a week later, a few more bits and pieces

Full Marx to some cheese-eating surrender-monkeys, who have an interesting blog called La Bataille socialiste. It’s got some pages in English too, which is definitely useful to a mono-linguist such as myself.

A spectre is haunting Europe, and it’s being exorcised. A while ago it was Ungdomshuset in Copenhagen, now it’s The Köpi in Berlin (Last Stand for the Far Left: Berlin Commune Fights the Property Developers, Stefan Berg and Marcel Rosenbach, Spiegel Online, December 21, 2007). Some body or other writes:

Berlin, end of December 2007: the situation in the city is continuously getting worse.
While until a few years ago this city stood as one of the fortresses of the squatter’s movement, nowadays we are reduced to the few remaining autonomous spaces. House projects, trailer-parks, autonomous youth clubs and so on are slowly disappearing – and sometimes without the slightest sound of resistance – under the pressure of State, capitalist relationships and its active servants.
The process known as gentrification keeps on changing entire neighbourhoods, fast and pitiless, in order to make place for yuppies, investors, alternative artists and generally all the people who feel themselves to be at home in mainstream society.
It seems as if, very soon, there will be no place left for self-organized, uncommercial and anti-authoritarian spaces. But despite this, there are still signs of active resistance all around.
The riots in Copenhagen last December, and the struggle for Ungdomshuset, brought forward – explosively and uncompromisingly – the somehow sleepy movement for autonomous spaces. In Germany, as on an international level, this movement is again on the offensive. As well as the fact that a lot of supporters travelled from Germany to Copenhagen to fight the battle there, solidarity actions happened in more than 30 German cities: among them, two long weeks of actions in Berlin.
Here, we also took back the streets for ourselves through a large, energetic and resolute demonstration, rocking the city and reclaiming public space once more for our uncontrollable, spontaneous and direct actions.
Rigaer94/Kadterschmiede, Köpi, Bethanien, Schwarzer Kanal, Liebig 14, Liebig 34/XB and the Infoladen Daneben, the Linienhöfe and the Brunnenstr.183/Umsonstladen, are some of the autonomous spaces under threat of eviction: these, as all the others, must stay, and this can be achieved only through a movement based on resoluteness, solidarity and active resistance.
We want to push forward offensively to keep our freespaces and to fight for the creation of new ones: to show the City that every eviction carries its own price.
We therefore call on everybody to join a demonstration on the 8th of December – almost one year after the “final battle“ in Copenhagen – in order to destroy together the winter lethargy of investors, yuppies and cityplanners and to show clearly and unequivocally our rage against the current situation ….

Active solidarity with all threatened autonomous projects – in Berlin as worldwide! Fight and defend autonomous freespaces!
For autonomous spaces and self-organization against dominion and capitalism.


The naughty policeman who tried to bugger off following an assault upon a Jewish fella last year can now enjoy being named as such on the front page of today’s edition of The Age (Police ‘hindered’ race probe, Liz Porter, December 23, 2007). Apparently, another naughty policeman may have tried to subvert the course of justice: “Two versions of a statement by a witness who came to Mr Vorchheimer‘s aid have been viewed by The Sunday Age — showing that the original was edited to remove material suggesting the off-duty policeman tried to take offenders from the scene before police arrived”.

Ah. The sound of one wrist slapping.

Love & Rage is being published online: the newspaper, the network, the revolutionary anarchist federation (see also a proposal for a regional anarchist federation). When it died in 1998, L&R gave birth to a number of other groups, including the Fire By Night Organizing Committee. It eventually evolved/collapsed into the Freedom Road Socialist Organisation, a Maoist sect. That is the FRSO/OCSL, to be confused with the FRSO; both groups consider themselves to be the only legitimate Freedom Road Socialist Organization. Nowadays, the FRSO is sending fraternal greetings to the PFLP, which this year (December 11) celebrates its 40th birthday:

Dear Comrades,

We send you our warmest fraternal greetings, and salute you on the 40th anniversary of the founding of the Popular Front of the Liberation Palestine. Your steadfastness and courage in the face of cruel and dangerous oppressors is an inspiration to people across the globe, including here in the United States. We are confident that the next 40 years will bring still more victories over imperialism and Zionism, and the compete liberation of every inch of Palestine…

And on another spotterly note, there’s a great family tree of Love & Rage online available here.

