Ian Stuart : Zero of the White Race, Skrewdriver, and “The Battle of Waterloo”
Published by @ndy September 25th, 2006 in Anti-fascism, History, MusicUpdate : September 25, 2008: A good (if typically flawed) biography of Ian and Skrewdriver, ‘The Legacy of Ian Stuart’, Fat Richard Warwick, Swindle, No.3. Note that while German label Rock-O-Rama — on which Skrewdriver released an album (Hail The New Dawn) and single (Invasion/On The Streets) in 1984 — has since evolved into Belgian label Pure Impact, a fascist-sympathising businessman, Herbert Egoldt, remains at the helm (if in the shadows). Note too that ex-Skrewydriver bassist Murray Holmes is back playing gigs Down Under with The Quick & The Dead, and with the support of local (Perth) punk band The Homicides.
- Above : Front cover image, No Retreat: The Secret War Between Britain’s Anti-Fascists and the Far Right
Neo-Nazi skinhead Ian Stuart Donaldson (b.1957) was killed in a car accident in 1993, and ever since he’s a been a subject of veneration — well, for a handful of other boneheads anyway — as well as derision (everyone else). Before he died a long-overdue death, however, Stuart managed — as the founder of Blood & Honour and vocalist for Skrewdriver — to earn himself a reputation as being one of England’s most notorious boneheads… as well as being among the top one hundred of the finest musicians to ever come out of Blackpool with-a-Grammar-school-education and to then die-in-a-car-accident-in-1993.
In an interview in some zine or other, Stuart is alleged to have remarked (before his death… presumably) that:
I am not the type of person to creep and crawl to a bunch of weak-kneed, pacifist lefties and two-faced Zionists. One must be honest to people about one’s beliefs and especially when the survival of our very race is at stake. I have no doubt that anyone who expounds patriotic beliefs has a little black mark put against his name, and by now I must have a massive black mark near my name. C’est la guerre.
Mad as a cut snake, obviously.
But that wasn’t all there was to Stuart. For, as well being quite a daft bugger and a god-awful musician,* he was also a coward and a bully:
Following the events of May 27 [1989: B&H stupidly tried to hold a gig in London -- 'The Main Event' -- and got their arses kicked by Anti-Fascist Action], Ian Stuart left his house in King’s Cross and moved to Derbyshire. [AFA] heard rumours that the Chelsea Headhunters were trying to muscle in on on the [B&H] cash cow and were making threatening noises in his direction. There was, however, another reason for his swift departure from London, and that was the activities of a certain ex-Manc by the name of Hefty who harassed and attacked the [B&H] leader at every given opportunity.
The area around King’s Cross and Euston was bandit country. Lone fascists, small groups of [neo-Nazis] and even whole firms came to grief in the streets around the two stations. Hefty and a few other lads, namely AJ, Carl, Pete G, and Gavin, used to operate around that area and chanced upon Stuart on a number of occasions. They gave him and his followers a few serious hidings at various times, but the event that seemed to give Stuart the real horrors was when he went out early one morning to buy a newspaper and a pint of milk, and was hit across the head by a large Mancunian wielding a Lucozade bottle. Ian Stuart was a coward and a bully. He liked to throw his weight around when the odds were in his favour, but when confronted on any number of occasions by AFA lads he legged it and left his comrades to face the music…
[NB: "The Headhunter heyday was back in the mid-1980s when Steven Hickmott led the group... Hickmott was eventually picked up by police in the country's first undercover football operation. Sentenced to ten years for organising violence (later overturned after police evidence was questioned), Hickmott was replaced with Chris "Chubby" Henderson, a long-time [neo-Nazi] activist and singer with the Oi band Combat 84.” Locally, Combat 84 — alongside of Condemned 84 and a number of other racist/fascist Oi! bands — is available through Deadset Music.]
Stuart also had the privilege in his too-long life of being a failed businessman: between 1987 and 1989, AFA managed to close down the few shops in Carnaby Street scabby enough to actually stoop to selling his music and merchandise, leaving his few fans unhappy shoppers… and B&H humiliated.
Below is an account of ‘The Battle of Waterloo’ by a former member of Manchester AFA, Dave Hann; the battle between boneheads and antifa taking place the very last time Skrewdriver tried to play London, and a little over twelve months before Stuart made his final descent into Hell.
Curiously, it’s a little known fact that, at the time of his death, Derby Coroner Peter Ashworth concluded:
We are still no nearer finding out what caused this tragic accident. All we can say is that, whatever his parent’s defects, Stuart became less easy to control. But there must have been some other factor which contributed to the crash, even if Ian had not grabbed the wheel in a way many others in the same situation would never have done.
So, as we remember Ian the Bonehead, we should also remember all the other Boneheads.
And send them our very best wishes.
STAGE BOTTLES - Dead But Not Forgiven
- Ian couldn’t drive a car
As we all know
He trusted too much in all his gods
And though he was a human being
We don’t feel any sorrow for him
Now we got rid of one of those cunts
He’s been one of our most important enemies
So we forget our respect for life
Cause all he did was senseless shit
[...]
Now we’re here and having our fun
Having our fun and thinking about him
He’s been the one who misused the word Skinhead
He himself was never one - he was a fucking Bonehead
[*Some conspiracy theorists maintain that 'the Jews' are 'the ones what are responsible' for not only Stuart's 'accidental' death but his 'deliberate' birth too; seemingly on the basis that his music -- being so unbearably mediocre -- was devised solely in order to discredit the bonehead image, and to ruin the cottage White Power? Give 'Em A Golden Shower! muzak industry that was borne in his flatulent wake.]
The Battle of Waterloo, September 12th, 1992
In August 1992, posters proclaiming “Skrewdriver Back in London” were spotted in various parts of the country. They were advertising a Blood and Honour [B&H] concert due to take place in London on September 12. At first we assumed it was a hoax, as Skrewdriver hadn’t even attempted to play in London since The Main Event, but as time went by it became obvious that it was anything but a hoax.
The concert was once more touted to be a massive affair, with up to 2,000 [neo-Nazis] expected to attend and several bands playing, including Skrewdriver, Skullhead, No Remorse and a Swedish band called Dirlewanger. There was a rumour flying about that a mainstream music promoter was willing to seriously back [B&H] if the gig proved a success and any opposition was muted or destroyed. Once again the gig was at a secret location with a re-direction point, which this time was at Waterloo Station at 5.30pm. We heard on the grapevine that both the BNP and the British Movement (BM) had been approached to help with security for the event.
By coincidence, a week before the concert the AFA’s Unity Carnival was due to take place on Hackney Downs in London. A request was made for stewards to attend from around the country in case the fash tried a pre-emptive strike, but nothing untoward happened and the carnival passed off peacefully. Maybe the fash were hoping that if they left us alone, we would leave them alone. Fat chance.
The carnival was cold and rain-swept, but at least it gave us a chance to alert an already interested audience to the following weekend’s events. In the meantime, London AFA contacted all the various anti-racist and anti-fascist groups with details of what was to happen at Waterloo, but no-one seemed interested. The ANL suddenly decided that they were holding a march in Thornton Heath, more than fifteen miles away. So it looked like we were on our own, but then we never seriously expected anything else.
Neil Parrish, who had become one of [B&H]’s main organisers, boasted to the media that he would be available at 4.30pm on the station concourse to give interviews. A Sky News reporter was worried that he wouldn’t be able to find the bones and was told that as they were expecting between 1,000 and 2,000 at the station, “you’ll have no trouble finding us”. By a strange coincidence, 4.30pm was when London AFA announced that they were also calling a counter-demonstration at the station.
We took about twenty stewards down from Manchester. All the usual suspects were present, including Gerry, Steve, Wigan Mike, Gary the Axe, Solo, Big Dave and the rest. We eventually arrived in the Smoke at 1pm and met up with the London AFA lads in a pub on the Holloway Road. AFA groups from around the country were arriving all the time, swelling numbers to about 200. The atmosphere was tense because everyone knew that this was the big one. It really was a case of do or die. We had a fair-sized mob out that day, with good numbers from Liverpool, Doncaster and London itself, but it looked tiny in comparison to what I knew we could expect to find at Waterloo.
I tried to push all thoughts of what lay ahead to the back of my mind. I was nervous and tense but did my best to appear laid back and unconcerned. Sometimes it just hits you like that. Sometimes you’re really buzzing and up for it, while at others you get a queasy feeling in the pit of your stomach. Either way you have to force yourself to stay cool, especially when you are in a position where other people are relying on you to keep a clear head.
At 3.20pm, AFA’s Stewards’ Group appeared on the station concourse at Waterloo, causing a number of bones to flee for their lives. Three boneheads drinking in the station were set upon. The police tried to push their way through the AFA mob crowding at the entrance to the bar in an attempt to arrest those inside, and in doing so missed the guilty parties making good their escape through another exit not ten feet away. We heard rumours afterwards that these first casualties were in fact plainclothes police sent to Waterloo to infiltrate [B&H].
Both Steve and Gerry were involved in early exchanges with the [neo-Nazis], but Gerry hurt his hand punching someone on the side of the head. He spent the rest of the afternoon complaining about it. “I think I’ve broken ma fuckin’ knuckle”, he moaned.
More boneheads were attacked as they entered the station, and the police were forced to cordon off the [neo-Nazis] in the middle of the station concourse. Along with several other AFA stewards I infiltrated the cordon. Once inside I sidled up behind the biggest bonehead I could find and started kicking him surreptitiously in the back of the ankles.
“You’re going to die when we get out of here”, I whispered into his ear.
He tried to ignore me, but he was shaking like a leaf.
“Did you hear me, you baldy wanker?” I goaded. “When we get out of here I’m going to kill you.”
All the colour had drained out of him and for a moment I thought he was going to faint. His misery was brought to an end when the police decided to escort the [neo-Nazis] out of the station to safety, but once outside, and out of view of the CCTV cameras, they were astonished when their escort suddenly imploded from within as the anti-fascists turned on the boneheads. The bonehead I was goading earlier had shot off like a rabbit, and I only managed to land a couple of glancing blows on the back of his head.
This scenario was re-enacted several times over the next hour and a half as we continued to resist police attempts to force us off the station concourse. While this game of cat and mouse was going on, other groups of anti-fascists were ambushing boneheads coming up the escalators from the tube station.
I was arrested by the Transport Police at Waterloo Station during one of these scuffles, but for some reason I was never charged with anything, and to my surprise they released me an hour or so later with a warning to leave the immediate area or risk being arrested again. I ignored the warning of course. There was no way I was going to miss this.
The Transport Police at Waterloo Station have a little office at the side of the concourse, and I basically took two steps out of the front door and I was smack bang in the middle of a full-scale riot again. Boneheads were still being chased and battered everywhere you looked, and the police had completely lost control of the situation.
By 5pm, there were nearly 1,000 anti-fascists on the concourse and fights were still breaking out all over the place. Shortly afterwards, the station was shut down at the request of the manager, freeing AFA from the responsibility of holding the concourse any longer and allowing us to surge out into the streets to confront the groups of boneheads mobbing up outside. Neil Parrish was nowhere to be seen.
Everywhere you looked boneheads were being battered and chased. A group of fifty right-wing casuals got themselves trapped under a footbridge, and despite being surrounded by riot police they came under attack from all sides, including an aerial bombardment of broken quarry tiles from the footbridge above…
Elsewhere, individuals and small groups arriving on foot or by car were picked off as they approached the station. One carload of bones was trapped when the driver made the unfortunate mistake of leaving his window wound down, providing an opportunistic anti-fascist with the chance to reach in and turn his engine off and remove the keys before the vehicle was attacked. The immobile car was nearly turned over.
I saw one panic-stricken bonehead run the entire length of the street with his arms covering his head to protect himself. A sensible enough precaution except for the fact that he couldn’t see where he was going and kept running into groups of anti-fascists who gave him the occasional dig as he ran past them. Eventually someone put him out of his misery and tripped him up. I caught him a beauty as he fell, my boot going upwards as he was falling forwards. Within seconds he was unconscious.
