Update : September 25, 2008: A good (if typically flawed) biography of Ian and Skrewdriver, ‘The Legacy of Ian Stuart’, Fat Richard Warwick, Swindle, No.3. Note that while German label Rock-O-Rama — on which Skrewdriver released an album (Hail The New Dawn) and single (Invasion/On The Streets) in 1984 — has since evolved into Belgian label Pure Impact, a fascist-sympathising businessman, Herbert Egoldt, remains at the helm (if in the shadows). Note too that ex-Skrewydriver bassist Murray Holmes is back playing gigs Down Under with The Quick & The Dead, and with the support of local (Perth) punk band The Homicides.
- Above : Front cover image, No Retreat: The Secret War Between Britain’s Anti-Fascists and the Far Right
Neo-Nazi skinhead Ian Stuart Donaldson (b.1957) was killed in a car accident in 1993, and ever since he’s a been a subject of veneration — well, for a handful of other boneheads anyway — as well as derision (everyone else). Before he died a long-overdue death, however, Stuart managed — as the founder of Blood & Honour and vocalist for Skrewdriver — to earn himself a reputation as being one of England’s most notorious boneheads… as well as being among the top one hundred of the finest musicians to ever come out of Blackpool with-a-Grammar-school-education and to then die-in-a-car-accident-in-1993.
In an interview in some zine or other, Stuart is alleged to have remarked (before his death… presumably) that:
I am not the type of person to creep and crawl to a bunch of weak-kneed, pacifist lefties and two-faced Zionists. One must be honest to people about one’s beliefs and especially when the survival of our very race is at stake. I have no doubt that anyone who expounds patriotic beliefs has a little black mark put against his name, and by now I must have a massive black mark near my name. C’est la guerre.
Mad as a cut snake, obviously.
But that wasn’t all there was to Stuart. For, as well being quite a daft bugger and a god-awful musician,* he was also a coward and a bully:
Following the events of May 27 [1989: B&H stupidly tried to hold a gig in London — ‘The Main Event’ — and got their arses kicked by Anti-Fascist Action], Ian Stuart left his house in King’s Cross and moved to Derbyshire. [AFA] heard rumours that the Chelsea Headhunters were trying to muscle in on on the [B&H] cash cow and were making threatening noises in his direction. There was, however, another reason for his swift departure from London, and that was the activities of a certain ex-Manc by the name of Hefty who harassed and attacked the [B&H] leader at every given opportunity.
The area around King’s Cross and Euston was bandit country. Lone fascists, small groups of [neo-Nazis] and even whole firms came to grief in the streets around the two stations. Hefty and a few other lads, namely AJ, Carl, Pete G, and Gavin, used to operate around that area and chanced upon Stuart on a number of occasions. They gave him and his followers a few serious hidings at various times, but the event that seemed to give Stuart the real horrors was when he went out early one morning to buy a newspaper and a pint of milk, and was hit across the head by a large Mancunian wielding a Lucozade bottle. Ian Stuart was a coward and a bully. He liked to throw his weight around when the odds were in his favour, but when confronted on any number of occasions by AFA lads he legged it and left his comrades to face the music…
[NB: “The Headhunter heyday was back in the mid-1980s when Steven Hickmott led the group… Hickmott was eventually picked up by police in the country’s first undercover football operation. Sentenced to ten years for organising violence (later overturned after police evidence was questioned), Hickmott was replaced with Chris “Chubby” Henderson, a long-time [neo-Nazi] activist and singer with the Oi band Combat 84.” Locally, Combat 84 — alongside of Condemned 84 and a number of other racist/fascist Oi! bands — is available through Deadset Music.]
Stuart also had the privilege in his too-long life of being a failed businessman: between 1987 and 1989, AFA managed to close down the few shops in Carnaby Street scabby enough to actually stoop to selling his music and merchandise, leaving his few fans unhappy shoppers… and B&H humiliated.
Below is an account of ‘The Battle of Waterloo’ by a former member of Manchester AFA, Dave Hann; the battle between boneheads and antifa taking place the very last time Skrewdriver tried to play London, and a little over twelve months before Stuart made his final descent into Hell.
Curiously, it’s a little known fact that, at the time of his death, Derby Coroner Peter Ashworth concluded:
We are still no nearer finding out what caused this tragic accident. All we can say is that, whatever his parent’s defects, Stuart became less easy to control. But there must have been some other factor which contributed to the crash, even if Ian had not grabbed the wheel in a way many others in the same situation would never have done.
So, as we remember Ian the Bonehead, we should also remember all the other Boneheads.