Crypto-fascist pop * Marko Perkovic and his band Thompson will be in town soon (Tour visa for ‘fascist’ rock singer attacked, Greg Roberts, The Australian, December 22, 2007), although it’s unlikely he’ll be reprising his version of the song ‘Jasenovac i Gradiška Stara’:

Jasenovac and Stara Gradiška,
That’s the house of Maks’s butchers.
There was a slaughterhouse in Čapljina,
Neretva carried away many Serbs (from there).

O Neretva, flow downhill,
And carry the Serbs into the blue Adriatic.
Through Imotski trucks rush,
Driving the black uniforms of Jure Francetić.

I am Ustasha and so was my father,
Father left the craft to his son…
Whoever said that Black Legion is not coming back,
May his father fuck him.

Lady Sinjska, if you can, take away Stipe and bring back our Franjo.
O Racan, may a dog fuck your mother, and the ones who voted for you.
Shining star above Metković,
Send our greetings to Ante Pavelić.

For a sympathetic account, see Who is Marko Perkovic “Thompson”? by Frano Budimlic.

Back in Berlin again, Neo-Nazi victim plans to kill himself in Berlin: report: “BERLIN (AFP) — A British man left paralysed after an attack by neo-Nazis is planning to travel to Berlin to kill himself, Bild newspaper reported on Tuesday. Noel Martin, a 48-year-old former builder who lives in Birmingham, told the popular German daily: “I will come to Berlin to die. Making it my last destination will close an open circle in my life.”

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46 Responses to a week later, a few more bits and pieces

  1. Dr. Cam says:

    Sir, I put it to you that you are terrible at not blogging.

  2. Mick Reyfield says:

    Back in Berlin again, Neo-Nazi victim plans to kill himself in Berlin: report: “BERLIN (AFP) — A British man left paralysed after an attack by neo-Nazis is planning to travel to Berlin to kill himself, Bild newspaper reported on Tuesday. Noel Martin, a 48-year-old former builder who lives in Birmingham, told the popular German daily: “I will come to Berlin to die. Making it my last destination will close an open circle in my life.

    Andy, why does your group coat us all with the same brush?

    Many guys who follow Right-Wing politics would never support these type of attacks. Instead of “blame the Nazi”, maybe it’s society that is responsible. Every time somebody voices their opinion on volatile sects such as Islam, pertaining they’re white, are victimised as racist…

  3. @ndy says:

    Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, Chef’s attorney would certainly want you to believe that his client wrote “Stinky Britches” ten years ago. And they make a good case. Hell, I almost felt pity myself! But, ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, I have one final thing I want you to consider. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Chewbacca. Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about it; that does not make sense!
    Gerald Broflovski
    Damn it!
    He’s using the Chewbacca Defense!
    Why would a Wookiee, an eight-foot tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of two-foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this case? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense! Look at me. I’m a lawyer defending a major record company, and I’m talkin’ about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you’re in that jury room deliberatin’ and conjugatin’ the Emancipation Proclamation, [approaches and softens] does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, it does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! The defense rests.

  4. Mick Reyfield says:

    Obviously you can’t answer my question. It just be because I’m correct, again!

  5. Lumpen says:

    Depends on who you mean by “us” Mick.

    Let’s see… a white person in Australia critiquing Islam is meant to be seen as devoid of any context. How convenient for you.

    And your critique is what exactly, anyway? Here’s my critique of Islam, and I’ll envoke Douglas Adams: you can appreciate a garden without believing there are fairies living at the bottom of it.

    Andy: Get back to your break!

  6. @ndy says:

    “Andy, why does your group coat us all with the same brush?”

    What group? Who’s “us”? Wha-? First, there’s no “group” here — just me, and a number of commenters. Secondly, I made no reference to ‘you’.

    “Many guys who follow Right-Wing politics would never support these type of attacks. Instead of ”blame the Nazi”, maybe it’s society that is responsible. Every time somebody voices their opinion on volatile sects such as Islam, pertaining they’re white, are victimised as racist…”

    Oookkkaaayyy… So “us” = people with right-wing politics. And you’re claiming that I’m — to be precise, my group is — unable or unwilling to differentiate between people with right-wing politics, on the one hand, and neo-Nazis, on the other. Your evidence for this is presumably contained somewhere in the post above. Hence, apparently I’ve argued somewhere above that many right-wingers actually support the type of attacks that have occurred on such people as Noel Martin.

    I don’t respond to such accusations seriously because they’re patently false: nowhere, either here, or elsewhere on this blog — or, in point of fact, in anything I have ever written, anywhere — do I claim this to be the case.