Four stations had now been shut down in the area due to “rioting”, including Charing Cross, making it difficult for anyone to reach Waterloo, although a large mob of bones arrived on foot via the footbridge across the Thames. They soon wished they hadn’t as they immediately came under attack. A number of football supporters from various clubs, including Arsenal, QPR, Millwall and Chelsea also found their way to the area and joined one side or the other according to their political beliefs.
The football supporters mostly arrived at Waterloo in ones or twos, or in small groups. Some were attempting to make their way home after the match, while others were attracted to the area by radio reports of the rioting. Millwall and Chelsea arrived mob-handed. Chelsea, as expected, were pretty much on the side of [B&H]. The situation with Millwall was less clear-cut. Everyone expected them to be 100 per cent behind the fash but when one of Millwall’s main men was approached by Nicky Cooper of the NF pleading for help on [B&H]’s behalf, he got more than he bargained for. He was apparently sent sprawling by a vicious punch and told, “We’ve come to kick their heads in, not go to their fucking stupid gig”. However, another well-known face at Millwall, “Tags” or “Taggart”, collapsed with a heart attack in the middle of the fascist ranks after coming under an anti-fascist bombardment of bricks and paving slabs.
Skirmishes continued all around Waterloo as the [neo-Nazis] and their police escorts came under concerted attack by large numbers of anti-fascists. The police did not know what to do with their escorts and the fascists themselves did not know where the venue was because Neil Parrish and the rest of the organisers were sat in a pub at Victoria Station. When phone calls were made by the trapped fascists to the organisers demanding that they either be given the venue details or be rescued, they were told that they should try to make their way to Victoria where they would be told the location of the gig…
Eventually the police managed to get things under control and escorted the remaining fash to Temple tube station where they were put on a commandeered train out of the area. In the end, less than 400 got into the gig at the Yorkshire Grey pub in Eltham, south-east London. The anti-fascists, meanwhile, were broken up into small groups by the police, cordoned off and escorted on foot across the Thames towards central and north London…
The papers the next morning all carried reports of the “Battle of Waterloo” and on the whole the reports were fairly accurate, except for the Sunday Times, which attributed the whole thing to the Anti-Nazi League [an SWP front oganisation]. This might have been because the ANL actually sent out a press release claiming responsibility. On a similar note, I cannot let the occasion pass without mentioning a small lefty sect by the name of Workers’ Power, who amid all the carnage and rioting at Waterloo, actually tried to do a paper sale!
On a foggy night in [September] 1993, Ian Stuart died in a car-crash in Derbyshire. His death opened the door for Combat 18 to muscle in on the Blood and Honour cash cow.
Source : No Retreat, pp.193-199
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You have no clue what you are talking about! You are the true bone-head.
I would suggest that yr comment is a perfect illustration of boneheadedness, courtney: all mouth, no trousers.
SOY FRANCO DE MAR DEL PLATA, ARGENTINA.
MUY BUENA LA PAGINA.
ACCION ANTIRACISTA.
PUNX & SKINS.
Hola franKo,
Soy Andres de Melbourne, Australia.
Muchas gracias.
¡Solidaridad internacional!
OH MY GOD, I DONT THINK ANY OF WOT I HAVE JUST READ IS ACTUALLY TRUE…
STILL OF COURSE THE LEFTY SCUM HAS TO LIE I SUPPOSE TO CON PEOPLE THAT THERE [sic] RIGHT, AGAIN.
DUH HELLO WIGAN DUH MIKE,
OH MY GODWIN, YOU OBVIOUSLY DON’T THINK — IT MAKE BRAIN HURT.
BUT MAYBE YOU RIGHT. MAYBE IAN STILL LIVE. SELL ROASTED CHESTNUT OR USED-CAR BY SIDE OF ROAD. WHILE PLAY BANJO.
IT ZOG CONSPIRACY TO KEEP TRUTH FROM PUBLIC!
CONTROLLED-MEDIA LIE! IAN LIVE STILL! WATERLOO BIG SUCCESS FOR BONEHEAD!
BONEHEAD FIRST TAKE WIGAN, THEN TAKE WORLD! IAN LEAD US TO GLORY, PLAY BANJO! NUMBER ONE SMASH HIT!
(Again.)
ANDY.
ARE YOU ON DRUGS, OR ARE YOU TRYING TO BE FUNNY?
IF YOURE ON DRUGS, THAT EXPLAINS YOUR MENTALITY, IF YOU WERE TRYING TO BE FUNNY, THEN IM AFRAID YOU FAILED, AS I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE WATERLOO INCIDENT RETARD, OR MAYBE I SHOULD BE MORE SPECIFIC NEXT TIME.
OK ERRRM ANDY ERRRM.
Wigan Mike,
STOP SHOUTING.
In answer to yr questions:
I am not on drugs.
But I am funny. Very funny.
(I’ve got a certificate and everything.)
So are you… but in a ’special’ kind of way.
(I’m sure you’ve got a certificate and everything too.)
Errrm, Waterloo, errrm.
B&H got their arses kicked. It was a farce. It was the last time B&H tried to organise a ‘big gig’ in London, following which the best they (you) could do was organise a gig in some scout hall in some rural village.
Well, until 1994…
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AFA Press Release
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“COMBAT 18 — BACK TO BASICS
As Anti-Fascist Action (AFA) predicted, the fascist Blood and Honour concert organized as a tribute to dead fascist Ian Stuart and planned for January 15, 1994 ended as a replay of The Battle of Waterloo (a major rout for Blood and Honour in September 1992), this time between fascist stewards and the riot police. After their first choice venue in Beckontree had been rumbled by AFA, Combat 18 (the militant fascist group organizing the show) directed their supporters to the Wellington (an old British Movement pub from the 80s), near Waterloo Station. Earlier in the day at around 4.30 pm. one hundred and fifty AFA militants took advantage of the confusion caused by other anti-fascist groups (the Anti-Nazi League and Youth Against Racism in Europe) and the concentration of police at Beckontree and Barking, and descended unexpectedly on the Little Driver pub in Bow Road, the nerve centre of the fascist operation on the day. Police managed to stop the AFA advance just yards from the pub, when the fascists scattered as a flare fired from the advance hit a nearby bridge. After Waterloo, C18 took over security for Blood and Honour events, talking of a “back to basics” return to secret gigs organized on a word of mouth basis. The events of January 15, 1994 were a disaster in turn for C18 and the “back to basics” strategy.
The arrival of AFA at the centre of operations caused total panic and confusion with one of C18’s leading activists seeking refuge in the back of a police car. AFA militants were forced by the police into a sealed train and taken from Bow Road to Earls Court, throwing the rail network into chaos. Later in the evening, about 8.00 pm., the ANL were attacked by the police at Earls Court. In the confusion AFA regrouped and re-emerged at 9.30 pm., at Waterloo where the fascists were attempting to hold their gig. Police later described the ability of AFA to find the opposition as “uncanny”.
News of the arrival of over one hundred AFA militants in the immediate vicinity caused C18 organisation at the Wellington to internally combust. Initially the fascists wanted to get out, seconds later the riot police smashed their way in. Badly beaten fascists, covered in blood, were dragged face down from the pub and laid on the pavement. The pub smashed, the gig was cancelled. Fascists attempting to flee the Wellington met a similar fate, at the hands of AFA militants in the area. For C18 and Blood and Honour this has to be seen as a major disaster. For AFA, with all the players - ANL, YRE, C18, Blood and Honour and the Met in the arena - it is a triumph. It was AFA’s intelligence gathering capacity which revealed the redirection points and the planned venues. On the day AFA controlled the play, were ahead of the game and made all the decisive moves.”
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Joe Reilly, ‘It Woz AFA Wot Done It!’, *Red Action*, Vol 3, No 6, April / May 1999:
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“In fact, while generally not as acclaimed, as either ‘The Main Event’ or the ‘Battle of Waterloo’ encounters, events around ‘The Little Driver’ pub in Bow, E. London proved to be the final nail in the B&H coffin. And as a by-product the beginning of the end for C18.
As soon as night fell a 150 strong AFA stewards group advanced on the pub. Initially, about 50 C18 emerged to do battle, but whether they were unnerved by a flare hitting a bridge overhead, or the ‘Zulu’ chant of the menacing mob, they broke ranks and were there for the taking. A complete rout was prevented by the intervention of mounted and baton wielding police from a station opposite, and the attack lost momentum. Leading C18 figures, utterly humiliated, were seen begging for police protection, one even jumping unsolicited into the back of a cop’s car in an effort to get out of the area.
As a result it was the last time B&H would even attempt to play in the capital. And worse everybody knew why. C18 after being brought into existence in 1991, to protect the far-right, were now shown to be incapable of protecting even themselves. It was probably not entirely a coincidence that within weeks of the debacle, the BNP choose to declare that “there would be no more marches, meetings, punch-ups”. C18 meanwhile, clearly incapable of sustaining the media myth of invincibility (a myth carefully nurtured by *Searchlight* incidentally) began to turn inward on itself. For them, the gig, forgive the pun, was up. After The Little Driver the C18/B&H operation limped along only for a while, before ending in ignominy, betrayal and ultimately grisly murder.”
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Truth hurts eh?
tosser! if you had any friggin bottle you ‘n’ lil fatboy cam would show your faces.
nothin’ but gutless leftwinger scum… tisk tisk tisk
ouch.
ill tell you whats gutless, was when a group of dickheads bullied a woman. importantly (but off the topic), my grandfather didnt fight in the second world war so a goose-stepping cockhead like you could hijack aussie pride, shit-for-brains.
@ndy: crikey, its cold down here. go the hawks!
shit, i thought you was being all irony ’til i read you supported the hawks.
piss and poo rules!
Ah yes, the Little Driver. Memories of another life in London all those years ago.. Dying for a piss whilst being taken by private tube, with a police escort, to the other side of the city.
Don’t worry my fellow patriots, this Andy can’t even type a straight sentence to why he believes in anarchism.
Been drinking again Mick?
!What a load of shit talk! Ian was not a coward. As if you lefty social do-gooders would stand and get your [asses] flogged and heads stomped, you [U]ni student scum are so noble and brave. [I] hope dirty [M]uslim [P]akis[tanis] rape your kids!
Gosh and bother and tish and fiffle. Such a potty mouth! I think that your parents should demand a refund from the finishing school you attended young lady!
Dave Hann: ‘A couple of friends of mine jumped him before a Blood and Honour gig at Swiss Cottage, and managed to hit him a couple of times before he ran away. At the gig afterwards, he deliberately left the blood to dry on his forehead, so that he could appear more heroic, and then went on stage and claimed that he had fought off a whole mob of “reds” single-handedly.’
Sounds like a real hero, TripleA.
You are the race traitor red scum that give this country a bad name.
Obviously you are proud to be only 9% of white british in the U.K.
Ian [stuart] donaldson was the voice of britain and he would be turning in his grave that commies like you killed him [...] as you cant stand the truth.
[You] red commie scum are talking out of your arses [and] cant get your tongues out of the russian arseholes.
go back to worshipping your zog machine.
14/88
i was there in 92 and just wish i came across you! all hard with your words which are probably lies anyway as we battered you before you all ran away like the cowards that you have always been.
if i had bumped into you i would have ripped off your [head] and used it as a football you prick.
Hey SKIN88,
English not your first language eh?
1) I’m not sure what “country” you’re referring to (”You are the race traitor red scum that give this country a bad name”), but I live in Australia, and am of ‘Anglo-Celtic’ descent. As for being a race traitor, I find myself cursed in that I find women of all creeds and colours attractive, so yeah, ‘would-be-if-I-could-be’ I guess. ‘Red scum’? Hmmm. Tough one that. Would ‘anarchist scum’ be acceptable to you? I’d prefer it.
2) I’m not quite sure how I could be “proud to be only 9% of white [B]ritish in the U.K.” — unless perhaps there’s been some kind of terrible disaster in the UK overnight and 99.99% of the population has somehow died, and I’m about to be kidnapped and transported to England, Scotland and/or Wales… in which case, I might be ‘proud’, I dunno… can you give me some more time to think about it?