And send them our very best wishes.
STAGE BOTTLES – Dead But Not Forgiven
- Ian couldn’t drive a car
As we all know
He trusted too much in all his gods
And though he was a human being
We don’t feel any sorrow for him
Now we got rid of one of those cunts
He’s been one of our most important enemies
So we forget our respect for life
Cause all he did was senseless shit
[…]
Now we’re here and having our fun
Having our fun and thinking about him
He’s been the one who misused the word Skinhead
He himself was never one – he was a fucking Bonehead
[*Some conspiracy theorists maintain that ‘the Jews’ are ‘the ones what are responsible’ for not only Stuart’s ‘accidental’ death but his ‘deliberate’ birth too; seemingly on the basis that his music — being so unbearably mediocre — was devised solely in order to discredit the bonehead image, and to ruin the cottage White Power? Give ‘Em A Golden Shower! muzak industry that was borne in his flatulent wake.]
The Battle of Waterloo, September 12th, 1992
In August 1992, posters proclaiming “Skrewdriver Back in London” were spotted in various parts of the country. They were advertising a Blood and Honour [B&H] concert due to take place in London on September 12. At first we assumed it was a hoax, as Skrewdriver hadn’t even attempted to play in London since The Main Event, but as time went by it became obvious that it was anything but a hoax.
The concert was once more touted to be a massive affair, with up to 2,000 [neo-Nazis] expected to attend and several bands playing, including Skrewdriver, Skullhead, No Remorse and a Swedish band called Dirlewanger. There was a rumour flying about that a mainstream music promoter was willing to seriously back [B&H] if the gig proved a success and any opposition was muted or destroyed. Once again the gig was at a secret location with a re-direction point, which this time was at Waterloo Station at 5.30pm. We heard on the grapevine that both the BNP and the British Movement (BM) had been approached to help with security for the event.
By coincidence, a week before the concert the AFA’s Unity Carnival was due to take place on Hackney Downs in London. A request was made for stewards to attend from around the country in case the fash tried a pre-emptive strike, but nothing untoward happened and the carnival passed off peacefully. Maybe the fash were hoping that if they left us alone, we would leave them alone. Fat chance.
The carnival was cold and rain-swept, but at least it gave us a chance to alert an already interested audience to the following weekend’s events. In the meantime, London AFA contacted all the various anti-racist and anti-fascist groups with details of what was to happen at Waterloo, but no-one seemed interested. The ANL suddenly decided that they were holding a march in Thornton Heath, more than fifteen miles away. So it looked like we were on our own, but then we never seriously expected anything else.
Neil Parrish, who had become one of [B&H]’s main organisers, boasted to the media that he would be available at 4.30pm on the station concourse to give interviews. A Sky News reporter was worried that he wouldn’t be able to find the bones and was told that as they were expecting between 1,000 and 2,000 at the station, “you’ll have no trouble finding us”. By a strange coincidence, 4.30pm was when London AFA announced that they were also calling a counter-demonstration at the station.
We took about twenty stewards down from Manchester. All the usual suspects were present, including Gerry, Steve, Wigan Mike, Gary the Axe, Solo, Big Dave and the rest. We eventually arrived in the Smoke at 1pm and met up with the London AFA lads in a pub on the Holloway Road. AFA groups from around the country were arriving all the time, swelling numbers to about 200. The atmosphere was tense because everyone knew that this was the big one. It really was a case of do or die. We had a fair-sized mob out that day, with good numbers from Liverpool, Doncaster and London itself, but it looked tiny in comparison to what I knew we could expect to find at Waterloo.
I tried to push all thoughts of what lay ahead to the back of my mind. I was nervous and tense but did my best to appear laid back and unconcerned. Sometimes it just hits you like that. Sometimes you’re really buzzing and up for it, while at others you get a queasy feeling in the pit of your stomach. Either way you have to force yourself to stay cool, especially when you are in a position where other people are relying on you to keep a clear head.
At 3.20pm, AFA’s Stewards’ Group appeared on the station concourse at Waterloo, causing a number of bones to flee for their lives. Three boneheads drinking in the station were set upon. The police tried to push their way through the AFA mob crowding at the entrance to the bar in an attempt to arrest those inside, and in doing so missed the guilty parties making good their escape through another exit not ten feet away. We heard rumours afterwards that these first casualties were in fact plainclothes police sent to Waterloo to infiltrate [B&H].
Both Steve and Gerry were involved in early exchanges with the [neo-Nazis], but Gerry hurt his hand punching someone on the side of the head. He spent the rest of the afternoon complaining about it. “I think I’ve broken ma fuckin’ knuckle”, he moaned.