    As for your argument regarding “society” being to blame: well, yeah, maybe (whatever the fuck that means), but the courts in Germany actually convicted two young men for the crime, as you would know had you read the link. Here it is in more detail:

    The attack occurred on June 16, 1996 in Mahlow, a town in the former East German state of Brandenburg where the dark-skinned, Jamaican-born Briton was employed as a construction worker. A stone crashed through the windshield of his car and Martin’s car veered off the road. He remembers seeing a tree careening towards him and jerking the steering wheel…

    Two young Germans, Sandro R. and Mario P., had thrown a lump of concrete at Martin’s car. They were 17 and 24 years old at the time and their motive was “explicit xenophobia,” as a court later determined. They were sentenced to five and eight years in prison. Noel Martin never got an apology, but by now he doesn’t care any more. “It would be a waste of time. God will take care of them,” he says, “life will take care of them.” Both of his attackers are now free. But Martin is still imprisoned — in his own body.

    The attack left Noel Martin paralyzed from the neck down. “I am not a part of life,” he says, 10 years and three months later, “I just exist.” At home in Birmingham, he leans his heavy head against the headrest of his giant wheelchair. He fixes his weary eyes on his interviewer. “Everything has to be figured out by your head. It’s torture, mental torture,” he sighs. Martin will never be able to move his arms or legs again and he’ll never be able to feel what his fingertips touch. He’ll never have sex again, never go to the toilet by himself. Nor will he ever feel his own heartbeat…

    Right-wing extremists, for their part, see it as a provocation that he is still alive. One of their Internet forums features a post by a neo-Nazi urging Martin to burn himself alive on a market square, noting that this would save money. The author of the post adds that he would be “happy to donate the gasoline.” What does Martin think about the neo-Nazis? “Foolish people who know nothing about life. They love white skin, but they lie down in the sun to get a tan.” He says to let them talk — after all, there is such a thing as freedom of speech. “I wasn’t afraid of them then, and I’m not afraid of them now,” he says.

    Black people still aren’t safe in Brandenburg today, 10 years after the attack on Noel Martin. “The government should make sure everyone can go wherever they want and be safe,” he says. Martin knows how far-reaching the problem is. The first time he heard the word “nigger” was decades ago, back home, in the British industrial town of Birmingham…

    “Every time somebody voices their opinion on volatile sects such as Islam, pertaining they’re white, are victimised as racist…”

    Huh? What’s opinion on Islam got to do with my supposed belief that most right-wingers endorse young neo-Nazis rendering black construction workers paraplegic? In any case, Islam is not a “violent sect”, it’s one of the world’s major religions. What you seem to be struggling to communicate is the idea that if someone criticises Islam, and they happen to be white, they will inevitably be accused of racism.


    What’s does this have to do with anything I’ve written above?

  7. Mick Reyfield says:

    If these people feel that way about Noel, then how would it feel if one of their relatives, or themselves, were placed in a wheelchair for the rest of their lives? As I said before, the left seem to always put those [who] are conservative and extreme right-wing on the same map.

    “What’s opinion on Islam got to do with my supposed belief that most right-wingers endorse young neo-Nazis rendering black construction workers paraplegic?”

    It’s supposed to show my point from above.

    “Islam is not a “violent sect”, it is one of the world’s major religions.”

    I’m not even going to argue this anymore.


    I would of thought a band [whose] aim is to promote unity and [integration] in communities would speak for all – not just for Browns and Blacks.

  8. @ndy says:

    Mick you make absolutely no sense.

  9. Lumpen says:

    Lay off the eggnog, Mick.

  10. Adam says:

    yeah mick i tried, but seriously wtf?

  11. vents says:

    I think Islam is fucking retarded (and dangerous). Same with Christianity. And Scientology. Now where do I sit on the political spectrum, Mick?

  12. Sharp Shooter says:

    @ndy… In your opinion… Does everyone that you consider “racist” support violence?

    If yes… You’re an idiot.
    If no… Well done, those that don’t are retards but many of them exist. Yes, crazy, there are pacifist racists!

  13. @ndy says:

    That’s a difficult question to answer SS, and the problem is three-fold. One, what is ‘violence’? Two, whom do I consider ‘racist’ (and why?). Three, what does ‘support’ mean?

    So, inre ‘pacifism’, its meaning can and has been read quite differently, from blanket opposition to ‘war’ — that is, the orchestration of mass violence by states or equivalent entities — to blanket opposition to all forms of the broadly-defined use of violence. AJ Muste, for example, proclaimed adherence to a form of ‘revolutionary pacifism’, and yet to most the concept of ‘revolution’ is intimately linked to the practice of ‘violence’, often of the very worst kinds.


