Whatever happened to Andrew Sanders?


Andrew Sanders is an odd fellow.

In December 2005, Andrew came to the attention of anti-racist activists, and subsequently state authorities, after authoring a website titled Fightback. (Funnily enough, that site is now home to a Trotskyist groupuscule.) The site gave detailed instructions on how to prepare for the second Cronulla civil uprising — one scheduled, in the minds of the perhaps few dozen phantasists who masturbated online over its commencement, for the following weekend. Arrested by police / ZOG agents in the days following the Cronulla pogrom / civil uprising, Andrew was charged with a number of offences. Trial commenced in October 2006, and Andrew was eventually exonerated.

As a white supremacist, Sanders had form, joining the Stormfront site in October 2003 as ‘blue-eyed-devil’ and again in May 2004, when he employed the pseudonym ‘blue8eyed8devil’. (For those of you joining us late, the number ‘8’ is used by white supremacists to represent ‘H’, the eighth letter of the alphabet. ’88’ is ‘HH’, where ‘HH’ = ‘Heil Hitler’.) The main point of agreement uniting the various racist and fascist crackpots on SF is their hatred of Jews — a message to be “forged in titanium” according to the Amerikkkans who administer the site — and Sanders was no exception:

At risk of getting flamed and offending people, I must say, very few White Nationalists I know would be moved by the American dead during this farcical ‘war on terror’ as we all see them as futile masses working for ZOG. Whilst there is some innocence in ignorance, following their Zionist overlords without question to their death is their own choice.

They did not die for us, they did not die for the White Cause, they died for greater Israel. I can not mourn their deaths or I will be, as most judaeic [sic] brainwashed folk, a hypocrit [sic] blinded by hollywood inspired patriotism. ~ January 30, 2005

And just in case anybody missed it the first time around:

The jewish power base is in America like a cancer, I do not think in my lifetime or as long as my Race exists we will see a White America. ~ February 1, 2005

At one point, Sanders even expressed interest in attending a meeting of ‘Klub Naziya’, arranged by Australia’s Most Loved Neo-Nazi, Dävid Palmer. As for his website, posing as an interested — to be precise: enraptured — third party, Sanders had this to say (prior to his arrest):

A fantastic organisation has been setup for this express purpose, a combination of various groups I believe, they can be found at [Fightback] … they featured on the front page of the news papers today, I recommend you read through their guerilla handbook of this Sunday[‘]s protests, some awesome -awesome- ideas there.

We need to stand united this Sunday, every one of you needs to attend, no excuses should be made as no excuses will be tolerated when the stormfront breaks.

So one day when your kids ask “Where were you when the revolution started daddy?” you can reply, “In the vanguard.” ~ December 17, 2005

Eerily prophetic words, as just a few days later Sanders was indeed in the vanguard: the police vanguard.


Prior to his Cronulla-inspired shenanigans, Sanders spent some time on Stormfront outlining his views.

My biggest problem with most self declared White Nationalists is the fact they have bollocks like mice attached to them. Most will not stand up in public because that would be suicide, but alot [sic] draw the line when in a semi-closed group also.

Your problem from this post and from your other post really sounds as though it could be resolved if you were to network and get together a select group of friends. I don’t mean start a cult or group of psychotic whites spouting hail [sic] hitler at every given opportunity as that severely ruins our image.

Just a clean cut group of White youths who influence the world around them to match their political views and agendas.

Remember, to all those reading this post, you don’t see Jews marching through Time Square screaming “STALIN IS COOL HAHAHA I R B JEWISH FJEER MEH!”. Neither should we. ~ May 15, 2004

Sanders is a few stubbies short of a six-pack, obviously, but the above does conform to his subsequent behaviour, not only with regards Fightback, but also the Tunnel Rats and most recently ‘The Law Society of the University of Western Sydney’.

There are many great ideas in this thread, there are some which would be twisted into our backs as knives too. The ultimate fact is, we cannot change the world. The jews have spent the last three thousands [sic] years infiltrating us, they have spent since the begining [sic] of the presses taking control of them and other niche industries (gold, diamonds, power in general).

