all over the place. Shortly afterwards, the station was shut down at the request of the manager, freeing AFA from the responsibility of holding the concourse any longer and allowing us to surge out into the streets to confront the groups of boneheads mobbing up outside. Neil Parrish was nowhere to be seen.

Everywhere you looked boneheads were being battered and chased. A group of fifty right-wing casuals got themselves trapped under a footbridge, and despite being surrounded by riot police they came under attack from all sides, including an aerial bombardment of broken quarry tiles from the footbridge above…

Elsewhere, individuals and small groups arriving on foot or by car were picked off as they approached the station. One carload of bones was trapped when the driver made the unfortunate mistake of leaving his window wound down, providing an opportunistic anti-fascist with the chance to reach in and turn his engine off and remove the keys before the vehicle was attacked. The immobile car was nearly turned over.

I saw one panic-stricken bonehead run the entire length of the street with his arms covering his head to protect himself. A sensible enough precaution except for the fact that he couldn’t see where he was going and kept running into groups of anti-fascists who gave him the occasional dig as he ran past them. Eventually someone put him out of his misery and tripped him up. I caught him a beauty as he fell, my boot going upwards as he was falling forwards. Within seconds he was unconscious.

Four stations had now been shut down in the area due to “rioting”, including Charing Cross, making it difficult for anyone to reach Waterloo, although a large mob of bones arrived on foot via the footbridge across the Thames. They soon wished they hadn’t as they immediately came under attack. A number of football supporters from various clubs, including Arsenal, QPR, Millwall and Chelsea also found their way to the area and joined one side or the other according to their political beliefs.

The football supporters mostly arrived at Waterloo in ones or twos, or in small groups. Some were attempting to make their way home after the match, while others were attracted to the area by radio reports of the rioting. Millwall and Chelsea arrived mob-handed. Chelsea, as expected, were pretty much on the side of [B&H]. The situation with Millwall was less clear-cut. Everyone expected them to be 100 per cent behind the fash but when one of Millwall’s main men was approached by Nicky Cooper of the NF pleading for help on [B&H]’s behalf, he got more than he bargained for. He was apparently sent sprawling by a vicious punch and told, “We’ve come to kick their heads in, not go to their fucking stupid gig”. However, another well-known face at Millwall, “Tags” or “Taggart”, collapsed with a heart attack in the middle of the fascist ranks after coming under an anti-fascist bombardment of bricks and paving slabs.

Skirmishes continued all around Waterloo as the [neo-Nazis] and their police escorts came under concerted attack by large numbers of anti-fascists. The police did not know what to do with their escorts and the fascists themselves did not know where the venue was because Neil Parrish and the rest of the organisers were sat in a pub at Victoria Station. When phone calls were made by the trapped fascists to the organisers demanding that they either be given the venue details or be rescued, they were told that they should try to make their way to Victoria where they would be told the location of the gig…

Eventually the police managed to get things under control and escorted the remaining fash to Temple tube station where they were put on a commandeered train out of the area. In the end, less than 400 got into the gig at the Yorkshire Grey pub in Eltham, south-east London. The anti-fascists, meanwhile, were broken up into small groups by the police, cordoned off and escorted on foot across the Thames towards central and north London…

The papers the next morning all carried reports of the “Battle of Waterloo” and on the whole the reports were fairly accurate, except for the Sunday Times, which attributed the whole thing to the Anti-Nazi League [an SWP front oganisation]. This might have been because the ANL actually sent out a press release claiming responsibility. On a similar note, I cannot let the occasion pass without mentioning a small lefty sect by the name of Workers’ Power, who amid all the carnage and rioting at Waterloo, actually tried to do a paper sale!

On a foggy night in [September] 1993, Ian Stuart died in a car-crash in Derbyshire. His death opened the door for Combat 18 to muscle in on the Blood and Honour cash cow.