More boneheads were attacked as they entered the station, and the police were forced to cordon off the [neo-Nazis] in the middle of the station concourse. Along with several other AFA stewards I infiltrated the cordon. Once inside I sidled up behind the biggest bonehead I could find and started kicking him surreptitiously in the back of the ankles.
“You’re going to die when we get out of here”, I whispered into his ear.
He tried to ignore me, but he was shaking like a leaf.
“Did you hear me, you baldy wanker?” I goaded. “When we get out of here I’m going to kill you.”
All the colour had drained out of him and for a moment I thought he was going to faint. His misery was brought to an end when the police decided to escort the [neo-Nazis] out of the station to safety, but once outside, and out of view of the CCTV cameras, they were astonished when their escort suddenly imploded from within as the anti-fascists turned on the boneheads. The bonehead I was goading earlier had shot off like a rabbit, and I only managed to land a couple of glancing blows on the back of his head.
This scenario was re-enacted several times over the next hour and a half as we continued to resist police attempts to force us off the station concourse. While this game of cat and mouse was going on, other groups of anti-fascists were ambushing boneheads coming up the escalators from the tube station.
I was arrested by the Transport Police at Waterloo Station during one of these scuffles, but for some reason I was never charged with anything, and to my surprise they released me an hour or so later with a warning to leave the immediate area or risk being arrested again. I ignored the warning of course. There was no way I was going to miss this.
The Transport Police at Waterloo Station have a little office at the side of the concourse, and I basically took two steps out of the front door and I was smack bang in the middle of a full-scale riot again. Boneheads were still being chased and battered everywhere you looked, and the police had completely lost control of the situation.
By 5pm, there were nearly 1,000 anti-fascists on the concourse and fights were still breaking out all over the place. Shortly afterwards, the station was shut down at the request of the manager, freeing AFA from the responsibility of holding the concourse any longer and allowing us to surge out into the streets to confront the groups of boneheads mobbing up outside. Neil Parrish was nowhere to be seen.
Everywhere you looked boneheads were being battered and chased. A group of fifty right-wing casuals got themselves trapped under a footbridge, and despite being surrounded by riot police they came under attack from all sides, including an aerial bombardment of broken quarry tiles from the footbridge above…
Elsewhere, individuals and small groups arriving on foot or by car were picked off as they approached the station. One carload of bones was trapped when the driver made the unfortunate mistake of leaving his window wound down, providing an opportunistic anti-fascist with the chance to reach in and turn his engine off and remove the keys before the vehicle was attacked. The immobile car was nearly turned over.
I saw one panic-stricken bonehead run the entire length of the street with his arms covering his head to protect himself. A sensible enough precaution except for the fact that he couldn’t see where he was going and kept running into groups of anti-fascists who gave him the occasional dig as he ran past them. Eventually someone put him out of his misery and tripped him up. I caught him a beauty as he fell, my boot going upwards as he was falling forwards. Within seconds he was unconscious.
Four stations had now been shut down in the area due to “rioting”, including Charing Cross, making it difficult for anyone to reach Waterloo, although a large mob of bones arrived on foot via the footbridge across the Thames. They soon wished they hadn’t as they immediately came under attack. A number of football supporters from various clubs, including Arsenal, QPR, Millwall and Chelsea also found their way to the area and joined one side or the other according to their political beliefs.
The football supporters mostly arrived at Waterloo in ones or twos, or in small groups. Some were attempting to make their way home after the match, while others were attracted to the area by radio reports of the rioting. Millwall and Chelsea arrived mob-handed. Chelsea, as expected, were pretty much on the side of [B&H]. The situation with Millwall was less clear-cut. Everyone expected them to be 100 per cent behind the fash but when one of Millwall’s main men was approached by Nicky Cooper of the NF pleading for help on [B&H]’s behalf, he got more than he bargained for. He was apparently sent sprawling by a vicious punch and told, “We’ve come to kick their heads in, not go to their fucking stupid gig”. However, another well-known face at Millwall, “Tags” or “Taggart”, collapsed with a heart attack in the middle of the fascist ranks after coming under an anti-fascist bombardment of bricks and paving slabs.