What you men and I do in our lifetimes will never counter that, at risk of a reich to match the past reichs, a revolution. Revolutions however are not easy wins, and once you lose you can expect your countries and people to be opressed [sic] with severe dogma from the still controlled media.

The only solution is to inhabit someplace [sic] small and logistically sound (like Tasmania), begin swinging votes by making circumcision illegal (bam, there goes the jewish population), which isn’t a hard thing as most parents and doctors refuse to do it anymore as mutilating one’s children serves no purpose. It’s 2005, we can all wash our genitals quite well now.

Secondly you make kosher and hallal [sic] slaughter and meat illegal due to the fact it is cruel to animals. Already we’ve got the majority of voters on side as these are concientious [sic] moral issues most people agree with. You could even go as far as swinging with the advanced scientific beliefs of the third reich of a vegetarian state, which was a very strong idea put forth by Mr H…

[Sanders then proceeds to expound on The Wonders of Tasmania.]

Once the three legislative changes above have been made you will have a relatively core group of society remaining. A coup d’etat wouldn’t be neccesary, with 10,000 people alone assisting the masses in accepting our idea the social economic change itself would be like starting a boulder rolling down a hill to freedom. ~ February 2, 2005

Uh-huh. To create the perfect White Nation, just follow this simple recipe:

1) Move to Tasmania.
2) With 10,000 others, assist the masses in understanding and accepting the White Nationalist cause.
3) Take over the Government.
4) Introduce legislation outlawing male circumcision, kosher and halal butchering.
5) Watch the boulder rolling down the hill to freedom.

And voilà!

Coincidentally, when Sanders received bail, one of the conditions for his release was that his mother keep him on a very short leash while in public.

But hey, Andrew, what about Jude? As it happens, in his first post on SF, Sanders made available to the melanin-deficient world a mighty -mighty- manifesto. After advising against the use of the term ‘Jewnited States of America’, Andrew writes:

The Jude organises himself through his church, through his social gatherings. Whilst their churches are unlike ours, they discuss matters directly affecting their people.

We on the other hand, as white nationalists, the men and women in the vanguard of our race, rattle chains, and throw stones at Israeli tanks, al [sic] la Palestinians.

This is NOT the way to win a war.

The implications in the post about the ADL that it was from a ‘goyyim’ [sic] defeated the purpose of the post and will bring their attention to the frame-up and is contra our efforts.

I live in Sydney, Australia. We too are infested with yids in power who are inbreeding our civilisation with asians and arabs in an attempt to water out our blood and prevent us from rising against tyranny.

Flyers are relatively pointless as they are merely white nationalists rattling chains and whinging. They will not help us.

The end game is approaching rapidly, coming closer every year, yet we let ourselves fall into this decay and disrepair as a species, and I’m sure that our overseers are quite pleased with this.

YOU MUST MAKE A CHOICE: — As a white nationalist you have two choices, you can either organise and strike clandestinely, or you can follow the path of destruction that many do, scream the odd ‘fsck the system’, rattle chains, and throw stones at tanks.

Our weakness is our lack of central communication, our lack of recruiting tactics, our lack of organisation and working as a team. We are seperated [sic]. Divided we are bound to fall.

We need SOLIDARITY, we need UNITY, we need each other.

What I ask of you men and women is that you simply think to yourselves for a moment, who do you know around you who shares your ideals? Your views? Your beliefs? Are they awakened to the cause that you are persuing [sic]? And if so, why aren’t you discussing or organising things with them specifically?

If you attend a church, is it one with a pulpit prostitute in the position of attention, or are they perhaps sympathisers to our cause?

If you attend a social group of any kind, do you know people there who are fed up with the persecution of our fellow men?

Why are you not contacting these people? Just a simple tap on the elbow, a wink, and a “I know how you feel.” will mean the world to most of us at any given time, to know there is that circle of brotherhood, or support amongst our own kind.

Whilst the governments of the world supress us, the ever present undereducated white nationalist (aka, red neck, skin head, what not) who are primarily our foot soldiers are defeating our entire purpose. What point is infantry when your officers are too busy sitting on their arses in an office killing time waiting for their next pay cheque?