Source : No Retreat, pp.193-199

About @ndy

I live in Melbourne, Australia. I like anarchy. I don't like nazis. I enjoy eating pizza and drinking beer. I barrack for the greatest football team on Earth: Collingwood Magpies. The 2024 premiership's a cakewalk for the good old Collingwood.
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281 Responses to Ian Stuart : Zero of the White Race, Skrewdriver, and “The Battle of Waterloo”

  1. Nordeman says:

    I feel inclined to express my opinions and even wish to further the attacks against Anarcho-Andy, but frankly it is a waste of time and effort. WHY? He lacks the inherent ability to comprehend what it is like to be one of the few Europeans in the world. Let’s put the inherently weak on the list of endangered species, then we’ll see how they feel. The fact is that, some people are born with a greater capacity to lead in a given social structure and others with less capacity do the dirty work. The anarchist attempt at overthrowing authoritative figures is just the genetically inferior man[‘]s attempt at making all equal who are not equal. Nature has made us this way and Andy…you can’t change that. The white flame will never die…nice try.

    [O]h, yes, and I do expect some immature reply like…”learn English” or “the doctor will see you now”…among other possible forms of pointless jargon.

    You might want to find something more productive to spend your time on instead of fighting for a worthless and godless idea like Anarchy. Besides, if there were true anarchy, you would be the target, not us. Open your [e]yes blind man.

    Good day chap!!!

  2. Lumpen says:

    I once made a blue flame. It didn’t die; I ran out of fart.

    White supremacists never seem to able to explain how the “inherently weak” and less capable are able to drag white people down so effectively and thoroughly. They usually try talk about “race traitors”, but are unable to explain how race then explains social relations, when the majority of white people think Nazis are a bit nutty and only fit to be on the business end of Indiana Jones’ whip.

    Besides, if there were true anarchy, you would be the target, not us.

    I stand humbled by the white man’s science.

  3. Garioch says:

    Andy,
    Every time I have felt in need of light relief for some time now I come in past here to watch you play with the pond life.
    I am endlessly amused by their antics and attempts to articulate what little goes on between their ears but fear that your attempts to educate them as to spelling, punctuation and the like will fall on fallow ground although I commend you for trying.
    For myself on the very few occasions I come across them now I still find that a swift forehead to the bridge of the nose will meet with a more immediate response and have them properly cowering like the dogs they are.
    Could you perhaps list a selection of Norse Gods names for them as I am getting tired of them all choosing Odin or Thor as their screen names, there were a plethora of these types and some variety would be easier on the eye.
    Do you think any of them realise that their hero I.S.D. had many very close physical relationships with other male boneheads?

  4. @ndy says:

    Garioch,

    I’ll see what I can do. Speaking of Lonely Dudes:

    Rise of far right risks fuelling racist fire
    Annabel Stafford
    The Age
    February 2, 2008

    The gathering in the backyard-cum-carport in Sydney’s south resembles a clandestine party organised by blokes who find it hard to get a girlfriend.

    Despite the baking hot afternoon sun, many wear black T-shirts, boots and leather vests. A rack in the corner of the yard is selling other T-shirts. Their messages: Speak English or Die and Skippy’s Rule OK.

    A thrash metal band has set up in the carport and party-goers slam their heads in time with the drums. “Prepare for war,” the singer yells, “leave our shores.” This is Australia Day, Australia First style.

    There are only about 25 people here and that includes the members of two metal bands that have come to perform. And not everyone admits to being a member of Australia First. Still, the party claims its way of thinking is spreading in Sydney…

    Lolz.

    Hail Andhrímnir!

  5. Garioch says:

    “find it hard to get a girlfriend.”

    As has been seen many times many of them are not trying too hard to look for a girlfriend and like all that male bonding stuff much more.

    “boots and leather vests”

    As that line may well illustrate.

    25 is ok for a city the size of Sydney, keep that amount about as pets and examples for the children as to what not to aspire to.