3) Ian was the voice of Ian. I doubt he’s turning in his grave, as I expect he’s probably dead by now… well, unless you’re suggesting that he’s a zombie or something, forever condemned to walk the Earth, moaning ‘White Power’. Or something.
4) “[You] red commie scum are talking out of your arses [and] cant get your tongues out of the [R]ussian arseholes.” SKIN88, you don’t happen to have an obsession with arses do you? Russian arses in particular? I mean don’t get me wrong — I don’t mind, honest — just asking is all.
5) “[G]o back to worshipping your zog machine.” Cheers. I was actually in the middle of oiling it when you rang.
Big fat antifa hugs ‘n’ kisses,
@ndy.
@ndy… you sound about 14.
and if ian stuart was around today… people like you wouldn’t be talking you would be all scared of him and his master race.
all this stuff being said about ian stuart has only been said after he died.
you were all scared of him when he was alive. Talk shit GET HIT.
Anti_Arab… If I sound about 14, that’s because I sup daily from the fountain of youth.
As for the rest, you’re just being silly and pretentious.
All this stuff about Ian being a racist idiot was said to him numerous times during his short life; it was true then, and it remains so now.
The bloke was a loser.
Now he’s a dead loser. Wherever you go, there you are.
@ndy i have read all your utter shit now please die. White Pride Worldwide.
Dear bolloxpig,
(If that is your real name…) You are the second person in the space of 24 hours to request or otherwise indicate that I can and in fact should die. As I stated in response to a previous request, I shall indeed die, as must we all. But unless I choose otherwise, the time and circumstances surrounding my death remain unknown. Short Pants Romance.
@ndy, fortunately people like you are very scarce throughout the world. I can see no use for people like yourself & your existence is merely a burden on society. The Aryan race is & always will be the superior race worldwide & you are not part of it. White Pride Worldwide.
Dear bolloxpig,
Phooey. People like me are everywhere. I’m quite ordinary, you see. Who asked you anyway? And what’s your opinion of my use value got to do with Ian the Skrewydriver? I’m not a part of the Aryan race? Buggered if I know. Says who? Someone called ‘bolloxpig’? Uh-huh. Red sky at night, shepherd’s delight.
@ndy. Your use value is connected to the late great Ian Stuart because people like you fail to see the greatness of people like Ian Stuart. If more people had listened to his voice whilst he was still alive, maybe England wouldn’t be the multi racial shithole that it has become. People with opinions like yours ruin countries. White Pride Worldwide.
I feel proud to be associated with such powerfully persuasive purveyors of rhetoric through virtue of my lower ratio of melanin than people’s whose genetic heritage is different. My pasty skin wrapped heart has filled with pale pride so powerful that I shall live my life solely using products and knowledge emanating from Western Europe and those societies and peoples who can be said to be closely aligned to Western European cultural traditions. I shall thus cease to use mathematics and all modern technologies depending on mathematics from this moment.
dj,
This would appear to be the most sensible course of action. Fat, Round, Six Foot Underground: Ian Stuart, Ian Stuart.
Ah Andy, but are you from Aryan-Nordic stock? I’m afraid the Aryan-Celtics, the majority of white Australians, are only good at imitating culture (which explains Australian Idol, Big Brother and the revival of Australian Gladiator). Much like the unicorn, the Nords have magic powers that allow them to create things, like culture. They also have the power to bestow the status of “Aryan” on other races, like the Japanese, a power only triggered when they are getting their arses kicked in a war. They can also subtract Aryanism by decree, like with the gypsies.
Thus, in a perfect and consistent application of both science AND magic, each and every Aryan drawn from Nordic stock can create the nation-state… in their hearts.. And you just can’t beat that.
Below is an image that I believe perfectly illustrates this process. If anyone has any questions about how “Aryan” came to be on top of the racial heap, I suggest further study of this image.
[? try again / send link / i post...]
courtney.. I agree, he is just a ramification of the jew, how? bein’ sharp, rash, gash.. antifa. lol.. everything jew makes to divide real patriotic skins. now with the fashion.. stupid jew making JEWDRIVER those bastards making covers of skrew.. stupid fags.
remember skins did not come from Lauren Aitken or whatever! that n***** bastard.
skins came out of the ’60s.. from the british xenofobic youth. that’s the only truth.
kick out those who are not of your country. working class.
SKINHEADS NEVER SURRENDER! 88!
melissa..
you make many good point. jew only make ramification..
where justice? him wrapped ’round tree.. like yellow ribbon..
JEWDRIVER not funny.. JEWSPANNER no funny… no jew funny.. jew bad.. jew so bad, patriot make thinking bad about head hurt how just..
remember skins not come from boat or UFO.. jew own UFO! jew drive boat aground in ’60s!
i am a master race. that truth.
RAHOWA!
I don’t think she even looked at the picture. 69! LOL! BBQ!
*May Ian Stuart live in the hearts of Europeans all across the world.
*May the European people survive the non-white flood invading their lands.
*May we have the courage to accept the right of all national groups to have a country of their own.
*May these sovereign countries live among each other in peace without an attempt of any one group at controlling other groups or policing the world.
Change WILL come, it’s just a matter of time and action.
Whites of European descent WILL wake up to the world’s racial realities. That reality is that we are being bred out of existence. We could possibly become extinct! If you honestly enjoy global diversity, then end local diversity to preserve it. THINK ABOUT IT!
Whites of European descent WILL expel all traitors and non-whites from Europe, Australia, U.S. and Canada… In order to PRESERVE OUR VERY EXISTENCE AS A UNIQUE GROUP OF PEOPLE.
Statistics: During colonial times, Europeans made up around 25% of the world population, which was a reasonable slice of the pie we call our total “diverse human population.” Now we make up less than 13% of the world population.
Why???
1. Miscegenation, AKA race mixing. Which goes against natural law.
2. Birth control. AKA legalized murder.
3. Most importantly, the non-white invasion of our land.
With special attention to Muslims and Africans in Europe and “Mestizos” in the U.S.
3,000-5,000 illegal aliens cross the southern border into the U.S. daily.
An invasion without weapons! People, more importantly, numbers have become the new weapon of choice for the hordes of foreign asylum seekers.
European scientists predict that if the current demographic trends continue, Europeans will be outnumbered in their own countries by 2030.
THIS IS NOT THE FUTURE THAT ANYONE WANTS, SO WHY FIGHT AGAINST WHITES WHO ONLY WANT THE RIGHT TO EXIST. THIS IS OUR UNIVERSAL RIGHT.
FREEDOM!
…the doctor will see you now.
Public Enemy
saidsampled it best:Black man, black woman: black baby.
White man, white woman: white baby.
White man, black woman: black baby.
Black man, white woman: black baby.
(Fear of a Black Planet)
Another way of putting it is LOOK AT THE DAMN PICTURE. It explains everything.
I’m from Europe, yet I couldn’t care less if my grandson is 10/20/50/80/100% “darker” than me. I just hope he/she has a good life.
Seriously, find a new hobby.
I recommend something with water and electricity.
Lumpen, that’s Farrakhan from the NOI (black nationalist/supremacist crew) and basically that quote is trying to prove that black people are the original and superior race ’cause they can make any colour whereas white can only make white. It is a bad quote to use, lol. They are fucking nutbags. It always surprised me that PE used them and so many black people continued to follow them after they did Malcolm X. Anyway back to the Skrewdriver. White pride worldwide 88 14.
BLASPHEMY!
I disagree. The lyrics right before that sample are:
The lyrics seem to be pouring scorn on the notion that mixing races somehow dilutes the person. I always understood the lyrics to mean that whites typically see their whiteness as “tainted” by blackness.
Gaah! I hope you’re not right. I love that song. And PE. They were the first non-metal group I listened to as a tacker (and Ice T: heard them the same afternoon).
Man, we anarchists need to get some numerology and mystic shit going on. 4/21! Thor! Amethyst! Heil Bratwurst!
Hey man, I am sorry to burst your bubble about PE & Chuck, but like pretty much anybody their politics were a little questionable at times. Sometimes racist, sometimes homophobic (actually on that record in question I think). That doesn’t mean they didn’t make some awesome tunes. But although reactionary, the NOI is a black nationalist (and racist, patriarchial and homophobic) organisation that infliltrated a lot of hip-hop back then. Malcolm X left them when he saw how full of shit they were and denounced racism and Farrakahn pretty much took his spot (and since then has basically admitted he at least had some sort of a hand in his murder albeit indirectly and apologised for it). Chuck even says about Farrakhan ‘don’t tell me that you understand, until you hear the man’. Ice-T on the other hand didn’t fall for that shit and while he has said and done some pretty questionable shit too - dude was a real life pimp at one stage, check the song ‘That’s how I’m living’ off Home Invasion - he was actually the first rapper to denounce homophobia on record so he gets props. They are both fucking great but that quote is definitely some pro-black shit and Farrakhan is a scumbag.
Google the Nation of Gods and Earths for some really bizarre pro-black ideology that was rampant at one stage in hip-hop - Wu-Tang, Queen Latifah, Rakim, the list goes on, pretty much everyone was into that shit at one point. I laugh when I see Queen Latifah on TV and remember her dressed in the African getup (the women were ‘Earths’ and as such had to cover 70% of their bodies like the Earth is 70% water LOL). But yeah, the NOI are definitely against race mixing, to say the least. I’d say Chuck is definitely a little older and probably thinks differently now about certain things. Anyway, fight the power!
Oh, I knew about the whole Farrakhan thing, but I had a totally different interpretation of that song, hence using the quote.
Speaking of ‘That’s How I’m Livin’, have you seen this version? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl-6mHI-N3g
Yeah! Fucking love this song. Cool interview with Ice on A Current Affair: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96i7TxFQCGU
Okay, so apparently it’s comedian Dick Gregory and not Farrakhan in that sample.
And I think I got the whole anti-racism tip on that song from the way it’s used on the movie Do the Right Thing. Are you SUPER sure that’s what the song is about?
I had no idea about the apparently anti-semitic lyrics (well, lyric) and the Professor Griff shit. Way to ruin my heroes, Vents. (Before the boneheads get excited, Prof. Griff was fired for the same remarks, recanted and rejoined the group some time later.)
Like you say, pretty much everyone has questionable politics at times. If I vetted hip-hop for homophobia I wouldn’t be left with much. Some of my favourite tracks are pretty intensely fucked lyrically (i.e. ‘No Vaseline’ by Ice Cube and ‘Fuck The Police’ by NWA), but not BECAUSE they are un-PC.
Woah. It’s a can of worms.
PS Re: The track on Fear of a Black Planet. It’s ‘Meet The G That Killed Me’. Chuck is plain wrong: the parts fit. He was probably just doing it wrong.
Ha ha!
Yeah you’re right… shit! I have one of Dick Gregory’s books here actually but I never got all the way through it. Maybe I should read it now. He sounds exactly like Farrakhan.
Public Enemy are anti-racist, but pro-black. Make of that what you will. Add to that their fondness of Farrakhan and the NOI.
Like some stooge said in the other thread, Bakunin said some questionable shit regarding this as well. People say dumb shit sometimes. We’re all human. Farrakhan probably said a few things once that Chuck loved and started taking his word as gospel. Also people react to their circumstances and experiences in life. A lot of hip-hop music is a reflection of people who grew up at the bottom of the shit heap and kept having shit shoveled on them their whole life. Same as the blues. I swear if we ever get rid of this class system and racism where is all the good music gonna come from?
Seriously though, if people judged me on the very worst things I had said and done in my life you would probably have a picture of me wearing a white sheet and burning a cross and stabbing some puppies to death. Chuck is cool.
Yeah, the whole NOI thing with PE was always a bit of a sticking point with me.
Belated grats on getting your album out vents.
It’s agreed then: Chuck is good. Ian Stuart is dead. All is right with the world.
hail ian stuart heroes never die 14/88
What if the heroes are drunkdrivers?
He’s not dead. He’s hanging out with Elvis, Princess Diana and Steve Irwin.
Ian was your hero, Harry. And he’s really dead. 20/20.
AoA interviewer: But it’s true that Malcolm X at times called whites “blue-eyed devils,” and espoused violence as a means to meet an end.