    Those who can bring themselves to renounce wealth, position and power accruing from a social system based on violence and putting a premium on acquisitiveness, and to identify themselves in some real fashion with the struggle of the masses toward the light, may help in a measure — more, doubtless, by life than by words — to devise a more excellent way, a technique of social progress less crude, brutal, costly and slow than mankind has yet evolved.

    By any standard definition, the vast majority of racists are not ‘pacifists’, although many may not support the indiscriminate use of violence against members of other races, both because of its basic immorality and for more pragmatic reasons. Serious forms of organised racism, on the other hand, often aspire to (re-)obtain positions of authority and power, especially through the state, and to then proceed to (re-)employ legal — and therefore ‘legitimate’ — forms of violence in pursuit of their aims (for example, the re-introduction of a White Australia).

    As for ‘racism’ itself, this has many dimensions, and is not limited to the often rather crude displays of contempt and indifference to racialised others manifested by marginal (and marginalised) groups on the far right. So: I view ‘racism’ both as consisting of the propagation of racial crudities, as well as certain forms of power and social relations; forms and relations which are both complex and historically-embedded.

    Finally, as for ‘support’, this too takes many different shapes, and its importance is a matter of context. More subtle displays of racism by people in positions of power — for example, members of the recently-deposed Tory Government — may be considered more serious, in some ways, than crude expressions by those on the margins of society (and therefore political influence). In this sense, a racist ‘retard’ babbling racial obscenities online may be considered more ‘offensive’ than the curt displays of indifference by individuals such as Kevin Andrews, but in terms of having real effects upon other people’s lives, I think there’s little question that Andrews ultimately contributed more to the marginalisation and persecution of brown-skinned Muslims than our anonymous friend did.

  14. Vents: “I think Islam is fucking retarded (and dangerous). Same with Christianity. And Scientology. Now where do I sit on the political spectrum, Mick?”.

    Mick: I really couldn’t place you on any particular spectrum, but that sounds a little to the right.

    Andy: “Mick you make absolutely no sense.”

    Andy: “That’s a difficult question to answer SS … I think there’s little question that Andrews ultimately contributed more to the marginalisation and persecution of brown-skinned Muslims than our anonymous friend did.”

    Mick: …of course, I make no sense.

  15. Lumpen: “Lay off the eggnog, Mick.”

    Mick: Lay off the BS propagander, Lumps.

    Andy: “Serious forms of organised racism, on the other hand, often aspire to (re-)obtain positions of authority and power, especially through the state, and to then proceed to (re-)employ legal — and therefore ‘legitimate’ — forms of violence in pursuit of their aims (for example, the re-introduction of a White Australia).”

    Mick: Contrary to anarchy, isn’t it?

  16. Mick Reyfield says:

    Anyway, Andy, why don’t we organise a place to meet? I assume that you attend Melbourne University, which is only an hour’s drive from where I live.

  17. Dr. Cam says:

    Why don’t we all meet up for tea and crumpets in Torquay?

  18. vents says:

    You mean, like a date?

  19. Lumpen says:

    I’m with Vents on the Christianity and Islam thing, but I have to say I find the worship of Scient and the volcano ghosts to be totally compatible with anarchism.

  20. Darrin Hodges says:

    Who’s buying?

  21. Adam says:

    make the crumpets vegan and no fucking lipton tea and i’m in

  22. Sophia says:

    Adam: No Lipton? Not even the catchy jingle? For shame!

  23. vents says:

    Straight outta volcano, stabby mothafucka named Xenu, from the gang called thetans with attitude

  24. vents says:

    Mick Reyfield there is a huge difference between saying Islam is shithouse and saying that muslims are filthy cunts that should be deported. One will get you called a racist, yeah.

  25. Adam says:

    owned by unilever, who test on animals … and i happen to like furry things

  26. Darrin Hodges says:

    “One will get you called a racist, yeah.”

    And how does that work Vents?. Islam is not race, it’s a religion. A Muslim is not a racial descriptor, rather it denotes a follower of Islam. So how is it related to race?

  27. vents says:

    Nah you’re right Darrin hodges it doesn’t but the muslim in Australia is generally not white and the discrimination against them generally has fuck all to do with Islam and more to do with their ethnicity. I don’t know man, you are the racist here, you tell me?