  6. bonehead says:

    wanker talking shit i was there we kicked in loads of reds

  7. @ndy says:

    Yes of course you were. I was there too, and stepping over the bodies of countless dead Reds, I took the following footage of Skrewdriver live on stage:

  8. Karl Marx says:

    The hate that the right wingers show is just a reflection of their inability to adapt to any society.

    It is such a shame they have small willies and no money with few prospects, its only natural that the stupid and ugly should turn their life’s frustrations onto others.

    Get a life you boneheads ! stop being angry and hateful towards your fellow human being.

    The English BNP leader has one eye and I know that he must have felt very small down the pub or at the schoolyard when that beautiful blonde crossed his path and rejected him (or completely dismissed him as even existing), the only way he got any recognition in this life is by drumming up hatred towards others from other like minded fools.

    I think truly enough is enough. Go back and re-evaluate your life and stop being paranoid! Nationalism destroys nations with millions killed. Don’t be fooled into these thug’s scheme, they have an inferiority complex but are in denial.

  9. ANDY1488HUTTHUTTHUTT says:

    Just wish you would leave the man (i.s.d) to rest in peace,,,the truth is that whichever way we go(left/right/middle of the road)we are all immoral and two faced.we are all hypocritEs and fools.life works its own way,so do what you do but enjoy it……

  10. Just Checkin' says:

    I’m white and proud – but my boyfriend is black and proud.

    Just wonderin’ why all boneheads are ugly – perhaps that is a prerequisite – and losers without any hope? Shouldn’t they be rounded up like a gaggle of idiots, and used for experimentation?

    Why can’t they join Ian Arsehole at his driving school?

  11. @ndy says:

    I think you may be being unfair on idiots JC. And I think the Violent Storm Driving School has taken the Skrewydriver’s place at the wheel. Who knows? They’re a weird mob, these melanin-deficient bozos. A therapist and some time spent in The Angry Corner is my suggestion.

  12. Just Checkin' says:

    my ancestors fought a war in order to prevent the likes of the uglies from gaining power. with a collective IQ of 0 it’s no wonder that the uglies really believe that white people are all zero IQers…?

    most of the uglies have no life, they are life’s disposable knickers – they are marginalised in society – they are not acceptable and neither are they influential. they just amuse themselves as only they know how. you r right andy… i know many likeable idiots – that was a bit unfair.

    perhaps they provide a good basis for the abortion argument? just a suggestion 😉

  13. @ndy says:

    Yeah. It’s kinda ironic JC. On the one hand these boneheads espouse White supremacy; on the other, they assume that all Whites are as stoopid as they are. “White power? Give ’em a golden shower!” as they say in the classics. And yeah: an excellent argument for retrospective abortions these malformed humans are.

  14. Jeremy the Myth says:

    Andy, what is your position on those who see multiculturalism as a negative thing in their communities?

    Also, white people who want an all white community without the need of violence, and hate?

  15. @ndy says:

    Jeremy the Myth:

    I feel sorry for those who believe that the existence of a number of different cultures within the one society is, in principle, a “negative thing”. Beyond that, I think that such attitudes often reflect a deeper-seated xenophobia: a fear and/or hatred of those deemed foreign. To the extent this phobia is one based upon ignorance, I think it’s possible to overcome it through education: that is, the honest attempt to enter into a dialogue with and in order to understand the Other (and through doing so one’s Self).

    I also think that ‘multiculturalism’ is a term often used where ‘multinationalism’ would be more appropriate, as ‘culture’ is, in this context, almost invariably associated with particular nations or peoples rather than cultures as such. The literal meaning of ‘culture’ is ‘way of life’. As such, societies, both contemporary and historical, are almost always composed of different cultures.

    In the Australian context, what is almost always absent a discussion of or an attack upon the concept and practice of ‘multiculturalism’ is the fact that, at least insofar as Government policy is concerned, ‘muliculturalism’ rests, quite consciously and deliberately, upon an acceptance of broader, more fundamental (that is, transcendent) values. That is, obedience to the law, respect for others, and so on and so forth.

    What is multiculturalism?