We are too comfortable, and in comfort one finds laziness and lack of motivation. Because we are not directly being hurt, more often than not alot [sic] of us don’t SEE, don’t FEEL the damage that is being done to us.

I would like to make a motion, provided the administrators of this board are willing to allow it, that we organise a segment of this forum specifically to orchestrate communications between white nationalists. Whilst it is difficult to avoid detection of governmental bodies who will use the guise of us being ‘racists’ and ‘terrorists’ and attempt to track us down and find our dossiers, it is the only thing we have left.

I recommend that you do go to work and speak to fellow sympathisers for our cause, I suggest at church or at your social groups you speak to the leaders who have similar views and see how you can affect the thought pattern of millions of warriors amongst us who have yet to open their eyes to the truth.

Awaken those around you. If only 5,000 of us across the world were to speak with one person per day and let them KNOW that we are here, that it is okay to speak freely, and that we need to organise, in a week alone we would have 160,000 in one WEEK who are rallying to our cause.

We MUST unite, or we must accept our fate and fade away under the boot of the Jude. The choice, my brothers and sisters, is up to you. Do you want to be a part of the problem, or a part of the solution?

On reading this post, if you haven’t yet thought of one person you can speak with, I suggest you move to another country. I welcome you to come to Australia, and will give you any assistance you need, god only knows we need the numbers here.

Once you have your small networth [sic] of brethren together, register a hotmail account or another pseudo-anonymous web based email account and contact me via: –

[email protected]

Under the proviso we can get a working network of activists together I welcome the communication and will quite glady [sic] assist in orchestrating movements that will assist our cause.

If you are unable to get a single person on side with you, or do the little required to create some unity amongst us, then you may as well forget calling yourself a white nationalist and accept your fate under the boot of the Zionist occupational government of choice in the area you live.

Yours in brotherhood,

The Blue Eyed Devil. ~ October 27, 2003

A subsequent posting (October 30, 2003) from The Blue Eyed Tasmanian Devil (“Heil Hitler!”) reports progress on the above, and expresses his hope that “we can open up an entire new realm and hopefully manage to bring alot [sic] of groups that really damage our image into the frame with more avante gard [sic] WN cells”.

Almost five years later, it doesn’t appear that Sanders has given up on his efforts to confront The Yids in Power. Carefully avoiding the potentially damaging sight of Nazi uniform fetishists, and substituting this image for one of “a clean cut group of White youths who influence the world around them to match their political views and agendas” has taken a rather peculiar turn, however, with his establishment of something calling itself ‘The Law Society of the University of Western Sydney’.

So, what’s ‘The Law Society of the University of Western Sydney’? Apart from a figment of Sander’s imagination, the Society has a website; funnily enough, a Google search for it — lawsociety.org.au — results in not only a link to the Society but Andrew’s previous club, The Tunnel Rats. In any case, according to Andrew:

The Law Society of the University of Western Sydney was constituted on the 11th of September, 2007 at the Marsden Building (EZ) of Rydalmere campus. Operating across all campuses it’s main location of commencement, Rydalmere, draws upon a history dating back to the first settlement of the Rose Hill region by colonial British settlers on land once owned by the Darug nation.

From these eclectic roots the Law Society has taken into account its social responsibilities to the prestige of its forbearers [sic] and has sought to provide niche assistance in an area where a void has formed in relation to procedural aid, advocacy and assistance to those unable to obtain legal assistance through other means.

Building strong ties and relationships with the NSW Law Society, the Young Lawyers Association and Blacktown and Parramatta councils, the Law Society of the University of Western Sydney commenced an immediate rollout servicing all UWS campuses and communities nearby.

The Society began as a small project, when the current president who had been working and studying at the University of Western Sydney since 1999 found himself in a position where he was helping many students, staff and other community members with often minor procedural matters and directing them to already available resources that the general populace may not know is in place. In late 2005 due to an inability to assist all of the people seeking assistance he turned to the University to examine the apparatus in place to provide support in these regards…

That final sentence is a superb turn of phrase by Sanders: late 2005 being, of course, the beginnings of his troubles with ZOG.