Skirmishes continued all around Waterloo as the [neo-Nazis] and their police escorts came under concerted attack by large numbers of anti-fascists. The police did not know what to do with their escorts and the fascists themselves did not know where the venue was because Neil Parrish and the rest of the organisers were sat in a pub at Victoria Station. When phone calls were made by the trapped fascists to the organisers demanding that they either be given the venue details or be rescued, they were told that they should try to make their way to Victoria where they would be told the location of the gig…
Eventually the police managed to get things under control and escorted the remaining fash to Temple tube station where they were put on a commandeered train out of the area. In the end, less than 400 got into the gig at the Yorkshire Grey pub in Eltham, south-east London. The anti-fascists, meanwhile, were broken up into small groups by the police, cordoned off and escorted on foot across the Thames towards central and north London…
The papers the next morning all carried reports of the “Battle of Waterloo” and on the whole the reports were fairly accurate, except for the Sunday Times, which attributed the whole thing to the Anti-Nazi League [an SWP front oganisation]. This might have been because the ANL actually sent out a press release claiming responsibility. On a similar note, I cannot let the occasion pass without mentioning a small lefty sect by the name of Workers’ Power, who amid all the carnage and rioting at Waterloo, actually tried to do a paper sale!
On a foggy night in [September] 1993, Ian Stuart died in a car-crash in Derbyshire. His death opened the door for Combat 18 to muscle in on the Blood and Honour cash cow.
Source : No Retreat, pp.193-199
You have no clue what you are talking about! You are the true bone-head.
I would suggest that yr comment is a perfect illustration of boneheadedness, courtney: all mouth, no trousers.
SOY FRANCO DE MAR DEL PLATA, ARGENTINA.
MUY BUENA LA PAGINA.
ACCION ANTIRACISTA.
PUNX & SKINS.
Hola franKo,
Soy Andres de Melbourne, Australia.
Muchas gracias.
¡Solidaridad internacional!
OH MY GOD, I DONT THINK ANY OF WOT I HAVE JUST READ IS ACTUALLY TRUE…
STILL OF COURSE THE LEFTY SCUM HAS TO LIE I SUPPOSE TO CON PEOPLE THAT THERE [sic] RIGHT, AGAIN.
DUH HELLO WIGAN DUH MIKE,
OH MY GODWIN, YOU OBVIOUSLY DON’T THINK — IT MAKE BRAIN HURT.
BUT MAYBE YOU RIGHT. MAYBE IAN STILL LIVE. SELL ROASTED CHESTNUT OR USED-CAR BY SIDE OF ROAD. WHILE PLAY BANJO.
IT ZOG CONSPIRACY TO KEEP TRUTH FROM PUBLIC!
CONTROLLED-MEDIA LIE! IAN LIVE STILL! WATERLOO BIG SUCCESS FOR BONEHEAD!
BONEHEAD FIRST TAKE WIGAN, THEN TAKE WORLD! IAN LEAD US TO GLORY, PLAY BANJO! NUMBER ONE SMASH HIT!
(Again.)
ANDY.
ARE YOU ON DRUGS, OR ARE YOU TRYING TO BE FUNNY?
IF YOURE ON DRUGS, THAT EXPLAINS YOUR MENTALITY, IF YOU WERE TRYING TO BE FUNNY, THEN IM AFRAID YOU FAILED, AS I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE WATERLOO INCIDENT RETARD, OR MAYBE I SHOULD BE MORE SPECIFIC NEXT TIME.
OK ERRRM ANDY ERRRM.
Wigan Mike,
STOP SHOUTING.
In answer to yr questions:
I am not on drugs.
But I am funny. Very funny.
(I’ve got a certificate and everything.)
So are you… but in a ‘special’ kind of way.
(I’m sure you’ve got a certificate and everything too.)
Errrm, Waterloo, errrm.
B&H got their arses kicked. It was a farce. It was the last time B&H tried to organise a ‘big gig’ in London, following which the best they (you) could do was organise a gig in some scout hall in some rural village.
Well, until 1994…
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AFA Press Release
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“COMBAT 18 — BACK TO BASICS
As Anti-Fascist Action (AFA) predicted, the fascist Blood and Honour concert organized as a tribute to dead fascist Ian Stuart and planned for January 15, 1994 ended as a replay of The Battle of Waterloo (a major rout for Blood and Honour in September 1992), this time between fascist stewards and the riot police. After their first choice venue in Beckontree had been rumbled by AFA, Combat 18 (the militant fascist group organizing the show) directed their supporters to the Wellington (an old British Movement pub from the 80s), near Waterloo Station. Earlier in the day at around 4.30 pm. one hundred and fifty AFA militants took advantage of the confusion caused by other anti-fascist groups (the Anti-Nazi League and Youth Against Racism in Europe) and the concentration of police at Beckontree and Barking, and descended unexpectedly on the Little Driver pub in Bow Road, the nerve centre of the fascist operation on the day. Police managed to stop the AFA advance just yards from the pub, when the fascists scattered as a flare fired from the advance hit a nearby bridge. After Waterloo, C18 took over security for Blood and Honour events, talking of a “back to basics” return to secret gigs organized on a word of mouth basis. The events of January 15, 1994 were a disaster in turn for C18 and the “back to basics” strategy.