Maya Angelou: There was a time when Malcolm espoused the belief that all whites were “blue-eyed devils.” But he took his life in his own hands when he said, publicly, that he had been to Mecca, and there he saw blonde, blue-eyed men whom he could call brothers.
http://www.achievement.org/autodoc/page/ang0int-4
farrakhan and friends
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Farrakhan#Neturei_Karta
VERITAS IS RIGHT
“@ndy”… no intelligible responses huh? Can’t really combat “TRUTH” and “FACTS”.
“take1″ you may as well commit suicide because you already basically have.
You’ve lost your sense of identity and that’s exactly why whites are in this shitty position in the first place. Liberal educators have brainwashed you into believing you’re guilty for the colonial actions of your ancestors. They have also pushed the communistic “Equality” concept way too far… as Ian Stuart would put it, “creating a world of sighs”. How appropriate. It’s sooo very obvious that we are not all created equal.
check out this on google images:
worldfamilies.net/migration_map_wfn.gif
If you can’t find it, then search for “DNA map” on google images.
This shows the genetic diversity of our subspecies… which should be preserved.
One gray race would be so boring.
markn pages / fortay,
The IDEA that USING CAPITAL LETTERS makes for more convincing ARGUMENTS is TRULY FASCINATING, if tragically FLAWED.
Tip: Learn to use basic logic. Study some basic political philosophy.
If unsure, ask a grown-up for help.
Oh Fortay, you are what is known in scientific circles as “a total fucking moron”. I think Einstein might have coined that term, but I’ll have to check.
It is a fact that 84.4% of all genetic diversity is found between individuals and 90% between individuals on any given continent. (See here for the reference). Less than 10% of this diversity is found between races (that is all races). To maintain the genetic diversity you seem to crave would mean suppressing and screening individuals, not entire races, from interbreeding.
A way of putting it that a fucktard such as yourself can understand, is that there is more genetic variance between two random people than there are between two individuals from different races. Here is the science.
Or, even simpler, if all of the world was wiped out except for a remote village in Africa at least 84.4% of the world’s genetic diversity would survive (it would possibly be higher though: Africans have a greater genetic diversity (between 5 and 10% than people of other continents). If Melbourne were to survive (fingers crossed), at least 90% would be preserved.
I know you are a moron, so I’ll spell it out: that is the genetic diversity, not the total number of genes. “Race” as you conceive it is a fantasy and a very poor excuse to get shit tattoos.
Don’t you feel embarrassed? You show a map with some squiggly lines and talk of grey people and I nearly squirt beer out of my nose laughing at your attempt at book smarts. Hitler was right about one thing: racists should kill themselves.
ISD is taking 14 black cocks in the arse in hell. This study was peer-reviewed and my findings are based on cold hard facts and irrefutable data I have compiled.
Are you saying there are black people in hell, Vents?
Is it wrong to enjoy interracial pornography more than non-race traitor porn? That is the real question we should be asking.
Another question is why are they apparently still getting ice cream crunchies in Perth when that is my favourite ice cream and you can’t buy them here. THE FUCKING ZOG MACHINE 18 44
ANTI-FA FAG!!!
[Repeat]
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again; Vents has his finger on the pulse of suburbia.
The Crunchie ice-cream/ZOG connection has been talked around the dinner tables of this wide brown land for years, but the chattering classes have been suppressing it because of PC madness. Did you know the Paddle Pop Lion is a Jew? That explains everything that was fought for in the Cronulla uprising and I therefore deem this conversation to be over.
ISD 4 EVA IDT INDT* ROFL BBQ Bicentennial ‘88!
*If Destroyed True, If Not Destroyed True
Estos logis no se cansan de la misma gilada y trasnochada de siempre.
Yo creo que el fantasma de reconocer que fantasean con un viejo muerto que era un depravado asexuado y cobarde los hace repetir las imbecilidades que sostienen.
Nazis cobardes sean de donde sean, los esperamos a la salida de la tribuna verde a ver si la aguantan.
Saludos a todo el mundo antifascista.
you do not seem to be white.
you are probably black?
or of mixed race? white mother nigger father? a mongrel?
only a non-arian can talk like you.
tell us about you.
if you dare.
white pride
Dear Odin,
Thank you for your comment. It’s spelled “Aryan”.
I am single, DTE, GSOH, NS, SD.
I enjoy going out and having fun with my friends. Also romantic vegetarian breakfasts, lunches and dinners, by either sun or moonlight.
Here’s to many more neo-Nazi musicians obtaining their licenses from the Ian Stuart Driving School.
Rahowa!
@ndy.
Can I get a question answered from a Nazi?
Let’s casts our minds back to the Second World War in Eastern Europe. Uncle Adolf had his Einsatzgruppen/Waffen SS/Deutsche Heer going to the odd village or maybe over a thousand more, rounding up the local inhabitants, locking them in a barn, dowsing it all with petrol then setting the whole thing ablaze because the lands of Eastern Europe were populated by the Untermensch. These Slavic ’sub-humans’ had to disappear for the sake of Lebensraum for the ‘Aryan’ Reich Volk and Deutsche Volk. Millions of Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Poles and peoples of other nations died because they were of Slavic origin and in the way.
Now let’s fast forward to 2007. Neo-Nazis in the former Soviet Union and Poland are no longer the ‘Slavic untermensch’ but ‘White Aryan comrades’. Brothers in the cause of saving Mother Europe. Please explain. After all, I’m just a working class lad who had a shit British bog standard comprehensive education designed by ZOG to keep me stupid and pliable.
I know… It’s got something to do with that dirty Jewish lie hasn’t it? I saw it with my own eyes once. My ex-girlfriend was of German descent and her Oma still lived in Darmstadt. We were in a cafe having coffee and cakes and when my ex’s Oma spoke to us she lent forward and spoke quietly so no one else could hear her. When I inquired why she acted that way in public it was explained to me that it was just a little habit she had picked up having lived 12 years of her life under National Socialism. Them dirty Jews! It’s amazing what their lies can do!
…dude, truth and facts: Andy couldn’t even combat a brown paper bag placed over his head. Andy lost his wit when he decided to join the great junkie group called ‘Anarcho’ … It would of been a pleasure to have met the original Andy.
Maybe they feel guilty for the atrocities carried out on ethnic Germans in 1945 by the Communists? Or could it be that the West, having gone to war to save Poland from living under a brutal dictator, walked away and let them die under Communist rule? Why did England go to war? To save Poland was it not?
Could it be that all those Russian soldiers that survived the war yes survived the war that were prisoners in Germany got sent to the Gulag as soon as they returned. AND DIED very slowly in the MILLIONS.
What about the fact that many of Germany’s Eastern front troops were made up of units of Russians, Ukrainians, Byelorussians, Poles and other peoples of Slavic origin?
It’s funny how the Left considers all National Socialists mass murderers or Hitler worshippers. If we apply the same rationale to the Left then they are all Stalinist mass murderers.
http://www . wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/welcome.html
A few questions for Christophe:
[29 in fact, all produced by one "Giuseppe Furioso", generally titled 'My Holocaust Problems', and available at various denialist sites.]
Jim QLD
I know Stalin and Communists killed more people than National Socialism that is not the question I posed.
The question I asked was why in Mein Kampf the Slavs were labelled ’sub-human’ and when war in the East broke out were murdered in their millions (only real pricks deny this and they can write as many books as possible — the truth is that there are still millions of people alive today who are witness to the genocide caused by BOTH sides) simply because they were Slavs. Now in 2007 the same (neo-Nazi) Slavs are considered Aryan brothers (Uncle Adolf would be spinning in his graves… where ever they are).
Can I just add that my beloved England is part of the British Union which also comprises of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. All together we make up the country known as Great Britain and have done since the 1707 Acts of Union.To say that England went to war to protect Poland’s sovereignty is not only wrong but is a discredit to the 100s of 1000s of Welsh, Scottish and Irishmen who thought in WW2. BRITAIN went to war with Nazi Germany in 1939 for the same reasons as she did in WWI (1914-18). She couldn’t afford not to. The same way as we are tied in with American foreign policy now, in the early and middle parts of the 20th century our foreign policy was tied in with that of France. If we would’ve broken our pacts and treaties with the French and stayed out of WWI and 2 the French could have made our trade, Empire and Economy suffer big time. (Click on and download a video entitled ‘Why Britain entered the war’ by Marcus Kiggell it’s quite interesting).
Yes Adolf had a lot help from Slavic peoples such as Croats, Serbs, Slovenians, Bulgarians, Bosnians, Kosavans and Albanians (Muslims in the SS! What were they thinking?) but if you read your military history books the Ost Battalions made up of peoples from the former Soviet Union were of limited size and effectiveness.
Also, why if anyone raises criticism of National Socialism they are considered ‘lefties’? I myself am an English Nationalist. I believe in conservation and promotion of Anglo Saxon culture and a end to the farce which is multiculturalism which is killing the cultural identity of the English people.
In Britain the Scots can celebrate their culture, learn Gaelic and have their own parliament as well as representation in the British parliament. In Wales their Celtic identity is felt and celebrated even stronger, the kids learn to speak Welsh in schools and the road signs are in Welsh and English even though only 21% of Welsh people speak the language.
They also have their own parliament called the Welsh assembly (both parliaments funded by ENGLISH tax payers) and like the Scots still have representation in the British parliament. What do the English get? We get told that our history is all bad, that to celebrate our own culture and identity is tantamount to fascism. We must celebrate everyone else’s culture through the ‘joy’ of multiculturalism. Ask our kids to explain what English culture is and they couldn’t tell you a thing! They’re far too busy wearing baseball caps, munching on McDonalds and talking with West Indian accents (Ali G would be funny if it wasn’t so painfully true). If you can get hold of a copy read The Deculturalisation of the English People by John Lovejoy.
Now some people are going to call me a nasty racist for writing the above. They can not help this, it’s in their programming from school onwards. I believe people of any racial group can live here BUT English culture English Law and English customs and identity must come before the wants of the minorities. I know good people with not one ounce of racial hatred in them who are now supporters of the BNP because they feel ignored by the mainstream political parties too afraid to talk about the issues that concern them due to political correctness. They feel like strangers in the country of their ancestors due to mass uncontrolled immigration from Africa and Eastern Europe as well as the ‘don’t celebrate Christmas too much, it might upset the Muslims’ attitudes that local authorities adopt (here’s a taste). 3 or 4 years ago these people would have dismissed the BNP for what they are now they see them as their only hope.
Lastly I will not bother answering questions set by holocaust deniers, I’ll just treat it with the contempt that it deserves.
I would like to reply to you but it would be rather lengthy and a total waste of time. You refuse to accept any information that has not been cleared by the censor. Just keep your head in the sand and fingers in your ears and all will be just fine.
“she lent forward and spoke quietly so no one else could hear her. When I inquired why she acted that way in public it was explained to me that it was just a little habit she had picked up having lived 12 years of her life under National Socialism. Them dirty Jews! It’s amazing what their lies can do!”
I suspect it was more to do with the fact that people were using the Gestapo to settle old scores with their neighbours. It didn’t pay to be politically incorrect during that time in Germany, as it doesn’t pay today to be politically incorrect.
Christophe,
A “hero” of the English is and will always be perceived to be, Churchill (and Oliver Cromwell)
He, Churchill, apparently once commented,
“that anti-Semitism may be a good starter but it is a bad finisher.”
So England and the US, as confirmed PhiloSemitic European peoples are finishing well. In fact, they are nearly well and truly finished as a people bearing any resemblance to what they were at the heights of their protective love for the Chosen when they warred against other Europeans to save the world from the evils of Goyisch indeference to Jewish ideals.
The English have been emasculated by guilt and their propensity to engage in coprophilic activity of the Kosher kind.
Just because someone says they’re important doesn’t mean you have to roll over and take it the way they want to give it to you.
Dr Inanity says that most of the English appear to be Nutz ! and bewildered by the lack of appreciation they have received in slaying the Anti-Semites.