The rest is simply badly-worded phantasy.

And who knows what other monkey business Andrew has been up to?

About @ndy

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153 Responses to Whatever happened to Andrew Sanders?

  1. Misshell says:

    Nick is full of it. Asks a lot of irrelevant questions but never answers any, not one.

    Velvet Rabit, I am a member of asyd forums and have been for some time. I have attended every protest APO has. I have personally handed boombox guy cash donations and purchased badges from armband guy. We are anonymous…

    I saw the threats posted (now deleted lol) and the “mood” was far from jovial. It is not for you to dictate how someone perceives a bomb threat. It was posted in a thread where the discussion was heated. It was not posted as a joke nor was it the only threat issued.

    Just because the poster did not think about APO’s possible family in this BS does not make their perceptions of this situation irrelevant, it just makes you a dumbass.

    Further, Sanders also threatens in his email to obtain APO’s address from his IP. My account, my name and my address, MINE, not his!

    What makes you think that we would give you an event # or our solicitor’s name. You a solicitor are you? lmao

  2. nicki says:

    impressive but confusing… i dunno maybe im missing something. n the 2 3 5 thing i dunno about, u cant just assume coz someone has an italian background theyre nazi or even fascist

    and darp, i dunno u seem pretty crazy id like to think we do but if i say that ull run off to the nsw law soc and ring everyone asking them if we’ve slept together and ruin our rep from what ive read of ur past. but no we try and keep good relationships with them and the exec r structuring the new site to facilitate easy access to clcs without need to contact us and the law soc of nsw have been amazing and supportive in helping a student based social activism type society get off the ground

  3. Dr. Cam says:

    nicki i dunno u seem lik may-b you r a bit of a moron?

  4. Liam says:

    “u cant just assume coz someone has an italian background theyre nazi or even fascist”

    That doesn’t seem to be the conclusion anyone is suggesting you get at! Jesus.

  5. @ndy says:

    i think u can assume that someone who writes that “u cant just assume coz someone has an italian background theyre nazi or even fascist” is either a) a moron or b) a troll, tho whether or not they have c) an italian background is moar difficult to tell.

  6. weez says:

    I’m starting to be very skeptical of nicki’s allegations. I like how this is going. I haer u liek mudkipz. 😆

  7. weez says:

    Are you still stumping around your hovel thinking up ways to ‘get me’ Bwian?

    Dazza, my hovel has Harbour Bridge views. Yours has a view of the back wall of the pub next door (if you can see over the dumpster). You’re the one wracking your only functioning neuron trying to work out how to shut down my website– only you can’t seem to manage it. Now THAT’S impotent rage.

  8. L says:

    “on behalf of red (the f**king muppet) who threatened to mail a bomb… (and other threats including death threats and threats of GBH to whit “f**k your EYES OUT”)”

    Now now… just because Anon tells you to jump off a bridge, would you?

    Mail a bomb, a macro image with no address, dates, details or demands. Grover sure is a crafty one!

    By the way, love to see how a female would manage to fuck out your eyes. Send me the tape, would you?

  9. Darrin Hodges says:

    There is nothing to work out Bwian, it is just a matter of opportunity. No doubt you’ll be stupid enough to provide one sooner or later.

    What good are “Harbour Bridge” views when you are so myopic? Unless of course you have a very long nose.

  10. Misshell says:

    Nicki you say “if u got a beef with the president you don’t attack an entire group of ppl”

    Errrr Nicki, baby, he ain’t the pres… methinks you are a little delusional or more accurately, a BS artist. Going by what you have said thus far, surely you must know that the real pres of the UWSLS is not a person called Andrew Sanders.
    If Sanders sets up a fraudulent website called the Law Society of UWS what the hell do you expect? I mean really! If you want to protect the “real” UWSLS then you should be scrutinizing Sanders and supporting his disciplinary process, not criticizing the people exposing this fraud.