The arrival of AFA at the centre of operations caused total panic and confusion with one of C18’s leading activists seeking refuge in the back of a police car. AFA militants were forced by the police into a sealed train and taken from Bow Road to Earls Court, throwing the rail network into chaos. Later in the evening, about 8.00 pm., the ANL were attacked by the police at Earls Court. In the confusion AFA regrouped and re-emerged at 9.30 pm., at Waterloo where the fascists were attempting to hold their gig. Police later described the ability of AFA to find the opposition as “uncanny”.
News of the arrival of over one hundred AFA militants in the immediate vicinity caused C18 organisation at the Wellington to internally combust. Initially the fascists wanted to get out, seconds later the riot police smashed their way in. Badly beaten fascists, covered in blood, were dragged face down from the pub and laid on the pavement. The pub smashed, the gig was cancelled. Fascists attempting to flee the Wellington met a similar fate, at the hands of AFA militants in the area. For C18 and Blood and Honour this has to be seen as a major disaster. For AFA, with all the players – ANL, YRE, C18, Blood and Honour and the Met in the arena – it is a triumph. It was AFA’s intelligence gathering capacity which revealed the redirection points and the planned venues. On the day AFA controlled the play, were ahead of the game and made all the decisive moves.”
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Joe Reilly, ‘It Woz AFA Wot Done It!’, *Red Action*, Vol 3, No 6, April / May 1999:
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“In fact, while generally not as acclaimed, as either ‘The Main Event’ or the ‘Battle of Waterloo’ encounters, events around ‘The Little Driver’ pub in Bow, E. London proved to be the final nail in the B&H coffin. And as a by-product the beginning of the end for C18.
As soon as night fell a 150 strong AFA stewards group advanced on the pub. Initially, about 50 C18 emerged to do battle, but whether they were unnerved by a flare hitting a bridge overhead, or the ‘Zulu’ chant of the menacing mob, they broke ranks and were there for the taking. A complete rout was prevented by the intervention of mounted and baton wielding police from a station opposite, and the attack lost momentum. Leading C18 figures, utterly humiliated, were seen begging for police protection, one even jumping unsolicited into the back of a cop’s car in an effort to get out of the area.
As a result it was the last time B&H would even attempt to play in the capital. And worse everybody knew why. C18 after being brought into existence in 1991, to protect the far-right, were now shown to be incapable of protecting even themselves. It was probably not entirely a coincidence that within weeks of the debacle, the BNP choose to declare that “there would be no more marches, meetings, punch-ups”. C18 meanwhile, clearly incapable of sustaining the media myth of invincibility (a myth carefully nurtured by *Searchlight* incidentally) began to turn inward on itself. For them, the gig, forgive the pun, was up. After The Little Driver the C18/B&H operation limped along only for a while, before ending in ignominy, betrayal and ultimately grisly murder.”
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Truth hurts eh?
tosser! if you had any friggin bottle you ‘n’ lil fatboy cam would show your faces.
nothin’ but gutless leftwinger scum… tisk tisk tisk 🙁
ouch.
ill tell you whats gutless, was when a group of dickheads bullied a woman. importantly (but off the topic), my grandfather didnt fight in the second world war so a goose-stepping cockhead like you could hijack aussie pride, shit-for-brains.
@ndy: crikey, its cold down here. go the hawks!
shit, i thought you was being all irony ’til i read you supported the hawks.
piss and poo rules!
Ah yes, the Little Driver. Memories of another life in London all those years ago.. Dying for a piss whilst being taken by private tube, with a police escort, to the other side of the city.
Don’t worry my fellow patriots, this Andy can’t even type a straight sentence to why he believes in anarchism.
Been drinking again Mick?
!What a load of shit talk! Ian was not a coward. As if you lefty social do-gooders would stand and get your [asses] flogged and heads stomped, you [U]ni student scum are so noble and brave. [I] hope dirty [M]uslim [P]akis[tanis] rape your kids!
Gosh and bother and tish and fiffle. Such a potty mouth! I think that your parents should demand a refund from the finishing school you attended young lady!
Dave Hann: ‘A couple of friends of mine jumped him before a Blood and Honour gig at Swiss Cottage, and managed to hit him a couple of times before he ran away. At the gig afterwards, he deliberately left the blood to dry on his forehead, so that he could appear more heroic, and then went on stage and claimed that he had fought off a whole mob of “reds” single-handedly.’