But did you really expect anything from the world’s most centripetally self centered-ish Princesses ?
http://docstalk.blogspot.com/2007/11/jews-according-to-churchill-new-article.html
“As early as 1930 Churchill realized that the Nazis’ anti-Jewish policies carried the stench of an ancient evil. “Tell your boss from me,” he said to a Hitler acquaintance in the late summer of 1932, as the Nazi Party was on the verge of power, “that anti-Semitism may be a good starter but it is a bad finisher.”
Mate you[']r[e] a joke. Just cause Ian gave you one to[o] many beatings you try and make it like he[']s the coward and not you. Hopefully one day I meet you and kick your scrawny white ass.
If you think we are living in a free liberal society then you haven’t clue what you’re on about. The idea of Political Correctness for example has already been expressed by George Orwell 60 odd years ago in his book “Nineteen Eighty Four”. If you haven’t read it then I suggest researching the term “New Speak” as it mirrors the idea of today’s Political Correctness albeit in a less totalitarian way.
Only people that have their eyes open can unearth the truth. The more you steer yourself away from the fraudulently run media and educate yourself away from the indoctrination of people with self servant agendas, the more truths will become obvious to you. Only your own realization of the truth can melt away the lies fed to you by the corrupt education systems and the mass media. The truth is like a cyanide pill, it will destroy the liberal heart warming safety bubble enjoyed by the herd, and therefore it cannot be spoon fed to anyone with the capacity to understand what the truth really means.
The media is a system designed to keep the HERD entertained whilst the wealthy elite enslave the nations of this world with their dreams of a one world government. Their greed and commitment to this achievement reached new heights with the false flag attack of 9/11 constructed by the wealthy elite to empower George Bush’s administration to remove the civil liberties of the U.S.A. only safeguarded by the American Constitution! A constitution which is all but eradicated and could soon be completely dissolved by the union of Canada, The United States and Mexico which will enable the elite to control the majority the American continent with a new Amero currency. All this has been orchestrated under the banner of the pseudo “War against Terrorism”.
To my understanding, the white race has become the dominant world power because of the origins of its peoples. The Northern Hemisphere brought cold, harsh winters, the people continually faught for survival, the defence of their homelands and their very way of life served only to strengthen them and secure its future. We the white race of today’s world shit on these brave efforts with apathy, pacifism and mediocrity because of a lack of pride, respect and honour in our heritage and in our present lives. All this has been brought about by the corrupt political systems, religious organisations and the divide created by the political belief systems that have no balance in the political spectrum; they are just outmoded moulds too rigid and unmalleable for anyone of free thought and spirit.
The mass media, corrupt education systems and religious organisations have made good use of the Divide and Conquer method to maintain and create power. Social boundaries such as the class divide have served well in keeping the wealthy where they want to be and the working class under the thumb. Pride in working class values is a great concept but in the grand scheme of things it serves only to further enslavement. The ruling class don’t want your children to be educated; they want you to hate people that attempt to better themselves. They want you to struggle at the bottom of the pile amongst each other instead of looking upwards together towards the throne of rule & tyranny.
There is nothing wrong with being proud of your race and your heritage. The majority of the white people in Britain don’t seem to be proud of their heritage. Before you can make a journey anywhere you need to know where the path begins to find the end. Not being proud of your heritage only creates degeneration leading to a lack of pride, honour and respect in yourself and other people around you. Without these precepts you are nothing but a mould of Thatcherism the shape and form of the selfish parasite that has been destroying our nation from within.
Charity Starts at Home so Look After Your Own because No One Respects a Mug!
That’s because B’nai B’rith, and the government, have made a policy that any, white, person who promotes pride in their heritage is labelled a racist - and possibly face court of defamation charges!
Mick.
English.
It’s your language.
Learn it.
OK, Andy, I see you have been showing a little more hostility ever since I have put up my new web page. I didn’t know that “White Pride” offended you so much!
I’ll show some consideration, and remove it for you.
Capisch.
It’s amazing how the massive amount of information I’ve written here has been met with precisely the same kind of unintelligent rhetorical bullshit that both sides of the political spectrum feed off.
For fuck[']s sake please wake up! Pride in your race is only the beginning, it’s not a means to an end. Civilizations have risen and fallen throughout history because of their inability to adapt to their circumstances. Rhetoric helps nobody except the weak minded that need a dogma to latch onto. Like the reign of Christianity in Europe the carrot of salvation is being dangled in front of your noses.
Why kick upwards when it’s much easier to kick downwards at lesser men? Because it’s the quickest and easiest way to dissolve some of your own angst and frustration, to feel righteous and levitate your pedestal to a higher altitude.
Anarchism will not last longer than a fucking week either unless you manage to somehow stop humans from reverting back to the tribal ways of old. The result will be mini[-]pockets of fascist tribes sieg heiling the leader of the group with masses of weak and feeble humans flocking to the strongest and largest tribes to further create a Strength in Numbers struggle.
Because we’re so far removed from nature here in the west we’ll go back to a base level of Darwinism where survival of the fittest on a global scale exists, there is no salvation from a larger group of Misanthropic Cannibalistic Humans because human flesh be all that exists. Unless of course Sainsbury’s finds a way to process it and sell it in a downed aircraft’s fuselage.
A united human race that celebrates differences rather than using them as an opportunity or excuse to undermine will never become a reality. It happens today in white society without the influence of ethnic minorities and it always has happened. Mods would fight Rockers just as today Chavs fight Goths and all that kind of bullshit.
Personally I think the solution is the eradication of the human race and just fucking have done with it.
Mick.
Italian-American.
It’s not your language.
Capisce?
Href,
The reason you may not have received a response is because your diatribe had nothing to do with Ian Stuart, Skrewdriver, The Battle of Waterloo, or much of anything else. Instead, it forms a free-flowing account of your paranoid, misanthropic, political whirled vision.
Anyway:
“Political correctness” is a joke that wasn’t funny the first time round and now only elicits groans;
We live in different societies — you in the UK (I assume), myself in Australia, and others elsewhere. Failing to recognise this fact is possibly symptomatic of a certain degree of self-absorption;
‘Political correctness’ has little to do with Orwell’s work (including 1984), life or politics as such — he was also a libertarian and a socialist;
It’s “self serving” not “self servant”;
“The truth” isn’t some kind of magic pill or bean which melts away ‘liberalism’ (there are many honest liberals);
“The media” is a complex creature, worthy of further analysis — it’s not necessarily the monolithic institution you portray it as being;
The US Constitution, in and of itself, doesn’t guarantee anything (”eternal vigilance” ‘n’ all that);
Your understanding of the origins of the white race reads like a fairy tale, which is probably what accounts for your facile understanding of the contemporary politics of race.
Etcetera.
Andy: “Your understanding of the origins of the white race reads like a fairy tale, which is probably what accounts for your facile understanding of the contemporary politics of race.”
Then, Mr. Moran, why don’t you tell us how the White race developed; and why our physical structure [differs from that] of an African?
Myself and others would be very delighted to hear your answer.
Andy, what I said may not conform to the topic in question (I’d have thought a liberal would have let that slide) but neither have the majority of comments — majority rules ‘n’ all that (apparently)!
Your message is as I expected. As soon as you have something easy to take the piss out of you do so (small yet still an example of kicking downwards). I made a mistake in my usage of a phrase, “self servant” instead of “self serving”. So what? Why highlight it as it still means the same thing; the way I said it is more poignant anyway!
I like that word “elicit”; by logic I arrive at my conclusions. If more people did the same instead of listening to other people’s opinionated offerings then maybe we’d all get somewhere hmm?
If you read my message as a nonconformist of mainstream indoctrination you’d understand that when I spoke about newspeak and political correctness I was referring to the modern form of PCness and it’s likeness to “New Speak”. Not that Orwell wrote about political correctness! Oh he was a socialist and libertarian, really? He was an English socialist and libertarian I think you’ll find! Why tell me something I know without a point or at least a contextual suffix? The juxtaposition of the sentences you sometimes write make your verbatim regurgitation read as though painted by Jackson Pollock.
Maybe the fact that you live in Australia and not this “sewage pipe” of Europe I tend to call England (or for the more PC members reading this “United Kingdom”) your self absorption has reached level 88 where you are now able to disappear up your own arse “can ya tell what it is yet mate?”. Then again I can’t complain as we dumped all our shit on Australian soil years before!
To be paranoid means to never be caught out, sure it takes a lot of energy and constant vigilance but as you said ”eternal vigilance” ‘n’ all that. Being liberal sounds great but the reality is like being raped up the arse by an immigrant after you’ve just gone to prison for putting up the George Cross and offended the Extremist Muslim community that have no right to be in your country in the first place.
If I have facile understanding of the contemporary politics of race then so be it. If living in an 8 million people strong city with its diversity of cultures can’t possibly give me a sound understanding of the contemporary politics of race, then I guess it’s nothing a good olde bit of university education won’t fix!
I feel it my duty to point those of you that do not know of it in the direction of a documentary I watched a few weeks ago. It echoes back to me a lot of things I have already taken to be plausible truth through my own analysis of my experience in this plain existence.
http://zeitgeistmovie.com/
You can watch it from the website or download it via the socialist medium of bit torrents or p2p sharing programs.
Href: “Being liberal sounds great but the reality is like being raped up the arse by an immigrant after you’ve just gone to prison for putting up the George Cross and offended the Extremist Muslim community that have no right to be in your country in the first place.”
That’s what I’ve been trying to get across to Andy all of this time: A multicultural society is not a multicultural society at all.
Href:
By any standard definition, I’m not a ‘liberal’; I’m an anarchist.
First, as for your departure from the ostensible subject of this post, I’m just trying, however vainly, to ensure that threads allude, at least vaguely, to the topic. Or: why bother making generalised remarks about your unhappiness with the state of contemporary race relations in the UK here rather than elsewhere?
Secondly, you ask: Why bother pointing out that the appropriate phrasing is “self serving” not “self servant”? The reasons: Partly because I find it amusing, partly because commenters of your ilk tend to laud the virtues of being English / White while at the same time being sloppy in their own use of the English language (which I also find amusing) and partly because it serves as an example, to illustrate the existence of a number of basic grammatical and spelling errors in your post.
Forget about it.
Thirdly, you wrote:
“If you think we are living in a free liberal society then you haven’t clue what you’re on about. The idea of Political Correctness for example has already been expressed by George Orwell 60 odd years ago in his book “Nineteen Eighty Four”. If you haven’t read it then I suggest researching the term “New Speak” as it mirrors the idea of today’s Political Correctness albeit in a less totalitarian way.”
Not a promising beginning.
Orwell didn’t explicitly refer to ‘PC’, but your claim was that he had expressed this ‘idea’ (Newspeak) in his novel. On a superficial level, the claim has some merit; on a more serious level, it has very little. In contemporary usage the term ‘PC’ (and I suggest researching the origins of the term as a response by US cultural conservatives of the seventies and eighties to newly-emerging discourses on equality) is a cliche. Further, what Orwell’s vision of the totalitarian control of language shares with this notion is a similar reduction in meaning to cliche. In reality — or should I say fiction — Orwell’s presentation was far more sophisticated than this…
In any case, a more appropriate example of Orwell’s critique of (the English) language and its relationship to politics is his 1946 essay ‘Politics and the English Language’.
My purposes are quite different to your own, and I reject the half-witted parochialism evident in your commentary. The superficiality of your political understanding is similarly evident in your crazed notion that “Being liberal sounds great but the reality is like being raped up the arse by an immigrant after you’ve just gone to prison for putting up the George Cross and offended the Extremist Muslim community that have no right to be in your country in the first place”.
Bananas.
“The juxtaposition of the sentences you sometimes write make your verbatim regurgitation read as though painted by Jackson Pollock”, on the other hand, is just painful.
Finally, I must’ve missed “the massive amount of information [you've] written here”, but your sub-Darwinian account of the history of “the white race” is as sound as your grasp of the English language is firm.
So as an anarchist what is the solution to the global problem? Imagine if all of a sudden the oil ran out, you’d have anarchy then on a global scale meaning maximum victory level for your far left comrades.
Then what do you think would happen after societies have fallen and there is no kind of law and order? The parallel opposite because the balance of life is like a simple physics demonstration. When you push the pendulum in one direction it goes back in the other direction.