    In a descriptive sense multicultural is simply a term which describes the cultural and ethnic diversity of contemporary Australia. We are, and will remain, a multicultural society.

    As a public policy multiculturalism encompasses government measures designed to respond to that diversity. It plays no part in migrant selection. It is a policy for managing the consequences of cultural diversity in the interests of the individual and society as a whole.

    The Commonwealth Government has identified three dimensions of multicultural policy:

    * cultural identity: the right of all Australians, within carefully defined limited, to express and share their individual cultural heritage, including their language and religion;
    * social justice: the right of all Australians to equality of treatment and opportunity, and the removal of barriers of race, ethnicity, culture, religion, language, gender or place of birth; and
    * economic efficiency: the need to maintain, develop and utilize effectively the skills and talents of all Australians, regardless of background.

    These dimensions of multiculturalism are expressed in the eight goals articulated in the National Agenda (see chapter one). They apply equally to all Australians, whether Aboriginal, Anglo-Celtic or non-English speaking background; and whether they were born in Australia or overseas.

    There are also limits to Australian multiculturalism. These may be summarized as follows:

    * multicultural policies are based upon the premises that all Australians should have an overriding and unifying commitment to Australia, to its interests and future first and foremost;
    * multicultural policies require all Australians to accept the basic structures and principles of Australian society – the Constitution and the rule of law, tolerance and equality, Parliamentary democracy, freedom of speech and religion, English as the national language and equality of the sexes; and
    * multicultural policies impose obligations as well as conferring rights: the right to express one’s own culture and beliefs involves a reciprocal responsibility to accept the right of others to express their views and values.

    As a necessary response to the reality of Australia’s cultural diversity, multicultural policies aim to realize a better Australia characterized by an enhanced degree of social justice and economic efficiency.

    In other words, ‘multiculturalism’ exists and finds it’s most widespread expression through a liberal, democratic framework. As an anarchist, I don’t recognise the legitimacy of this framework, but I remain, nevertheless, broadly supportive of some such notion as ‘multculturalism’; certainly, I find most objections to it emanating from the right to be boring and stupid.

    As for your second question, I’m not sure I understand it. Thus, while I’m happy to acknowledge the existence of some small number of whites who wish to live in an all-white community, I think their reasons for doing so are essentially bankrupt. Which is to say, incoherent and/or racist. As such, I think this perspective to be equally boring and stupid as most if not all declarations of opposition to multiculturalism.

    I dunno. If a whitefella really wants to live in an all-white society, I think they should probably marry someone from Iceland, and go live there.

  16. Jeremy says:

    OK, but why demonise those who don’t wish for Australia to be multicultural. A lot of people in my community are weary of the Islamic presence in Australia. They see it as an evasion enforced upon them.

  17. @ndy says:

    “OK, but why demonise those who don’t wish for Australia to be multicultural.”

    For example?

    “A lot of people in my community are weary of the Islamic presence in Australia.”

    Uh-huh. Well, that’s unfortunate, I guess. But I tend to think that the Islamic presence in Australia, and its significance, is massively exaggerated. Australia has a population of roughly 21,250,000 people, approximately 350,000 of whom are classified as being Muslim. In other words, non-Muslim Australians account for approximately 98% of the total population, and massively outnumber the less than 2% of the population who are both Australian and Muslim. Beyond this, your claim is difficult to examine, as I believe it would be necessary to examine a) exactly who the people in your community are and b) the reasons they have for being “weary” of Muslims in Australia before I could respond more comprehensively. In the meantime, and in this context, it’s worthwhile noting that Australians are able to practice freedom of religion. In other words, even if some or even a “lot” of people in your community find Islam in some way objectionable, in practicing their religion Muslims are enacting their rights under Australian and international law, just as Christians and other religious practitioners do (and in general without being subject to condemnation or suspicion for so doing).

    “They see it as an evasion enforced upon them.”

    I assume that what you mean is that ‘a lot of people in my community are hostile towards Islam because they believe that the presence of Muslims in it is the result of an unjust imposition’.