Sounds like a real hero, TripleA.
You are the race traitor red scum that give this country a bad name.
Obviously you are proud to be only 9% of white british in the U.K.
Ian [stuart] donaldson was the voice of britain and he would be turning in his grave that commies like you killed him […] as you cant stand the truth.
[You] red commie scum are talking out of your arses [and] cant get your tongues out of the russian arseholes.
go back to worshipping your zog machine.
14/88
i was there in 92 and just wish i came across you! all hard with your words which are probably lies anyway as we battered you before you all ran away like the cowards that you have always been.
if i had bumped into you i would have ripped off your [head] and used it as a football you prick.
Hey SKIN88,
English not your first language eh?
1) I’m not sure what “country” you’re referring to (“You are the race traitor red scum that give this country a bad name”), but I live in Australia, and am of ‘Anglo-Celtic’ descent. As for being a race traitor, I find myself cursed in that I find women of all creeds and colours attractive, so yeah, ‘would-be-if-I-could-be’ I guess. ‘Red scum’? Hmmm. Tough one that. Would ‘anarchist scum’ be acceptable to you? I’d prefer it.
2) I’m not quite sure how I could be “proud to be only 9% of white [B]ritish in the U.K.” — unless perhaps there’s been some kind of terrible disaster in the UK overnight and 99.99% of the population has somehow died, and I’m about to be kidnapped and transported to England, Scotland and/or Wales… in which case, I might be ‘proud’, I dunno… can you give me some more time to think about it?
3) Ian was the voice of Ian. I doubt he’s turning in his grave, as I expect he’s probably dead by now… well, unless you’re suggesting that he’s a zombie or something, forever condemned to walk the Earth, moaning ‘White Power’. Or something.
4) “[You] red commie scum are talking out of your arses [and] cant get your tongues out of the [R]ussian arseholes.” SKIN88, you don’t happen to have an obsession with arses do you? Russian arses in particular? I mean don’t get me wrong — I don’t mind, honest — just asking is all.
5) “[G]o back to worshipping your zog machine.” Cheers. I was actually in the middle of oiling it when you rang.
Big fat antifa hugs ‘n’ kisses,
@ndy.
@ndy… you sound about 14.
and if ian stuart was around today… people like you wouldn’t be talking you would be all scared of him and his master race.
all this stuff being said about ian stuart has only been said after he died.
you were all scared of him when he was alive. Talk shit GET HIT.
Anti_Arab… If I sound about 14, that’s because I sup daily from the fountain of youth.
As for the rest, you’re just being silly and pretentious.
All this stuff about Ian being a racist idiot was said to him numerous times during his short life; it was true then, and it remains so now.
The bloke was a loser.
Now he’s a dead loser. Wherever you go, there you are.
@ndy i have read all your utter shit now please die. White Pride Worldwide.
Dear bolloxpig,
(If that is your real name…) You are the second person in the space of 24 hours to request or otherwise indicate that I can and in fact should die. As I stated in response to a previous request, I shall indeed die, as must we all. But unless I choose otherwise, the time and circumstances surrounding my death remain unknown. Short Pants Romance.
@ndy, fortunately people like you are very scarce throughout the world. I can see no use for people like yourself & your existence is merely a burden on society. The Aryan race is & always will be the superior race worldwide & you are not part of it. White Pride Worldwide.
Dear bolloxpig,
Phooey. People like me are everywhere. I’m quite ordinary, you see. Who asked you anyway? And what’s your opinion of my use value got to do with Ian the Skrewydriver? I’m not a part of the Aryan race? Buggered if I know. Says who? Someone called ‘bolloxpig’? Uh-huh. Red sky at night, shepherd’s delight.
@ndy. Your use value is connected to the late great Ian Stuart because people like you fail to see the greatness of people like Ian Stuart. If more people had listened to his voice whilst he was still alive, maybe England wouldn’t be the multi racial shithole that it has become. People with opinions like yours ruin countries. White Pride Worldwide.
I feel proud to be associated with such powerfully persuasive purveyors of rhetoric through virtue of my lower ratio of melanin than people’s whose genetic heritage is different. My pasty skin wrapped heart has filled with pale pride so powerful that I shall live my life solely using products and knowledge emanating from Western Europe and those societies and peoples who can be said to be closely aligned to Western European cultural traditions. I shall thus cease to use mathematics and all modern technologies depending on mathematics from this moment.
dj,
This would appear to be the most sensible course of action. Fat, Round, Six Foot Underground: Ian Stuart, Ian Stuart.