Your problem is really that you read too much and lavish in the fruits of other people’s work. People that think for themselves don’t need to research the origins of political correctness for example. The fact that putting 2 + 2 together under the circumstances and analysing what’s going on around you is of far more value than any academic study.
You could research into the history of playing the guitar till the cows come home but could you pick one up and play it?
However if you picked up a guitar and had someone teach you classically, learning how to read music etc. Depending on your own natural ability to play it, you’d be playing the guitar very similarly to anyone else that’s been classically trained.
If you picked up the guitar and taught yourself then sure you’d have a style that a lot of classically trained snobs might scoff at, you might not understand how to read music and it might take you longer to become good. At least you’d have walked the path of the original passion which invented classical training.
Yet you’re a person of the classical training ilk. Spoon fed and spoiled scoffing at the people with idiosyncratic guitar playing.
There is no one “solution” to “the global problem”. Instead, there are many ‘problems’ and many ’solutions’, and the definition of both depends very much on one’s perspective and situation. Thus for yourself “Being liberal sounds great but the reality is like being raped up the arse by an immigrant after you’ve just gone to prison for putting up the George Cross and offended the Extremist Muslim community that have no right to be in your country in the first place”.
I don’t happen to agree that ‘being liberal’ mandates being subjected to (virtual) anal rape by an immigrant in prison, but such a statement does suggest, at the very least, that in addition to a soft spot for English nationalist symbols, you’re beset by a number of racial and sexual anxieties. Whether this is the case is immaterial, however, to my point, which is that speaking in the most abstract terms about ‘problems’ and solutions’ is rather useless, especially in the absence of a (shared) political framework. And in terms of political frameworks, you employ a bourgeois definition of ‘anarchy’ and ‘anarchism’, one which confuses the imagined consequences of the classically bourgeois fear of mob rule with anarchist and anarchist-inspired efforts towards constructing societies based on principles of generalised self-management (ones which frequently have their roots, incidentally, in various, principally European labour movements of the mid- to late- nineteenth century).
In the bourgeois imagination, societies “rise” when they expand their dominions (as they must) and “collapse” when the lower orders refuse to acquiesce to their rulers’ demands — as a result of which ‘mere anarchy is loosed upon the world’ (Yeats). Complete nonsense, of course, but of great comfort to bourgeois thumbsuckers such as yourself (or, more likely, your employer/s). As for “anarchy… on a global scale meaning maximum victory level for your far left comrades”, I hate to be the one to burst your bubble but politics isn’t a computer game. Further, life isn’t a simple laboratory physics demonstration, however much you find metaphorical simplicity of this sort attractive (as well as being in stark contradiction to real-life physics).
With regards the “problem” of “oil”, the Midnight Notes collective’s efforts are frequently cited in the literature I read on the political economy of oil (see for example ‘No Blood for Oil: The Political Economy of the War on Iraq’, a talk given by George Caffentzis at ABC No Rio (NYC) on February 18, 2003), but more generally — and obviously — oil reserves will eventually dry up, and new, alternative, renewable energy sources will have to be obtained if production is to continue at anything even remotely resembling current levels.
What this means for the global economy, industry, society and culture is enumerated in a vast range of literature on the subject, but suffice it to say that very large, even radical changes in life, work and production will almost certainly be required. What this means for the dominant economic paradigm and the nature of global capitalism as a world system is difficult to say, but it may be that, together with a wide range of other ecological and social pressures, a collapse of some kind is likely. Its depth, location and longevity is indeterminate, but, as always, it will be the poorest among the masses who will suffer the most, while elites maintain (to be precise, have maintained for them) fortresses of privilege.
You are absolutely correct. In fact, I always blog — naked — from a laptop in a vat full of grapes brought in from the fields by hard-working peasants. How I laugh at their toiling!
On a (slightly) more serious note, that you should denigrate literacy, historical research and scholarship is unsurprising, as it is typical of the reaction of those who claim to offer “mountains of information” only to have it pointed out that they’ve produced a pile of ideological garbage. In terms of your somewhat bizarre analogy with learning to play classical guitar, I really don’t think it’s all that apt. To begin with, as with other instruments, the point of having a ‘classical’ or ‘traditional’ education is to obtain the wherewithal to then transcend this tradition; a practice which is usually encouraged, not stymied, by this process. Further, classical music is dead until it is interpreted. So too, history.
Finally, I love Jimi Hendrix.
And you’re an idiot.
listen i just skipped through all this bull shit, i am a VERY proud english white woman and i will have no one slag off my country, we fought hard to make this country white my family died for this shithole, only in the last 30 years has it become a hell hole, scum bags live everyw[h]ere raping my country they live off our government because they have no skills they cant even speak the effin language half the time[.] send the bastards pa[c]king.
heil ian
14/88
white pride
skingirl_23:
In response to your comments regarding a lack of linguistic ability of members of non-white communities, I would like to point out that your I’s should be in capitals, can’t should contain an apostrophe and you missed out the letter ‘c’ in the word ‘packing’.
On a more abstract note, due to the lack of reproductive organs, it is not possible to rape a country.
I just thought you may like to know.
With all my multicultural love, J.M.
As a real communist. I will say nothing. Oh wait, I just did.
i say fuck all of you white nigger lover losers niggers should be all sent back to africa niggers wont work niggers and spics and all non white races will be the downfall to this country so if your a nigger lover or a nigger fuck you and burn in hell
Ian and skrewdriver were not nor have they ever been cowards they were people who care about the white race you shitheads seig heil
Dear chad / A N F,
I believe you’ll find the correct spelling is “you’re” as in “so if you’re a nigger lover or a nigger fuck you and burn in hell.”
And may I recommend you attend The Ian Stuart Driving School?
Hugs ‘n’ kisses,
@ndy.
hey andy you can go fuck off and die you are a piss poor excuse for a human being hopefully someone will find you hangin from a tree one day and i dont give a flyin fuck you correct my spelling your just a white trash peice of shit
on the other hand andy you sound quite educated do you mind shareing your ideas with me i am willing to listen and maybe learn something i didnt know but dont you think everyone is entitled to his or her opinion?
WHAT THE FUCK!??? GOOD NIGHT WHITE PRIDE????
ARE YOU PART OF THE FUCKING ISLAMIFICATION OF BRITAIN[????]
YOU MAKE ME FEEL SICK.
THE MOST INFLUEN[T]IAL MAN OF THE WHITE RACE DIED AND YOU SLAG HIM AND THE FAR RIGHT OFF. “BONEHEAD” EXCUSE ME BUT WHEN CIVIL WAR BREAKS OUT I WILL NOT BE FIGHTING FOR YOU.
WHITE PRIDE WORLD WIDE[!!!!]
HEIL!!!!
IM FAR RIGHT WITH ACTION AND SO ARE MY BROTHERS. WE WILL RESTORE THIS COUNTRY TO GLORY AND ITS EMPIRE. YOU WILL ONE DAY BE BEGGING FOR OUR MERCY[!!!!]
I feel inclined to express my opinions and even wish to further the attacks against Anarcho-Andy, but frankly it is a waste of time and effort. WHY? He lacks the inherent ability to comprehend what it is like to be one of the few Europeans in the world. Let’s put the inherently weak on the list of endangered species, then we’ll see how they feel. The fact is that, some people are born with a greater capacity to lead in a given social structure and others with less capacity do the dirty work. The anarchist attempt at overthrowing authoritative figures is just the genetically inferior man[']s attempt at making all equal who are not equal. Nature has made us this way and Andy…you can’t change that. The white flame will never die…nice try.
[O]h, yes, and I do expect some immature reply like…”learn English” or “the doctor will see you now”…among other possible forms of pointless jargon.
You might want to find something more productive to spend your time on instead of fighting for a worthless and godless idea like Anarchy. Besides, if there were true anarchy, you would be the target, not us. Open your [e]yes blind man.
Good day chap!!!
I once made a blue flame. It didn’t die; I ran out of fart.
White supremacists never seem to able to explain how the “inherently weak” and less capable are able to drag white people down so effectively and thoroughly. They usually try talk about “race traitors”, but are unable to explain how race then explains social relations, when the majority of white people think Nazis are a bit nutty and only fit to be on the business end of Indiana Jones’ whip.
I stand humbled by the white man’s science.
Andy,
Every time I have felt in need of light relief for some time now I come in past here to watch you play with the pond life.
I am endlessly amused by their antics and attempts to articulate what little goes on between their ears but fear that your attempts to educate them as to spelling, punctuation and the like will fall on fallow ground although I commend you for trying.
For myself on the very few occasions I come across them now I still find that a swift forehead to the bridge of the nose will meet with a more immediate response and have them properly cowering like the dogs they are.
Could you perhaps list a selection of Norse Gods names for them as I am getting tired of them all choosing Odin or Thor as their screen names, there were a plethora of these types and some variety would be easier on the eye.
Do you think any of them realise that their hero I.S.D. had many very close physical relationships with other male boneheads?
Garioch,
I’ll see what I can do. Speaking of Lonely Dudes:
Lolz.
Hail Andhrímnir!
“find it hard to get a girlfriend.”
As has been seen many times many of them are not trying too hard to look for a girlfriend and like all that male bonding stuff much more.
“boots and leather vests”
As that line may well illustrate.
25 is ok for a city the size of Sydney, keep that amount about as pets and examples for the children as to what not to aspire to.
wanker talking shit i was there we kicked in loads of reds
Yes of course you were. I was there too, and stepping over the bodies of countless dead Reds, I took the following footage of Skrewdriver live on stage:
The hate that the right wingers show is just a reflection of their inability to adapt to any society.
It is such a shame they have small willies and no money with few prospects, its only natural that the stupid and ugly should turn their life’s frustrations onto others.
Get a life you boneheads ! stop being angry and hateful towards your fellow human being.
The English BNP leader has one eye and I know that he must have felt very small down the pub or at the schoolyard when that beautiful blonde crossed his path and rejected him (or completely dismissed him as even existing), the only way he got any recognition in this life is by drumming up hatred towards others from other like minded fools.
I think truly enough is enough. Go back and re-evaluate your life and stop being paranoid! Nationalism destroys nations with millions killed. Don’t be fooled into these thug’s scheme, they have an inferiority complex but are in denial.
Just wish you would leave the man (i.s.d) to rest in peace,,,the truth is that whichever way we go(left/right/middle of the road)we are all immoral and two faced.we are all hypocritEs and fools.life works its own way,so do what you do but enjoy it……
I’m white and proud - but my boyfriend is black and proud.
Just wonderin’ why all boneheads are ugly - perhaps that is a prerequisite - and losers without any hope? Shouldn’t they be rounded up like a gaggle of idiots, and used for experimentation?
Why can’t they join Ian Arsehole at his driving school?
I think you may be being unfair on idiots JC. And I think the Violent Storm Driving School has taken the Skrewydriver’s place at the wheel. Who knows? They’re a weird mob, these melanin-deficient bozos. A therapist and some time spent in The Angry Corner is my suggestion.
my ancestors fought a war in order to prevent the likes of the uglies from gaining power. with a collective IQ of 0 it’s no wonder that the uglies really believe that white people are all zero IQers…?
most of the uglies have no life, they are life’s disposable knickers - they are marginalised in society - they are not acceptable and neither are they influential. they just amuse themselves as only they know how. you r right andy… i know many likeable idiots - that was a bit unfair.
perhaps they provide a good basis for the abortion argument? just a suggestion
Yeah. It’s kinda ironic JC. On the one hand these boneheads espouse White supremacy; on the other, they assume that all Whites are as stoopid as they are. “White power? Give ‘em a golden shower!” as they say in the classics. And yeah: an excellent argument for retrospective abortions these malformed humans are.
Andy, what is your position on those who see multiculturalism as a negative thing in their communities?
Also, white people who want an all white community without the need of violence, and hate?
Jeremy the Myth:
I feel sorry for those who believe that the existence of a number of different cultures within the one society is, in principle, a “negative thing”. Beyond that, I think that such attitudes often reflect a deeper-seated xenophobia: a fear and/or hatred of those deemed foreign. To the extent this phobia is one based upon ignorance, I think it’s possible to overcome it through education: that is, the honest attempt to enter into a dialogue with and in order to understand the Other (and through doing so one’s Self).