    I quote the Investigative Officers words when asked if the UWS has a law society.

    “Yes we do have a law society but Andrew Sanders is not the president nor is his website legitimate. If we put up any websites they are hosted on the UWS servers.”

    His fraudulent website is now down BTW…

    When asked if Sanders was a law student, the reply was:-

    “Yes he is a law student, but from reading his emails I really don’t know what he is learning here.”

  11. Don Oorst says:

    Maybe you guys should move the fight elsewhere. I think FDB is going to bow out of this fiasco.

    It’s kind of not really that interesting to FDB, because it’s got nothing to do with Racism, other than perhaps a little moral lesson. “A badly chosen Image macros can kill the lulz IRL”.

    Sanders, keep your nose clean son. If you want to put your past behind you, I suggest you don’t give people reasons for looking for it. They’ll bump into us, and it’s about as annoying for us as it is for you.

    And for the love of God. Students should *not* be making cartoony legal threats. That’s just dumb. I “get” that you might have been trying to White Knight here. Good for you. But this is the worst possible way to do it.

    The rest of you Anon kids, sort it out between you’s OK? I’d honestly suggest doing something like going and finding a mediator, not an Army to sort this stuff out.

    We have far more important things to be doing than sorting out hissy fights between crazed teenage cyberpunks.

    So yeah. FDB is nobody’s private Army.

    I’m sure both sides of this Anon dispute would understand that.

    Also, for Anon people looking for lulz.

    Google Image Search “Darrin Hodges”. It’s a hell of a head he’s got attached to him. I’m yet to meet a good looking racist.

  12. You’re just too sexy Donald.

  13. @ndy says:

    Oh noes! ‘The Law Society of the University of Western Sydney’ website has disappeared from teh Interwebs! Did the Executive authorise this takedown nicki? Where will the Society’s 120 members go now for advice and information? i hope the exec r structuring the new site to facilitate easy access to clcs without need to contact the law soc of uws and the law soc of nsw cont to be amazing and supportive in helping a student based social activism type society get off the ground.

  14. Dr. Cam says:

    FDB is nobody’s private Army.

    With the exception of ZOG, the TC, Bilderberg etc.

  15. Kitty says:

    This thread his gotten to be just another flame war, and posting would be just pissing in a sea of piss.

    I stand by what I said earlier in the thread. He is a good guy, regardless of what he used to be. I am not questioning that he did make those posts, but he IS a changed man.

    His chivalry is what got him into this mess. I shall remember this next time I go to give up my seat for a girl on the train.

  16. nicki says:

    the website has been down since december. its interesting that uws has a law soc but its hosted on their servers, link pls? any society club or group setup at uws gets very little from the uni, web space is something they have offered no one ever. apo is now posting as misshel i guess? well misshel, apo, paul summers, whatever; if the investigative officer escalated the matter to the head of complaints you might get some more answers coz the head of complaints has been fully informed from the get go apparently

  17. Just another [sexy] example of the [sexy] FDB! [heroes] interfering in other people’s lives with [sexy] justification.

  18. Birmingham says:

    Okay, I’m late to the party. I’m not going to comment on the situation except to point out that there are a few lessons to be learned here.

    It’s Anonymous for a reason, the moment you start throwing your name around is the moment you open yourself up for this sort of shit. Not only from CoS, but other parties… and inevitably… other anons.

    If you have a past that you are trying to work your way away from or make amends for, this is probably the biggest reason you keep your details to yourself and keep a low profile. You want to be involved in a cause that you think is worth your time, don’t let your past actions ruin the future good work that a group can do. This goes for anyone with a past. Don’t go running your mouth about what you do or what you’ve done.

    Not everyone is going to agree with what you say and not everyone will have the same background as you do… this is why you try to be civil and don’t escalate things to the point this childish bullshit got to.