Ah Andy, but are you from Aryan-Nordic stock? I’m afraid the Aryan-Celtics, the majority of white Australians, are only good at imitating culture (which explains Australian Idol, Big Brother and the revival of Australian Gladiator). Much like the unicorn, the Nords have magic powers that allow them to create things, like culture. They also have the power to bestow the status of “Aryan” on other races, like the Japanese, a power only triggered when they are getting their arses kicked in a war. They can also subtract Aryanism by decree, like with the gypsies.
Thus, in a perfect and consistent application of both science AND magic, each and every Aryan drawn from Nordic stock can create the nation-state… in their hearts.. And you just can’t beat that.
Below is an image that I believe perfectly illustrates this process. If anyone has any questions about how “Aryan” came to be on top of the racial heap, I suggest further study of this image.
[? try again / send link / i post…]
courtney.. I agree, he is just a ramification of the jew, how? bein’ sharp, rash, gash.. antifa. lol.. everything jew makes to divide real patriotic skins. now with the fashion.. stupid jew making JEWDRIVER those bastards making covers of skrew.. stupid fags.
remember skins did not come from Lauren Aitken or whatever! that n***** bastard.
skins came out of the ’60s.. from the british xenofobic youth. that’s the only truth.
kick out those who are not of your country. working class.
SKINHEADS NEVER SURRENDER! 88!
melissa..
you make many good point. jew only make ramification..
where justice? him wrapped ’round tree.. like yellow ribbon..
JEWDRIVER not funny.. JEWSPANNER no funny… no jew funny.. jew bad.. jew so bad, patriot make thinking bad about head hurt how just..
remember skins not come from boat or UFO.. jew own UFO! jew drive boat aground in ’60s!
i am a master race. that truth.
RAHOWA!
I don’t think she even looked at the picture. 69! LOL! BBQ!
*May Ian Stuart live in the hearts of Europeans all across the world.
*May the European people survive the non-white flood invading their lands.
*May we have the courage to accept the right of all national groups to have a country of their own.
*May these sovereign countries live among each other in peace without an attempt of any one group at controlling other groups or policing the world.
Change WILL come, it’s just a matter of time and action.
Whites of European descent WILL wake up to the world’s racial realities. That reality is that we are being bred out of existence. We could possibly become extinct! If you honestly enjoy global diversity, then end local diversity to preserve it. THINK ABOUT IT!
Whites of European descent WILL expel all traitors and non-whites from Europe, Australia, U.S. and Canada… In order to PRESERVE OUR VERY EXISTENCE AS A UNIQUE GROUP OF PEOPLE.
Statistics: During colonial times, Europeans made up around 25% of the world population, which was a reasonable slice of the pie we call our total “diverse human population.” Now we make up less than 13% of the world population.
Why???
1. Miscegenation, AKA race mixing. Which goes against natural law.
2. Birth control. AKA legalized murder.
3. Most importantly, the non-white invasion of our land.
With special attention to Muslims and Africans in Europe and “Mestizos” in the U.S.
3,000-5,000 illegal aliens cross the southern border into the U.S. daily.
An invasion without weapons! People, more importantly, numbers have become the new weapon of choice for the hordes of foreign asylum seekers.
European scientists predict that if the current demographic trends continue, Europeans will be outnumbered in their own countries by 2030.
THIS IS NOT THE FUTURE THAT ANYONE WANTS, SO WHY FIGHT AGAINST WHITES WHO ONLY WANT THE RIGHT TO EXIST. THIS IS OUR UNIVERSAL RIGHT.
FREEDOM!
…the doctor will see you now.
Public Enemy
saidsampled it best:Black man, black woman: black baby.
White man, white woman: white baby.
White man, black woman: black baby.
Black man, white woman: black baby.
(Fear of a Black Planet)
Another way of putting it is LOOK AT THE DAMN PICTURE. It explains everything.
I’m from Europe, yet I couldn’t care less if my grandson is 10/20/50/80/100% “darker” than me. I just hope he/she has a good life.
Seriously, find a new hobby.
I recommend something with water and electricity.
Lumpen, that’s Farrakhan from the NOI (black nationalist/supremacist crew) and basically that quote is trying to prove that black people are the original and superior race ’cause they can make any colour whereas white can only make white. It is a bad quote to use, lol. They are fucking nutbags. It always surprised me that PE used them and so many black people continued to follow them after they did Malcolm X. Anyway back to the Skrewdriver. White pride worldwide 88 14.
BLASPHEMY!