  28. Darrin Hodges says:

    It was only a few weeks ago when the residents of a Sydney suburb objected to a religious building proposal – in this case by the Hillsong church. Now given that Hillsong is Christian and the majority of Christians in this country are white, does that mean the residents of Rosebery are racist?

    Now obviously there are people who object to Islam on the grounds that some Muslims are non-white. This is clearly erroneous as there are a growing number of “white” converts. So in regards to Islam, race is not a valid way of objecting and will not inhibit the spread of Islam in Australia.

    I work with some Christians from the mid-east (including descendants of survivors of the Armenian genocide), who kindly provide Arabic translations of various materials. They also relate stories to me of their experiences living under the heel of Mohammad as Christians. They cannot understand why Australians are allowing the spread of Islam in Australia – after what it has done to their homelands.

  29. vents says:

    If you wanna criticise Islam have at it, but if you seriously entertain some scenario where we are going to be ‘living under the heel of Mohammed’ in this country you’re in fantasy world.

    I suspect that your mob (and Hillsong) have a vested interest in promoting Islam as some cultural identity that immigrants are bringing with them to ‘spread’. However just because I say that my cock is 10 inches and stays hard all night doesn’t make it true either. A couple of weeks ago I met a Bosnian “muslim” at the pub who was drinking harder liquor than me and racist as fuck too. The vast majority of “Christians” do not go to church on Sunday and eat fish on Friday – if you follow.

    You have a (white) agenda. Islam is convenient for you. Be honest Darrin.

  30. KinkyBoy says:

    [Kinky: honestly, get a blog dude. I’ll even publish the address. This is getting ridiculous.]

  31. Darrin Hodges says:

    “If you wanna criticise Islam have at it, but if you seriously entertain some scenario where we are going to be ‘living under the heel of Mohammed’ in this country you’re in fantasy world.”

    Perhaps not in my lifetime Vents, but one must consider the future. Lebanon used to be a Christian country, now it is 60% Islamic. I bet they probably used to think like you.

    It is true that there are people who would be considered to be “lapsed”, however this is harder to tell with Muslims, as they are permitted under the doctrine of taquiyya to do what is normally considered haram if it in the interests of the religion. There are also such groups in Australia such as Tablighi Jamaat whose purpose is to encourage Muslims to return to practicing the faith in strict accordance to the Qur’an. They have been successful in doing in this and have been on the periphery of some notable terrorist actions, London 7/7, Richard Reid (failed shoe bomber) and the Glasgow terrorist attack to name a few.

    They (TJ) are behind the planned Camden school and are also behind the Mega-Mosque slated for London. If the Mosque is approved in London, it will be a visible symbol of Britain’s submission to Allah – continental Europe isn’t far behind. The school in Camden simply represents the ongoing Jihad in Australia. Jihad doesn’t have to entail violence. Jihad means “to struggle in the way of Allah” – this can mean simply building a school or getting favourable media coverage for example.

    And yes, we have an agenda. To resist the spread of Islam, as we believe it to be antithetical to the traditions of Australia and we want Australia to remain a country with a European majority, much as it is today. Or we can sit back and become like France, Sweden or Britain.

  32. @ndy says:

    On Lebanon: yeah, almost 60% of the population is Islamic. (Or so the Israeli Ambassador and the CIA reckons.) But this population is further divided into Shi’a, Sunni, Druze, Isma’ilite, Alawite and Nusayri (just as the Christian minority population itself is subject to further division). ‘Islam’ is not the monolith of the popular imagination, any more than Christianity is in the minds of others. In addition, the four million or so people who comprise the nation/state of ‘Lebanon’ are further divided according to class, ethnicity, gender, sex and sexuality, and politics. In modern historical terms, the nation/state of Lebanon is a creation of the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire and subsequent French dominion in the region; the point being that people of one sort or another have been inhabiting the region for about 7,000 years, and it appears that a Christian majority is both relatively recent and a creation of empire — as indeed, are many if not all facts such as these.

    Beyond that, it’s quite a stretch to locate the fact that “Lebanon used to be a Christian country” — a fact of dubious significance in any case — to the future of Australia as a Muslim country, a possibility which one must apparently now combat by opposing the construction of an Islamic school in Camden. (By the way, the idea that Lebanese Christians of the early to mid-twentieth century used to think like Vents is quite amusing.)