    I’m not condoning the actions of Sanders, I’m not saying Red posting the grover macro was an intelligent move considering her past with copping shit from ASYD members… personally I think she should have known better, having been in a similar position herself. I will say, however, that a lot of you have forgotten how to be anonymous. When we started the ASYD chanology deal none of us gave a toss about who the other people were, nor did we care. We put our heads together and we got shit done because we were there for two things: to have a few laughs at the expense of the CoS, and to educate the public about the dangers of such a bullshit organisation. Neither reason was more important than the other and nor should that change because the moment you let it get too serious is the exact moment you become just like every other group of people holding a sign in protest of something.

    Remember your roots, and if you don’t know what they are, do some reading… Anonymous is nothing more than a group of trolls and practical jokers that seemed to have developed a social conscience, Anon is also a bigger source of Dramawhoring than LJ… we just try not to advertise it. Learn to get in touch with what made Anon so unique to start off with, or become another run of the mill protest group that essentially no one pays attention to.

  19. VelvetRabbit says:

    I take back my former opinion.

  20. Misshell says:

    It all becomes crystal clear once the cloud disperses

  21. Birmingham says:

    He’s recently shown his true colours and people are starting to see him for the cunning attention whore that he is. Such a pity it took him manipulating majority of anon and him almost being handed complete control of everything before people started seeing how dangerous he is.

    He handed over personal details of anon members to CoS because they wouldn’t stand by and let him take over, he demanded and rallied other anons for the digging up of personal details of another 2 members of anonymous because they challenged him. His charade dropped when access to the ASYD front page wasn’t given to him or the person he had been grooming to take it over and act as Val’s puppet when he decided to take a back seat and call the shots from there.

    Since his involvement in Anonymous, certain groups within it have become a mirror image of the organisation they are protesting in mirroring their disconnection practices and fairgaming tactics. This keeps up and Anonymous will turn into the thing it supposedly objects to.

    Not only that, he is happy to talk about the events of his arrest and carry on about the NSW police being likened to the Gestapo and SS, yet as soon as someone mentions information that he himself has made known and is also a matter of publick knowledge he jumps up and down and screams defamation.

  22. pure profit says:

    “I take back my former opinion.” VR


    i take it youve had personal first hand experience of Sanders true nature recently ?

    the whispering grass, told the trees, who told the birds and bees…

    im sorry to hear about it

  23. VelvetRabbit says:

    Mr Summers – I still think you’re batshit insane, but my opinion is more negatively geared against this pathetic individual these days.

  24. pure profit says:

    i prefer “Crazy like a Fox”.

    and i AM sorry to hear about what happened to you, im well aware of the depths of trouble sanders can cause, and drag others into.

    if i can be of assistance, feel free to ask.

  25. Lumpen says:

    What an unexpected and totally unforeseen outcome.

  26. nicki says:

    lol, birm seems to have himself confused with a sanders, who handed info to cos birm? i think bbg erisus and even sanders himself have been outed by u buddy and have the legal dox from cos full of threats to prove it, wheres urs? hmm? where are the other ‘2’ peoples? this is why i lurk and never get involved with u new anons. sanders in actuality went out of his way to discourage u n velvets leader fagging that was his only crime, running around defaming anyone u dislike on every board u can find an ally on is pathetic hun, really is. he wasnt even the main instigator against u n velvets removal from ‘leadership’, it was a bunch of oldfags who dont even get on the irc because u guys have tainted it. get ur facts straight before u dob any more anons in who u seem to think are outing ur ‘leadership’. but hey, u used the golden OSA rule, find someones past and use it against them, which kind of backs up the gossip that ur actually a clam. makes sense, not to mention u stroke velvets ego (which is a high maintenance task at that, lot of ego there) and a few of the kids like dc n co to get them to do ur dirty work. heres a hint, if u really want to find out who downed ur attempt at turning a collective into a fucken dictatorship, try hanging out on /i/surgence. from all the digging ive done ur chasin a muppet whos as nazi as i am a liberal voter, big diff between socialist epic trolls n nazism lol. ive decided to pass this link onto sanders n apologise for some of the comments i made about him, wont surprise me if birm gets a knock on the door from the sherrifs dept for dropping anons details on forums, making hate speech livejournals and dogging us out to the scientologists. if ur after somewhere to set up ur own little dictatorship, go play elsewhere on the internet, anonymous is about equality, collectivism and freedom of speech, not tyrany by covert dictatorships. from all the stuff ive read on /i/ uve got a lot to answer for and ill be taking a special interest in you guys and maybe even encourage /i/ to see what skeletons u have in ur closet. 🙂 you need drama to survive, we all know this, so this is my first and only comment directed to you, the rest will be to /i/, feeding the trolls, especially the ones who arent even funny, is boring.