I disagree. The lyrics right before that sample are:
The lyrics seem to be pouring scorn on the notion that mixing races somehow dilutes the person. I always understood the lyrics to mean that whites typically see their whiteness as “tainted” by blackness.
Gaah! I hope you’re not right. I love that song. And PE. They were the first non-metal group I listened to as a tacker (and Ice T: heard them the same afternoon).
Man, we anarchists need to get some numerology and mystic shit going on. 4/21! Thor! Amethyst! Heil Bratwurst!
Hey man, I am sorry to burst your bubble about PE & Chuck, but like pretty much anybody their politics were a little questionable at times. Sometimes racist, sometimes homophobic (actually on that record in question I think). That doesn’t mean they didn’t make some awesome tunes. But although reactionary, the NOI is a black nationalist (and racist, patriarchial and homophobic) organisation that infliltrated a lot of hip-hop back then. Malcolm X left them when he saw how full of shit they were and denounced racism and Farrakahn pretty much took his spot (and since then has basically admitted he at least had some sort of a hand in his murder albeit indirectly and apologised for it). Chuck even says about Farrakhan ‘don’t tell me that you understand, until you hear the man’. Ice-T on the other hand didn’t fall for that shit and while he has said and done some pretty questionable shit too – dude was a real life pimp at one stage, check the song ‘That’s how I’m living’ off Home Invasion – he was actually the first rapper to denounce homophobia on record so he gets props. They are both fucking great but that quote is definitely some pro-black shit and Farrakhan is a scumbag.
Google the Nation of Gods and Earths for some really bizarre pro-black ideology that was rampant at one stage in hip-hop – Wu-Tang, Queen Latifah, Rakim, the list goes on, pretty much everyone was into that shit at one point. I laugh when I see Queen Latifah on TV and remember her dressed in the African getup (the women were ‘Earths’ and as such had to cover 70% of their bodies like the Earth is 70% water LOL). But yeah, the NOI are definitely against race mixing, to say the least. I’d say Chuck is definitely a little older and probably thinks differently now about certain things. Anyway, fight the power!
Oh, I knew about the whole Farrakhan thing, but I had a totally different interpretation of that song, hence using the quote.
Speaking of ‘That’s How I’m Livin’, have you seen this version? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl-6mHI-N3g
Yeah! Fucking love this song. Cool interview with Ice on A Current Affair: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96i7TxFQCGU
Okay, so apparently it’s comedian Dick Gregory and not Farrakhan in that sample.
And I think I got the whole anti-racism tip on that song from the way it’s used on the movie Do the Right Thing. Are you SUPER sure that’s what the song is about?
I had no idea about the apparently anti-semitic lyrics (well, lyric) and the Professor Griff shit. Way to ruin my heroes, Vents. (Before the boneheads get excited, Prof. Griff was fired for the same remarks, recanted and rejoined the group some time later.)
Like you say, pretty much everyone has questionable politics at times. If I vetted hip-hop for homophobia I wouldn’t be left with much. Some of my favourite tracks are pretty intensely fucked lyrically (i.e. ‘No Vaseline’ by Ice Cube and ‘Fuck The Police’ by NWA), but not BECAUSE they are un-PC.
Woah. It’s a can of worms.
PS Re: The track on Fear of a Black Planet. It’s ‘Meet The G That Killed Me’. Chuck is plain wrong: the parts fit. He was probably just doing it wrong.
Ha ha!
Yeah you’re right… shit! I have one of Dick Gregory’s books here actually but I never got all the way through it. Maybe I should read it now. He sounds exactly like Farrakhan.
Public Enemy are anti-racist, but pro-black. Make of that what you will. Add to that their fondness of Farrakhan and the NOI.
Like some stooge said in the other thread, Bakunin said some questionable shit regarding this as well. People say dumb shit sometimes. We’re all human. Farrakhan probably said a few things once that Chuck loved and started taking his word as gospel. Also people react to their circumstances and experiences in life. A lot of hip-hop music is a reflection of people who grew up at the bottom of the shit heap and kept having shit shoveled on them their whole life. Same as the blues. I swear if we ever get rid of this class system and racism where is all the good music gonna come from?
Seriously though, if people judged me on the very worst things I had said and done in my life you would probably have a picture of me wearing a white sheet and burning a cross and stabbing some puppies to death. Chuck is cool.
Yeah, the whole NOI thing with PE was always a bit of a sticking point with me.
Belated grats on getting your album out vents.
It’s agreed then: Chuck is good. Ian Stuart is dead. All is right with the world.
hail ian stuart heroes never die 14/88