    A few points.

    First, you don’t speak for anyone other than yourself.
    Secondly, even if it’s true that a lot of people perceive something to be the case, this does not mean it’s correct.
    Thirdly, unless the presence of Muslims in your community is somehow preventing those who complain of their existence from exercising their own ‘rights’, whatever hostility they express is more likely to be the result of religious (or possibly cultural) intolerance.
    Fourthly, it may be worthwhile considering that “a lot” of Muslims in your community are weary of religious bigots trying to make them feel inferior simply for practicing their religion.
    Finally, I wonder if your objection to ‘multiculturalism’ is in fact an objection to ‘Islam’.

    Do you support the idea of freedom of religion and of culture, or not?
    If someone expressed weariness with your presence in Australia, would they be entitled to seek to remove you from it? If not, why not?
    What, exactly, do you want?

  18. deano says:

    australians no history only what they grab from britian.andy your articulate intelligent like to mock other peoples opinions.but hey we curretnly live in a free world so shut up let people speak there mind,if you feel so strongly about the white pride here in the uk come and pat a visit we have a free speakers corner i,d love to see you there.talking of a racist society hows the indigenious peoples of australia doing are they still down trodden alcoholics carrying syphillis,that your much loved fore fasthers gave to them,go and fight their corner oh you already have your such a saint intervering in places were you should,nt you will get yourself into deep water one day and you,ll be proper fucked.hows your surf guys doing still embracing your lebenese friends,go and sort them out oh andy your such a wonderful saintly guy don,t you have fuck all else to do only sit here and try and be the comic i bet you laugh at all your best jokes don,t you,your amasing mother andy saviour of the?you don,t actually know who the fuck you are do you?some intellectual bet your a shit house when it comes to a row,big key board warrior.carry on.oh yes i have grammitcal errors and spelling but who really gives a shit you get my message keep posting.see you soon.

  19. @ndy says:

    deano,its not my fault youre cricket teams shit.

  20. skin88 says:

    […] teste di cazzo […] un solo grido: good night left side!!!!!!
    you r shit,only a little piece of red shit like you could believe in these … ian stuart lives in our hearts with our dux.
    dux nobis est,sieg heil,red shit

  21. Oi Boy says:

    The abuse of Skrewdriver as a band is stupid.

    I understand the people who insult Ian Stuart, right or wrong, but hey, let’s face it, his band DID make some decent music. Saying that the band were pathetic as mentioned above is a hopeless argument, because of the subjectivity of music. I’m not a racist, but I love listening to Skrewdriver. It’s good music, and even if you don’t support it, isn’t it interesting to see other people’s viewpoints on this issue you all seem so passionate about?
    Skrewdriver’s music does show an interesting and relevant viewpoint, however extreme, and to rip it off and attempt to shut down those who like it just because of the singer’s beliefs is ridiculous.

  22. @ndy says:

    Oi Boy,

    Obviously, whether or not Skrewdiver made good music is a matter of taste. So too, to some extent, is their politics (aside from the first few singles and first album, which were relatively ‘apolitical’). Neo-Nazis love ’em, and since Ian’s death have organised annual gigs to commemorate his wrapping himself ’round a tree. I don’t find racism or fascism especially interesting in the sense you use the term; rather, it’s fucking daft and — yes — pathetic. I’ve got no idea what you mean when you refer to ‘ripping it off’, but shutting down groups like B&H and the Hammerskins is I think a good thing because they’re neo-Nazi scum.

  23. sid says:

    IAN STUART,R.I.P BROTHER YOU DID US PROUD,YOU ANTIFA WOG LOVERS ARE NOTHING BUT BULLSHITTERS,YOU SHOULD ALL BE LINED UP AND FUCKIN SHOT.

  24. @ndy says:

    YOU’RE A BIG SILLY SID.