    In any case, assuming that members of Tablighi Jamaat (The Quranic Society) are indeed responsible for the construction, administration and management of the school, elsewhere you conflate this group with (violent) terror, not (peaceful) jihad. Thus according to the leaflet produced by the AANCC (and presumably distributed in Camden at recent meetings there): “Tablighi Jamaat is a conveyor belt of terrorism — turning good Muslims into Islamic terrorists — now they are coming to Camden”. In other words, terrorists are coming to Camden! In the shape of a school! A School for Little Terrorists!

    Secondly, this leaflet is hosted by wpwwfiles.com (wpww meaning White Pride World Wide). The site hosts a range of white supremacist documents, and links to a range of other sites, including poor old David Innes’ Down Under Nationalist Resource site — it even appears that David is responsible for this site too? And yet, you claim that your sole animus is towards Islam… Oddly, you contradict yourself in your last paragraph: after being at pains to distinguish between Islam as religion and Islam as race, you claim that opposition to its spread in Australia is key to securing a European majority.

  33. Darrin Hodges says:

    The files are hosted there because I’m not one to knock back a free offer, although I will be looking to relocate everything shortly due to the inconvenience of blogger’s “content warning” page. I don’t know what Innes is doing and neither do I care, this is only an example of you tying up little factoids to conform to your view of things.

    As for the supposed contradiction, there is no contradiction as Islam would change the fundamental structure of Australian society if it were adopted on a large scale. Australia would remain predominantly European, but it would be an alien society.

    Early in the twentieth century, a book was written and distributed that made the author’s intentions quite clear: world conquest, except nobody took notice of the clear and unambiguous ideas of its author, instead it was thought he was a man “we could do business with” and as a result have “peace in our time”. They were wrong and as a result 55 million people died including of course six million Jews.

    The Qur’an and the Sunnah also have quite clear intentions, some of which were exercised by Muslims during WWII, to wit, an Arab language broadcast by al-Husseini, Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and guest of Adolf Hitler:

    “Arabs, rise as one man and fight for your sacred rights. Kill the Jews wherever you find them. This pleases God, history, and religion. This saves your honor. God is with you.”

    This is of course based on the Hadith (Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 176~177) this is why Adolf had so many fans in the middle east, as Islamic eschatology requires the extermination of Jews for its completion. There is also this testimony from one of Eichmann’s aides during the Nuremberg trials:

    “The Mufti was one of the initiators of the systematic extermination of European Jewry and had been a collaborator and adviser of Eichmann and Himmler in the execution of this plan… He was one of Eichmann’s best friends and had constantly incited him to accelerate the extermination measures. I heard him say, accompanied by Eichmann, he had visited incognito the gas chambers of Auschwitz.”

    So if the Holocaust is to mean anything, it is not just the remembrance of the victims, it is the reminder of the ideologies that drove it. This means we should avoid the repetition of history and in this case, requires strong opposition to the growth of Islam.

    As for Tablighi Jamaat, it is fact that it has been associated at one level or another with terrorism, both in Pakistan and Europe. As the mission of TJ is to return Muslims to the orthodox fold, this increases the risk of Muslims committing terrorist acts as they strive not only in the “way of Allah” but also to follow the prophet’s example.

  34. @ndy says:


    On the one hand, you write: “And yes, we have an agenda. To resist the spread of Islam, as we believe it to be antithetical to the traditions of Australia and we want Australia to remain a country with a European majority, much as it is today. Or we can sit back and become like France, Sweden or Britain.”

    Previously, you wrote: “Tablighi Jamaat is a conveyor belt of terrorism — turning good Muslims into Islamic terrorists — now they are coming to Camden”.

    A few points.


    Despite a reference to ‘good Muslims’, it appears evident that, judging by the sum of your other writings, you reject Islam — that “despicable religion of filth” — in toto, and in quite violent terms. For example:

    “Of course the Muslim scum that infest this country will either feign “horror” or come up with some spin [ enter Kayser Trad ] as a way of justifying this evil letter. The solution is to deport every last Muslim scum from this country, they can take their burqas, their bombs and their filthy religion and relocate back to the Islamic shit-hole they came from. Any worthless traitor who has converted to Satan’s religion of filth can go with them, you are no longer Australian, you are unwanted and unwelcome in this country.” (December 5, 2007)

    “Truly Islam is a religion of filth, perversion and dirt and I look forward to the day when Islam is finally eradicated from the minds of men.” (December 3, 2007)

    “The solution is simple: deport the Muslim filth.” (October 25, 2007)

    In other words, you object not just to Tablighi Jamaat, but to Islam as a whole, which you regard as being not just ‘foreign’ but fundamentally ‘evil’.