  27. L says:

    Whether you feel like this about him or not, it’s not the way to go about it.

    There are times and places and defamation is never fun for anyone involved. I’d just like to thank Darp for being so receptive to polite communication. Even if it didn’t turn out the way anyone had hoped.

    Please be aware that no one’s details are really private and everyone is really out to get everyone. I think all of this should show you just how careful you need to be with people, especially other Anonymous members.

  28. Birmingham says:

    Oh Sanders. Even if Nicki isn’t you I know this will get back to him. As you always say when there are accusations levelled against you… where’s the proof? Whatever proof you have is manufactured since dealing with the CoS would taint certain moral standards this little “clam” has to live by. I thought about it… but that’s as far as I got.

    I find it amusing to no end that you think I’m a clam, conveniently backs up everything you harp on about re: leaderfagging (wait wut?). Hate to tell you, and I know this is going to spoil your “slander” campaign, but you were told who handed your dox over by the person who did it.

    As for setting up a dictatorship? You obviously overestimate a) how much influence I had over anything outside changing modes in the IRC channel. b) how little I really had to do with anon, since after may I was never in attendance… and wait… c) I spent the last 2 and a half months trying to delete my own account from the old ASYD forums so I didn’t have my name (or one I’ve used in the past) associated with you and half the bullshit anons… but, I never had the admin level to demote myself and delete.

    Livejournal is a funny thing, and you need to decide on who was actually behind it, me or Velv… yes I heard your rants about how it was Velv pretending to be me, etc. (again, if I was as egotistical as some I would have soiled myself) since they deal with so much of this sort of drama its not funny. Hate speech? oookay, should I goosestep around and salute while typing this? Your imagination seems to have run completely rampant… I really don’t think I can live up to the expectations you’ve set for me… and you think Trojan is one of these Nazi-hunters (weez, @ndy, etc) and anyone else that is cautious of you is ZOMG trying to dox you. Paranoid much?

    DC… yeah, careful there, he’s an idealist. He’ll go after anyone to sort out answers, and as I told him last night, I couldn’t care less what you guys do now, there’s no way I am even remotely accountable for you.

    What else…

    /i/… you and Sanders are both kicking a dead horse. How many times do I need to say that my involvement with anon is over before you halfwits get the hint. No longer involved. Dig up what you like, there’s nothing in my past that’s been illegal and I’ve always employed a habit of changing details every six months. You illustrate my point earlier though and only further put Anon on the course to falling out with the public by Fairgaming anyone that stands against you… and giving CoS more ammunition to label you as hypocrites and a group who has just gone out to publicly defame CoS to cover up its own dirty secrets.

    Are you prepared for where this could end up? While I won’t be the one handing this info over to the media and CoS, we both know it will more than likely be the same person who dox’d you… but I don’t have a problem in pointing it out 😉

  29. Jim QLD says:

    Oh boy thanks for all that. What a read.

  30. Pure Profit says:

    looking at the whole story here, the history of one mans shenanigans, there is an obvious pattern of trouble wherever he goes.

    as Dr Phil often says “The best predictor of Future behaviour, is Past behaviour”

    looking at sanders’ history and current troubles, i cant see any happy endings for this imbecile

  31. Smart Cookie says:


    my opinion is more negatively geared against this pathetic individual these days.

    Did you break up with him or something?

  32. VelvetRabbit says:

    SC – I wouldn’t touch that thing with someone else’s cock.

  33. mrk says:

    VR – Someone would voluntarily let you go near their cock?