  25. sid says:

    just been reading through this bullshit again and realised that you are in australia.
    that would be why your so gobby,being thousands of miles away.

    nothing silly about me,your the silly one who thinks multiculturism is a good idea.
    you try living in england surrounded by immigrant paedo/rapist/muggers,muslim terrorists and blacks stabbing each other on a daily basis.

    WAKE UP,YOUR NOT IN COLLEGE ANYMORE TROTSKY,BET YOU WEAR A CHE T-SHIRT,HE WAS A TERRORIST ASWELL.

    PUBLIC ENEMY ARE RACIST,FEAR OF A BLACK PLANET IS MUSIC FOR BLACK YOUTH,IF YOUR WHITE THEY WOULDNT PISS ON YOU IF YOU WERE ON FIRE.

    EVERY SINGLE RACE ON EARTH CANT STAND THE SIGHT OF EACH OTHER SO WHY MIX THEM?

  26. Garioch says:

    Sid you’re so scared aint you? You wouldn’t piss on anyone because it’s dribbling down your leg all the time and you’ve got none left you pathetic coward.
    Grow up and attempt to stop being such a snivelling wimp. Would you “try living in England”: yeah ‘cos it’s like really really frightening there ain’t it?
    Can’t go out your door can you? Not if you’re as soft as you are and loud noises and people of a different skin tone scare you that much.
    England the new most dangerous location on the earth (if you’re a 12 year old half wit who checks under his bed every night for monsters).
    Are you really not embarrassed coming across as such a big girl’s blouse? Have you checked to make sure there’s something between your legs other than urine stains?
    Can you write some more as I like something to keep me amused?

  27. @ndy says:

    sid?

    Harden the fuck up!

  28. sid says:

    big words from little girls,you really are clueless commi scum arent ya!

    my bollocks are bigger than your heads.did you take offence to what i said?or is it that the truth scares you.

    and what is this about england being a big scary place,im not scared of anyone,especially arseholes like you two.

    garioch.are you a homo sexual,did i offend your homo boyfriend @ndy p@ndy?
    big girls commi blouses,dont bother replying,ive said all i can be bothered with on this queers forum.

    14/88

    i.s.d rip

  29. sid says:

    one more thing i forgot gayrioch,che guevara IS DEAD,and he was nothing but a pathetic coward anyway,anyone can shoot a gun,even you,or maybe not youd probably shoot yourself in the foot.

    and out of interest i watched that video of what looked like chopper reid.what was the point in showing me that?is he your mate?is he coming after me?no he isnt,and hed tell you two shirt lifters to HARDEN UP.like you do every night to each other!

    goodbye girls.

    14/88

  30. john says:

    wher bis then du rotes zwein? du kens unser ian ja kar nicht. such mal eine arbeit du drek sou.hail ian steuart donalsen fur immer und ewig 88

  31. john says:

    we will never 4 ghet jou WHITE BROHTER. jou are the diamand in the dust.HAIL IAN STEUART DONALSON

  32. @ndy says:

    It takes a great person to get a idea
    But don’t go public it’ll ruin the plan
    Because no matter how clever and original you are
    You’re only as good as your fans

    Each man kills the thing he loves
    The fisherman caught in his own net
    It’s frightening that you deserve
    The audience that you get

  33. Garioch says:

    What – that’s it Sid? Some incoherent mumbling about Che – someone I have no particular time for but certainly about as far from being a coward as it’s possible to be (and I have no idea what that had to do with anything) – and something about guns, which I seem to remember you being rather keen on a few posts ago as long as people were lined up and unarmed which would be about right for your ilk.
    Magnificent, I am in awe of your devastating wit. Pray I don’t ever run into you in England as I’ll slap you stupid ya wee child. I’ll let you in on a secret here. I have no idea what Andy’s sexuality is but I do know what Mr. Donaldson’s was and he swung both ways which is a pity for you as you obviously missed the chance of getting all moist and frotting with your hero now that he smells even worse than he did while alive.
    Oh and the (I hope) drunk and writing challenged John you can’t even get your bisexual hero’s name right. For the love of God toughen up you’re an embarrassment to the human race.