I also think that ‘multiculturalism’ is a term often used where ‘multinationalism’ would be more appropriate, as ‘culture’ is, in this context, almost invariably associated with particular nations or peoples rather than cultures as such. The literal meaning of ‘culture’ is ‘way of life’. As such, societies, both contemporary and historical, are almost always composed of different cultures.
In the Australian context, what is almost always absent a discussion of or an attack upon the concept and practice of ‘multiculturalism’ is the fact that, at least insofar as Government policy is concerned, ‘muliculturalism’ rests, quite consciously and deliberately, upon an acceptance of broader, more fundamental (that is, transcendent) values. That is, obedience to the law, respect for others, and so on and so forth.
In other words, ‘multiculturalism’ exists and finds it’s most widespread expression through a liberal, democratic framework. As an anarchist, I don’t recognise the legitimacy of this framework, but I remain, nevertheless, broadly supportive of some such notion as ‘multculturalism’; certainly, I find most objections to it emanating from the right to be boring and stupid.
As for your second question, I’m not sure I understand it. Thus, while I’m happy to acknowledge the existence of some small number of whites who wish to live in an all-white community, I think their reasons for doing so are essentially bankrupt. Which is to say, incoherent and/or racist. As such, I think this perspective to be equally boring and stupid as most if not all declarations of opposition to multiculturalism.
I dunno. If a whitefella really wants to live in an all-white society, I think they should probably marry someone from Iceland, and go live there.
OK, but why demonise those who don’t wish for Australia to be multicultural. A lot of people in my community are weary of the Islamic presence in Australia. They see it as an evasion enforced upon them.
“OK, but why demonise those who don’t wish for Australia to be multicultural.”
For example?
“A lot of people in my community are weary of the Islamic presence in Australia.”
Uh-huh. Well, that’s unfortunate, I guess. But I tend to think that the Islamic presence in Australia, and its significance, is massively exaggerated. Australia has a population of roughly 21,250,000 people, approximately 350,000 of whom are classified as being Muslim. In other words, non-Muslim Australians account for approximately 98% of the total population, and massively outnumber the less than 2% of the population who are both Australian and Muslim. Beyond this, your claim is difficult to examine, as I believe it would be necessary to examine a) exactly who the people in your community are and b) the reasons they have for being “weary” of Muslims in Australia before I could respond more comprehensively. In the meantime, and in this context, it’s worthwhile noting that Australians are able to practice freedom of religion. In other words, even if some or even a “lot” of people in your community find Islam in some way objectionable, in practicing their religion Muslims are enacting their rights under Australian and international law, just as Christians and other religious practitioners do (and in general without being subject to condemnation or suspicion for so doing).
“They see it as an evasion enforced upon them.”
I assume that what you mean is that ‘a lot of people in my community are hostile towards Islam because they believe that the presence of Muslims in it is the result of an unjust imposition’.
A few points.
First, you don’t speak for anyone other than yourself.
Secondly, even if it’s true that a lot of people perceive something to be the case, this does not mean it’s correct.
Thirdly, unless the presence of Muslims in your community is somehow preventing those who complain of their existence from exercising their own ‘rights’, whatever hostility they express is more likely to be the result of religious (or possibly cultural) intolerance.
Fourthly, it may be worthwhile considering that “a lot” of Muslims in your community are weary of religious bigots trying to make them feel inferior simply for practicing their religion.
Finally, I wonder if your objection to ‘multiculturalism’ is in fact an objection to ‘Islam’.
Do you support the idea of freedom of religion and of culture, or not?
If someone expressed weariness with your presence in Australia, would they be entitled to seek to remove you from it? If not, why not?
What, exactly, do you want?
australians no history only what they grab from britian.andy your articulate intelligent like to mock other peoples opinions.but hey we curretnly live in a free world so shut up let people speak there mind,if you feel so strongly about the white pride here in the uk come and pat a visit we have a free speakers corner i,d love to see you there.talking of a racist society hows the indigenious peoples of australia doing are they still down trodden alcoholics carrying syphillis,that your much loved fore fasthers gave to them,go and fight their corner oh you already have your such a saint intervering in places were you should,nt you will get yourself into deep water one day and you,ll be proper fucked.hows your surf guys doing still embracing your lebenese friends,go and sort them out oh andy your such a wonderful saintly guy don,t you have fuck all else to do only sit here and try and be the comic i bet you laugh at all your best jokes don,t you,your amasing mother andy saviour of the?you don,t actually know who the fuck you are do you?some intellectual bet your a shit house when it comes to a row,big key board warrior.carry on.oh yes i have grammitcal errors and spelling but who really gives a shit you get my message keep posting.see you soon.
deano,its not my fault youre cricket teams shit.
tldr
[...] teste di cazzo [...] un solo grido: good night left side!!!!!!
you r shit,only a little piece of red shit like you could believe in these … ian stuart lives in our hearts with our dux.
dux nobis est,sieg heil,red shit
Meanie!
The abuse of Skrewdriver as a band is stupid.
I understand the people who insult Ian Stuart, right or wrong, but hey, let’s face it, his band DID make some decent music. Saying that the band were pathetic as mentioned above is a hopeless argument, because of the subjectivity of music. I’m not a racist, but I love listening to Skrewdriver. It’s good music, and even if you don’t support it, isn’t it interesting to see other people’s viewpoints on this issue you all seem so passionate about?
Skrewdriver’s music does show an interesting and relevant viewpoint, however extreme, and to rip it off and attempt to shut down those who like it just because of the singer’s beliefs is ridiculous.
Oi Boy,
Obviously, whether or not Skrewdiver made good music is a matter of taste. So too, to some extent, is their politics (aside from the first few singles and first album, which were relatively ‘apolitical’). Neo-Nazis love ‘em, and since Ian’s death have organised annual gigs to commemorate his wrapping himself ’round a tree. I don’t find racism or fascism especially interesting in the sense you use the term; rather, it’s fucking daft and — yes — pathetic. I’ve got no idea what you mean when you refer to ‘ripping it off’, but shutting down groups like B&H and the Hammerskins is I think a good thing because they’re neo-Nazi scum.
PS.
IAN STUART,R.I.P BROTHER YOU DID US PROUD,YOU ANTIFA WOG LOVERS ARE NOTHING BUT BULLSHITTERS,YOU SHOULD ALL BE LINED UP AND FUCKIN SHOT.
YOU’RE A BIG SILLY SID.
just been reading through this bullshit again and realised that you are in australia.
that would be why your so gobby,being thousands of miles away.
nothing silly about me,your the silly one who thinks multiculturism is a good idea.
you try living in england surrounded by immigrant paedo/rapist/muggers,muslim terrorists and blacks stabbing each other on a daily basis.
WAKE UP,YOUR NOT IN COLLEGE ANYMORE TROTSKY,BET YOU WEAR A CHE T-SHIRT,HE WAS A TERRORIST ASWELL.
PUBLIC ENEMY ARE RACIST,FEAR OF A BLACK PLANET IS MUSIC FOR BLACK YOUTH,IF YOUR WHITE THEY WOULDNT PISS ON YOU IF YOU WERE ON FIRE.
EVERY SINGLE RACE ON EARTH CANT STAND THE SIGHT OF EACH OTHER SO WHY MIX THEM?
Sid you’re so scared aint you? You wouldn’t piss on anyone because it’s dribbling down your leg all the time and you’ve got none left you pathetic coward.
Grow up and attempt to stop being such a snivelling wimp. Would you “try living in England”: yeah ‘cos it’s like really really frightening there ain’t it?
Can’t go out your door can you? Not if you’re as soft as you are and loud noises and people of a different skin tone scare you that much.
England the new most dangerous location on the earth (if you’re a 12 year old half wit who checks under his bed every night for monsters).
Are you really not embarrassed coming across as such a big girl’s blouse? Have you checked to make sure there’s something between your legs other than urine stains?
Can you write some more as I like something to keep me amused?
sid?
Harden the fuck up!
big words from little girls,you really are clueless commi scum arent ya!
my bollocks are bigger than your heads.did you take offence to what i said?or is it that the truth scares you.
and what is this about england being a big scary place,im not scared of anyone,especially arseholes like you two.
garioch.are you a homo sexual,did i offend your homo boyfriend @ndy p@ndy?
big girls commi blouses,dont bother replying,ive said all i can be bothered with on this queers forum.
14/88
i.s.d rip
one more thing i forgot gayrioch,che guevara IS DEAD,and he was nothing but a pathetic coward anyway,anyone can shoot a gun,even you,or maybe not youd probably shoot yourself in the foot.
and out of interest i watched that video of what looked like chopper reid.what was the point in showing me that?is he your mate?is he coming after me?no he isnt,and hed tell you two shirt lifters to HARDEN UP.like you do every night to each other!
goodbye girls.
14/88
wher bis then du rotes zwein? du kens unser ian ja kar nicht. such mal eine arbeit du drek sou.hail ian steuart donalsen fur immer und ewig 88
we will never 4 ghet jou WHITE BROHTER. jou are the diamand in the dust.HAIL IAN STEUART DONALSON
It takes a great person to get a idea
But don’t go public it’ll ruin the plan
Because no matter how clever and original you are
You’re only as good as your fans
Each man kills the thing he loves
The fisherman caught in his own net
It’s frightening that you deserve
The audience that you get
What - that’s it Sid? Some incoherent mumbling about Che - someone I have no particular time for but certainly about as far from being a coward as it’s possible to be (and I have no idea what that had to do with anything) - and something about guns, which I seem to remember you being rather keen on a few posts ago as long as people were lined up and unarmed which would be about right for your ilk.
Magnificent, I am in awe of your devastating wit. Pray I don’t ever run into you in England as I’ll slap you stupid ya wee child. I’ll let you in on a secret here. I have no idea what Andy’s sexuality is but I do know what Mr. Donaldson’s was and he swung both ways which is a pity for you as you obviously missed the chance of getting all moist and frotting with your hero now that he smells even worse than he did while alive.
Oh and the (I hope) drunk and writing challenged John you can’t even get your bisexual hero’s name right. For the love of God toughen up you’re an embarrassment to the human race.
Wow, can’t type in English or Deutsch.
Bilingual FAIL.
im praying alright.im shitting myself that a wimpy commi twat like you is threatening me.why dont you come over and put your money where your BIG mouth is.
your wrightings on waterloo is laughable.you havent put halve the truth up you pricks.
and your a lying twat for putting up ian stuart as bisexual.
Aryans will always come out on top,and your kind cant punch your way out of wet paper bags.
so toughen up girls.
You make a very interesting case sid. Next time, get Mum or Dad to help with the spelling.
OHMYGOD IT’S WIGAN MIKE!
Sid where would I be coming over to? I could just drive down if you were in Englandershire where they seem to breed many of you.
You can’t handle your hero being into a bit of man love? Why do you think he was such a big mate of Mr. Crane?
If that disturbs you God help your fragile psyche if you ever have a good look at the rest of your Aryan leaders.
What is it that you normally come out on top of by the way? Or rather which man is it you normally come out on top of?
what are you on?
where would the world be without my inventions you twat.
what have other races done in this world?
the most intelligent minds in the history of the human race were mine!
thats a good shot of wigan mike by the way,i secretly masturbate over it!
Sid that being the case (and it is of course obvious and quite hysterical nonsense to anyone who took even the briefest look at historical fact rather than very bad RAC album covers) where on earth did it all go so horribly wrong with you?
Have you personally invented anything other than a cunning device to bypass all know spell checkers?
The last line is the first thing you have posted thus far I can actually believe.
@NDY & IS SILLY MATE,I think you two must be fags as your always talking about them.I can see you two now one with pink hair & che T shirt,The other with dreadlocks hahahaha wanting to be a nigger just like the silly twat out of UB 40.When the time come red lefty twats will be strung up from the nearest lampost.I would love to meet next time im smashing the reds. BYE BYE DICK HEAD. SIEG=HEIL. PS 88 SID.