    Your political agenda — and by ‘your’ I mean both you personally and the other members and associates of the Anglo-Australian National Community Council and the Australian Protectionist Party — extends beyond a desire to cleanse Australia of Muslims, to include the ethnic and racial cleansing of Australia of non-whites. In other words, you wish to (re-)introduce a white, Christian Australia. Thus you also oppose the ‘Asianisation’ of Australia, a process which you identify with the ALP, and which amounts to a form of genocide (‘Is Asianisation White genocide?’, July 24, 2007). In these and other respects — opposition to ‘socialism’, ‘multiculturalism’ and other forms of cultural and political decadence — your political agenda accords with that of the traditional far right. The only (relatively) novel aspect of your politics is the central role it accords opposition to Islam, on the one hand, and the relatively warm response to the Jewish presence in the country (and for Zionism) on the other.


    The simplest and most reasonable explanation for the fact that your files are hosted by a white supremacist site (wpwwfiles.com) is because you’re a white supremacist, and the leaflet regarding the school in Camden is part of a campaign you and others are conducting against its construction, one which is in accord with and constitutes a logical extension of your ideology into the realm of practice. It’s not a matter of “little factoids” but the constant reiteration of your political views over the course of several years that leads me to the conclusions above; the question of hosting is a symptom, not a cause.


    The ‘contradiction’ I allude to is two-fold. First, your claiming, on the one hand, that “we want Australia to remain a country with a European majority” and at the same time claiming not to have a racist agenda. Secondly, as you yourself acknowledge, Islam is a religion, not a race. It’s therefore perfectly possible, at least theoretically, for a country such as Australia to be both of majority European descent and Islamic. As such, while Islam may be in some, many, most or even all respects antithetical to the traditions which have their roots in the values, institutions and cultures of the British Empire of the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, opposition to it must be distinguished (all things being equal) from opposition to a non-White Australia. In practice, however, while often being careful to reiterate this point — and to therefore escape being characterised as a (mere) racist — you tend to slip from one category to the other. The fact that, in addition to being vehemently antagonistic to Islam, you are also a racist, renders this tendency fairly easily explicable.


    Many groups opposed Hitler and the Nazis, as well as the numerous other fascist groupings and tendencies in existence in early twentieth century Germany. Among them were the anarchists. They and members of the other, organised, militant forms of opposition to the Nazi regime, especially in the labour movement, were among its first victims. Of course, anarchists also fought Franco in Spain, Mussolini in Italy and the Bolsheviks in Russia.

    Suffice it to be said that the anarchists did not regard Hitler as someone “we could do business with”!

    In any case, to attribute sole responsibility for the Shoah and for the tens of millions of others killed in WWII to the incestuous coprophiliac‘s scribblings in Mein Kampf is hardly a creditable thesis, as anyone with even a passing knowledge of early and mid-twentieth century European history could inform you. The most obvious question, in this case, being: Why did Mister Shitler’s writings resonate so widely (if indeed they did)? Keep in mind that when it was first published in 1925 it sold poorly, and it was only when the Nazis came to power that — quelle surprise! — it became a bestseller.

  35. Mick Reyfield says:

    I would like to ask a question: Why do you demonise those who oppose Islam, Andy?

    Islam has only proven to be destructive, and unworthy to be assimilated into Australian culture. Every time Islam is brought up amongst people, all I ever hear are suicide bombings, gang attacks committed by these militant/fascist sects. My impression is these pseudo-fascists need to be isolated and monitored to ensure the safety of normal, law-abiding Australians – it’s not neo-Nazism that’s a cause for concern, it’s Islam!

  36. @ndy says:

    A: I don’t.

    “Islam” is not one thing, any more than “Christianity” is — there’s some distance between, say, Christian ‘anarchists’ and, say, Opus Dei.

    And just as it’s possible to have different versions of Christianity, it’s also possible to have different versions of Islam. In Australia, Islam has not — to the best of my knowledge — ever been implicated in the commission of acts of terror. That all you ever hear about in relation to Islam is “suicide bombings” and “gang attacks” is not all that surprising; assuming, that is, that what you read is the Herald Sun and that what you hear is informed by such media. Beyond that, Islam has a long history — about 1,400 years to be exact — and to claim that it has only been “destructive” is demonstrably false. To what extent it may or has been “assimilated” into “Australian culture” is also a complex question, but one might begin by observing that the few hundred thousand Muslims who currently reside here are generally law-abiding, and I’m unaware of any claims by the relevant authorities to the contrary. Otherwise…


    As for monitoring, ASIO and other government agencies have devoted massive resources to monitoring Islamic communities in Australia.