  34. dj says:

    Wow, can’t type in English or Deutsch.

    Bilingual FAIL.

  35. sid says:

    im praying alright.im shitting myself that a wimpy commi twat like you is threatening me.why dont you come over and put your money where your BIG mouth is.

    your wrightings on waterloo is laughable.you havent put halve the truth up you pricks.

    and your a lying twat for putting up ian stuart as bisexual.

    Aryans will always come out on top,and your kind cant punch your way out of wet paper bags.

    so toughen up girls.

  36. @ndy says:

    You make a very interesting case sid. Next time, get Mum or Dad to help with the spelling.

  37. Garioch says:

    Sid where would I be coming over to? I could just drive down if you were in Englandershire where they seem to breed many of you.

    You can’t handle your hero being into a bit of man love? Why do you think he was such a big mate of Mr. Crane?

    If that disturbs you God help your fragile psyche if you ever have a good look at the rest of your Aryan leaders.

    What is it that you normally come out on top of by the way? Or rather which man is it you normally come out on top of?

  38. sid says:

    what are you on?
    where would the world be without my inventions you twat.
    what have other races done in this world?
    the most intelligent minds in the history of the human race were mine!
    thats a good shot of wigan mike by the way,i secretly masturbate over it!

  39. Garioch says:

    Sid that being the case (and it is of course obvious and quite hysterical nonsense to anyone who took even the briefest look at historical fact rather than very bad RAC album covers) where on earth did it all go so horribly wrong with you?
    Have you personally invented anything other than a cunning device to bypass all know spell checkers?
    The last line is the first thing you have posted thus far I can actually believe.

  40. watty says:

    @NDY & IS SILLY MATE,I think you two must be fags as your always talking about them.I can see you two now one with pink hair & che T shirt,The other with dreadlocks hahahaha wanting to be a nigger just like the silly twat out of UB 40.When the time come red lefty twats will be strung up from the nearest lampost.I would love to meet next time im smashing the reds. BYE BYE DICK HEAD. SIEG=HEIL. PS 88 SID.

  41. Garioch says:

    Watty I was a skinhead before you were what should have been a wankstain on your father’s unwashed underpants, remain one and will be one after you have forgotten all about it and have reverted to some jelled and greased Ronaldo like creation as all of your ilk tend to do.

    I’ll be in Hamburg in a couple of months, if you want to try your hand then feel free to drop me a line and I’ll give you directions so you can find a host of red and anarchist skinheads you can attempt to beat up.

    I shall also provide the directions to the nearest casualty unit for you.

  42. Jona says:

    Wow! You would be beat death! Here in good ol USA! Andy is it? Never heard of you! But we sure know who Ian Stuart and Skrewdriver is! Clowns like you are laughed at here in the States! I am certain you never ever ever said a word to a real skin! Because if you even looked at me wrong I would choke you out or kick u to sleep! USMCS Skins forever!

  43. Jona says:

    Wow, Look at all the sites dedicated to Ian Stuart and Skrewdriver! That seems to have a lasting effect! And how many our dedicated to this site? Ha ha ha! Ian has the last laugh!

  44. @ndy says:

    Jona,

    I’ve spoken to skinheads (real skinheads like Garioch) on many occasions. I generally don’t speak to boneheads however, which is what you’re referring to, although they’re free to comment on my blog. I’m not sure what purpose you think is served by making silly claims, but Skrewdriver fans are a sorry lot, whether in Australia or the United States.

    Regarding sites dedicated to Ian Stuart and Skrewdriver, it’s true that there are a number of them. On the other hand, this blog entry is one of the most popular; more popular, according to Google, than all but one or two.

    Btw, Ian’s not laughing. He’s dead.

    😆

  45. "@ndy" says:

    me namo es andio und I like writing much words to make me seem smart. I am so communistic that my shit comes out red!

  46. @ndy says:

    If Ian weren’t six feet underground, I’m sure he’d be groaning too. And the Spanish is ‘Mi nombre es…’.

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