  34. pure profit says:

    Goodness, i was sent this link recently to one of andys online photo albums…


    Looks like Cpt Moonlight is preparing for a ned kelly scenario…

  35. Anonymous says:

    You know what I find funny, is that all the old stuff written about him getting people under his thumb using his little bouts of “charm” seems to have happened with ASYD. He is using the same methods of control, by slowly weening himself into complete control, which might i add – he now has. And more to the point, the people who once backed him, Kitty, VR, Me, etc, even given knowing about his past, are now completely aware that he is a conniving worm, who will leave nothing but a rotting core in the beautiful apple that was once ASYD.

    Whether or not he is a good leader for ASYD is beside the point, he does portray the qualities of a good leader, except for the chronic lying. And when i say chronic, i mean basically every second statement the dude makes is an outright fabrication. Having once been a close friend of his, I personally understand how one can be taken in by his glamorous tales, but to those of you reading this that still think he is a decent human being, all I have to say is open your damn eyes and smell the swastikas.

    I would also like to add, that nobody has dropped Andrew’s details to the CoS/OSA, or at least as i was told by a management clam from OSA. But think about it this way, if they DID have Andrew’s docs, would there not have been some shitstorm of a police investigation into why somebody with charges of TERRORISM is working his way to the top of a controversial “religious hate group” as Anonymous are called by CoS, or at least some more revealing flyers than those where they namefagged him (with a spelling mistake).

  36. Little Birdie says:

    A little birdie recently pointed out that Andrew has recently changed his last name and now goes by the name of Andrew Kellerman.

    This is the same Andrew Kellerman who has ‘founded’ the Digital Liberties Coalition which is an anti mandatory internet filter lobbying group.

    From what this little birdie has indicated it seems Andrew is back to his old ‘silence the critics’ tricks whereby he bled any other possible anti-filter lobbying groups of credibility and members through his usual bullshitting.

    Early bird gets the conniving worm right?

  37. @ndy says:


    Listen, and understand. That Sanders is out there. He can’t be bargained with. He can’t be reasoned with. He doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And he absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.

  38. pure profit says:

    Thanks for the update LB, ensure this gets added to the file……

  39. Anonymous says:


    A lovely little article confirming Andrew’s name change, as well as an updated photo if anyone’s interested. A rose by any other name…

  40. @ndy says:

    10 points to Andrew for persistence.

  41. Anonymous says:


    A change of name means that he can now sign up for social networking sites without fear of his fan club finding him.

  42. pure profit says:

    The NSW solicitors’ admissions board have been advised of the name change as well as other interested parties…

  43. Knew him once upon a time says:

    Lives in a house he bought with his father’s inheritance.

    Drives a car his mother bought him.

    Lives in Llandilo NSW.

    Small town. Drive around until you see a green car parked out the front.

    Was he a neo-Nazi? Probably not. He just likes to use groups that have a clearly identified common cause/aim/interest to gain mindless apostles.

    Does that mean that his hate is any less vehement? Definitely not.

  44. Timon says:

    Keep fighting Andrew! WHITE POWER

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  46. The guy must be dead by now, surely! says:

    Timon is still alive? Really?! Val (Andrew) once told an entirely unbelievable story about how he tried to assassinate Timon. Laugh about how outlandish it was to this day.

  47. bean says:

    Curious if anything new about him has popped up. New projects, new aliases, new websites. I like to keep tabs on this sort of thing, and you all seem to be pretty damn good at that.

  48. Little Birdie says:

    Only peep I’ve heard out of him is that he seems to be glomming his way onto the Australian Sex Party. Maybe he has a taste for libertarians now.

  49. Anonymous Coward says:

    He now goes by the alias of Bash Prompt (or bash pr0mpt depending on what website he’s on).

    https://www.facebook.com/bashpr0mpt is his Facebook, and that has links to all of his other stuff.

    For a while he tried to make himself seem like a gaming news god etc., but it never really caught on. I’m not sure what he’s doing now for money, but I’m pretty sure whatever it is doesn’t involve going to work.

    http://www.reddit.com/user/bashpr0mpt is his reddit account, which is pretty hilarious. Not so much because of his comments or commentaries, but because of the massive amount of downvotes he averages.

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