  37. Mick Reyfield says:

    I don’t know what to say, Andy. All I can say is this, if you want to support fascism such as Islam, then don’t attack us for wanting Australia to be a majority white nation. Why I would like Australia to mainly be European: because, every European country is in the midst of being torn, culturally, by multiculturalism. So, Andy, if such a nation doesn’t suit you, move to Asia, or wherever!

  38. @ndy says:

    According to Rear Admiral Jules Sébastien César Dumont d’Urville I live in Oceania. Partly as a result of imperialist rivalry in Europe in the late eighteenth century, I live in ‘Australia’, the world’s smallest, and driest, continent, southeast of Asia between the Pacific and Indian oceans.

    As Robert Hughes noted (The Fatal Shore, p.66):

    The proposal to colonize Botany Bay with convicts was formally drawn up… in an unsigned document titled “Heads of a Plan for effectually disposing of convicts” and was presented to the [British] cabinet in August 1786. Its emphasis was clear: The proposed colony would serve as “a remedy for the evils likely to result from the late alarming and numerous increase of felons in this country, and more particularly in the metropolis.” The secondary benefit of the region’s raw materials was presented at the end of the document: “It may also be proper to attend to the possibility of procuring… masts and ships’ timber for the use of our fleets in India, as the distance between the two countries is not greater than between Great Britain and America…”


    By 1837, hanging was mainly restricted to cases of murder, while crime after crime — forgery, cattle-theft, housebreaking — was relegated to the less terrible and magical status of a “transportable” offense. Slowly, the English authorities acknowledged the mistakes and fantasies that had led their predecessors to fetishize the death penalty. But the real rise of transportation began, not with the law itself, but with its new enforcers: the “peelers,” the English police, established by Sir Robert Peel in 1827. A police force meant a huge rise, not in gross crime, but in successful arrests and convictions. Likewise, the abandonment of transportation was not caused by any fall in crime, but by three other factors: the growing moral and political opposition to the System [of transportation] among English reformers in the 1830s, the growth of an alternative English penitentiary system and the Australians’ own opposition to a continuous dumping of fresh criminals on what, after 50 years of settlement, they had come to view as their own soil.


    In their most sanguine moments, the authorities hoped that [Australia] would eventually swallow a whole class — the “criminal class,” whose existence was one of the prime sociological beliefs of late Georgian and early Victorian England. Australia was settled to defend English property not from the frog-eating invader across the Channel but from the marauder within. English lawmakers wished not only to get rid of the “criminal class” but if possible to forget about it. Australia was a cloaca, invisible, its contents filthy and unnameable. Jeremy Bentham, inveighing against the “thief-colony” in 1812, argued that transportation: “…was indeed a measure of *experiment*… but the subject-matter of experiment was, in this case, a peculiarly commodious one; a set of *animae viles*, a sort of excrementitious mass [ie, shit], that could be projected, and accordingly was projected — projected, and as it should seem purposely — as far out of sight as possible.”

    And in reference to property, as some body called Karl once wrote:

    All fixed, fast-frozen relations, with their train of ancient and venerable prejudices and opinions, are swept away, all new-formed ones become antiquated before they ossify. All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned … the need of a constantly expanding market for its products chases the bourgeoisie over the whole surface of the globe. It must nestle everywhere, settle everywhere, establish connections everywhere…

    To put it another way: kiss my white arse.

  39. @ndy says:

    And here’s a few little somethings from Europe for you to go on with. Traditional European values ‘n’ all that.








  40. Darrin Hodges says:

    Yeah, he shoulda stuck to his painting. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_D7WtOHZd0

  41. Lumpen says:

    Forget it, Darrin. You’ll never be down with us, no matter how many Monty Python skits you link to. Was that an attempt to be seen as the moderate racist?

    I also would like to be the first person of 2008 to remind you how ugly you are.

  42. Darrin Hodges says:

    lol, I have no intention of being “down with you”, being the leftist scum that you are.

  43. Dr. Cam says:

    You’d love to get down with us, Darrin. We’ll crack open a cask of fruity white, chuck on your copy of When My Wife’s Away, I Like Dick and see where the evening takes us.

  44. mickel reyfeldous says:

    Yeah, why would you want to be “down” with guys who hate you for no apparent reason.

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