Watty I was a skinhead before you were what should have been a wankstain on your father’s unwashed underpants, remain one and will be one after you have forgotten all about it and have reverted to some jelled and greased Ronaldo like creation as all of your ilk tend to do.
I’ll be in Hamburg in a couple of months, if you want to try your hand then feel free to drop me a line and I’ll give you directions so you can find a host of red and anarchist skinheads you can attempt to beat up.
I shall also provide the directions to the nearest casualty unit for you.
Wow! You would be beat death! Here in good ol USA! Andy is it? Never heard of you! But we sure know who Ian Stuart and Skrewdriver is! Clowns like you are laughed at here in the States! I am certain you never ever ever said a word to a real skin! Because if you even looked at me wrong I would choke you out or kick u to sleep! USMCS Skins forever!
Wow, Look at all the sites dedicated to Ian Stuart and Skrewdriver! That seems to have a lasting effect! And how many our dedicated to this site? Ha ha ha! Ian has the last laugh!
Jona,
I’ve spoken to skinheads (real skinheads like Garioch) on many occasions. I generally don’t speak to boneheads however, which is what you’re referring to, although they’re free to comment on my blog. I’m not sure what purpose you think is served by making silly claims, but Skrewdriver fans are a sorry lot, whether in Australia or the United States.
Regarding sites dedicated to Ian Stuart and Skrewdriver, it’s true that there are a number of them. On the other hand, this blog entry is one of the most popular; more popular, according to Google, than all but one or two.
Btw, Ian’s not laughing. He’s dead.
me namo es andio und I like writing much words to make me seem smart. I am so communistic that my shit comes out red!
If Ian weren’t six feet underground, I’m sure he’d be groaning too. And the Spanish is ‘Mi nombre es…’.
andy and garioch what a pair of wankers to say the least.are they even from these great shores if so invite them to our next meet in london but alas they will not show just like the 27th of july the only red i saw was the little wanker george galloway saw lots of nationlists who i was meeting of the brighton line but hey mighty antifa were was you sat in your room thinking up stories to send to andy fair play your good at the keyboard stuff are,nt you.andy fuck cricket its shit football for me so if ya wanna take alook at us we are really not hard to find lets try one with equal numbers see how far you get not lone nationlist like sid got and others i can mention. britian is awake europe is awake the time of the red is numbered your a spent force all fat piss heads sitting on your keyboards.dreaming of the good old days when you got your heads caved in in waterloo how dare you say you turned the nationalists over.fucking idiot.deano88
hi,
you are all douche bags… like honestly, you say ian fucking stuart was an asshole (BONEHEAD) fuck, you are just as fucking bad, making a fucking website to fucking hate him!
get your fucking heads out of your fucking asses!
ian stuart was a fucking hero! he was the fucking king of the skins.
i bet you wouldnt talk sucg [sic] shit if he were alive, huh!
you fucking [sexy] niggers and fucking [sexy] jews and you fucking [sexy] commies fuck you all to fucking hell.
racism will always be there, so why try to fucking prevent it. you are just as bad, making a fucking hate website…
im a 15 year old fucking girl, and you peices [sic] of filth disgust me!
ian stuart would kick your fucking asses to fucking hell and back, but noooooooooooo, hes fucking dead, so what the fuck! you are a bunch of pussies hating a fucking dead man!!!
FUCK YOU
ian fucking stuart fucking donaldson is fucking amazing. ♥
dont talk shit, you fucking [sexy] niggers, go fucking worship your fucking 50cent fucking [sexy] nigger rapper and that bullshit!
F♥U♥C♥K♥Y♥O♥U♥!
well said ashlee couldn[']t have put it better and your [sic] only fifteen shown [sic] the intelctual [sic] aussie aresehole [sic] something there girl 14/88 hutt hutt hutt
Uh-oh: looks like this thread is becoming a home-away-from-home for melanin-deficient, grammatically challenged racist Little Englanders.
deano: It’s spelled nationalist — with an ‘a’. Also ‘Britain’; not ‘britian’. Please also consult a parent or other adult regarding the distinction between the terms ‘your’ and ‘you’re’. Thus: “Your brain hurts because you’re a drongo”. Finally, a clue regarding the location of the author:
ashlee♥: “making a fucking website to fucking hate him”? Um, no actually, this is one post on a blog with well over 1,200. Also, I don’t hate Ian, he’s dead. His fans, and their appreciation of his muzak and nutty neo-Nazi beliefs, I simply find pathetic, and often amusing, such as when the Übermenschen struggle with basic grammar and spelling.
Fiddy cen’? Nah: Cypress Hill.
It’s all about Public Enemy and Dead Prez
Revolutionary but Gangsta
oh andy fuck off and shag an abo your a prat and nobody with a sad little life now fuck off.
It’s spelled “you’re”.
well @ndy, i hope you die?
its stupid. if you make a blog about a dead man wheres the fun in that? you sit at home, all alone jerking off to your nigger shit, and writing hate blogs, kinda pathetic. geeze. if anyone deserves a bullet down there [sic] throat, it is indeed you.♥
how old are you? i didn’t put “sexy” in front of nigger or jew, but you go and edit it in…*[coffHOMOsaresexycoff]*
go die…♥
lots of loves =]
Ashlee even when alive fatty Ian wouldn’t leave the confines of his house without one of his steroid abusing catamites to walk him about and ensure nobody took a swing at him. I would have slapped him stupid without breaking sweat. “The king of the skins”: He was a sad old tart with a terrible taste in ‘music’ and no class in his dress, a fat old div with very bad tattoos, couldn’t keep his boyfriends and not that good on the personal hygiene front. Just be glad he died before you could get to know him as he really did smell bad.
Jona, you obviously come from the U.S. hinterland. Playing banjos and enjoying the close company of your relatives would be your main occupations? Don’t come to N.Y. or anywhere touched by civilisation will you, the last Nazi skins seen there are still running although even that was done in a fairly uncoordinated manner. One bit of seagull spotting and the next thing they were running for their lives down 8th Street perused by a cast of 4… there were about 10 of them so I guess it wasn’t really a fair fight.
I’ll let you in on a little secret ashlee♥: we all die.
I repeat: “this is one post on a blog with well over 1,200. Also, I don’t hate Ian, he’s dead. His fans, and their appreciation of his muzak and nutty neo-Nazi beliefs, I simply find pathetic, and often amusing, such as when the Übermenschen struggle with basic grammar and spelling.” Further, the post does not simply concern Ian, but The Battle of Waterloo, September 12th, 1992. In fact, this is what the bulk of the post consists of. Finally, your pathetic phantasies involving masturbation, African-Americans and guns hardly reinforce your status as a member of the Master Race; rather, you read like a precocious teenager with severe racial and sexual anxieties.
Maybe one day you’ll grow up. Who knows?
i would rather be a precocious teenager than a [sic] old man (or how ever the fuck old you are)
you deserve too [sic] be fillayed [sic] and have thinners thrown on you. i AM a member of the master race, and you obviously are not. ok, so ian smelt, doesn’t make his music bad. he was a great musician, and, just like you, he stood up for what he belived [sic] in. like, whats your deal, you gotta go edit in the word SEXY into all my comments. do you have no life. you just sit at your computer all day writing about a dead man, and events that have been and gone, like, so old i wasn’t even born, why not just let it be. you obviously have no social life, so you go voice your opinions on the internet. in a way you are worse than ian was. you deserve your throat slashed. you are pathetic. just because ian stood up for what HE and millions (maybe just a few thousand) people belived [sic] in. you are in fact pathetic. fucking australians. we are better than you in rugby too, by the way.. how about you go voice your opinion to some of the [bone]heads that i know. you wouldn’t be standing for a loooooooong time. fluffy hugs and kisses, xo♥
ps.. i wonder what you’re gonna edit into my comment this time?
i fucken agree with ashlee you bunch of fucking twats.
who are you to say ian stuart smelt bad..huh?
you no [sic] theres a difference between FAT and STOCKY..you fucking homo..
and F.Y.I his tattoos are pretty fucking sweet..just because you cant sit around and go through pain to show your commitment for your race..=]
..you realy [sic] do deserve to die..
well love an leave ya..
cheerio..
x
Great.
Two giggling schoolgirls from Kiwi.
ashlee♥, I’m truly touched by your concern for my social life, health and well-being. But I’ll try and avoid being filleted, having thinners thrown on me or my throat slashed if it’s all the same to you. Still, when I need some advice on which under-age events in Christchurch to attend, I’ll be sure to seek your opinion. It may also interest you to know that there are something like 100,000,000 bloggers in the world: have you considered setting up a lonely ♥s advice line for bloggers when you leave school? There’s certainly a large enough market for it eh?
As for rugby, sorry, I’m not a fan: it’s main market is in New South Wales and Queensland. In all the other states — South Australia, Tasmania, Victoria and Western Australia — Aussies Rules is vastly more popular. I live in Melbourne, Victoria, and barrack for the world’s greatest football club: Collingwood Magpies. I hope to see them beat St Kilda on Saturday night. As for the All Blacks, you do realise they’re not All White, right?
Finally, don’t pother posting again: you won’t be published. Instead, stick to study. I’d suggest History, as it’s obviously not a strong point.
Cheers,
@ndy.
Haha is this is the best the “master” race can muster up in terms of argumentative ability? Good Night White Pride
“HE and millions (maybe just a few thousand) people belived [sic] in.”
Magnificent! Comedy gold, reduced from millions to a slack handful within a single sentence! He was a terrible musician, he did a couple of semi decent thuggish songs at the start of his ‘career’ and then drifted off into some of the worst cod metal nonsense you can imagine occasionally abusing some folk music or rockabilly. It was desperately bad which is one of the reasons it sold so badly much to his distress.
I would be happy to speak to any of the boneheads you know, in my younger days watching them attempt to work out if I was insulting them was one of my main recreational pursuits, that and battering the idiots senseless if they figured it out correctly.
“who are you to say ian stuart smelt bad..huh?”
Someone who met the fat twat which I doubt you ever had the dubious pleasure of doing. I also have considerably more ink than fatty Ian had but mine has been done by artists rather than ham fisted goons recently released from the Scrubs.
fcknggzbtchs
in a way, that andy guy makes me sick! right to my stomach. you talk about waterloo, WHY? if you hate “neo-nazis” so much whats the point of going???
you say there was a bonehead that was whimpering away from you and shit, but you dont say who you were whimpering from. and thats just you lieing about yourself. theres no point. you make me sick. ian stuart is a dead man. you CAN say that he was fat. ugly, smelly and had shit tattoos, because hes dead and there is no threat. none, because you know he wont be able to do shit about it. you are the true coward, saying this on the internet. have you said anything like this to a bonehead? i bet you havent. you are as the ashlee one said, just as bad as he is. you dedicating so much of your time to write hundreds of blogs in his and the bonereads name. it is down right pathetic. you sit there writing blogs about how much you hate ian and boneheads. the only thing is, is that its on the internet. be a man and show your face [off] the internet then. you are a coward, my friend.
14/88 RAHOWA HUTT HUTT HUTT!
[to add to the last comment]
along with that, garioch, of course he left the house with the steriod abusers. he was wanted dead by many. do you see 50 cent or the what you like to call “GANGSTA” rappers leave their house without a swarm of body gaurds?
whitepridewoman,
i’m quoting from a book!
whitepridewoman, i’ll publically deny both ISD and white nationalism as being a complete load of shite if you provide me with the podium, stage and sound system and i’ll bring the microphone and the crowd. Honestly it’s a wonder people like yourselves that suffer such severe lack of mental capacity can even string a sentence together. Do you deny that the oldest found human remains are of African heritage? oh wait, ZOG planted it there didn’t they…
whitepridewoman please feel free to pick out any living Neanderthal for me to heap abuse on, had you read any of this you would have noticed I have no aversion to that. I had no aversion to it when the fat clown was alive and to his fat gormless face on one memorable occasion.
The only reason I keep posting on this thread is to keep your fellow travellers answering so that any impressionable young minds can see for themselves your lack of ability in tasks as basic as reading, comprehending basic arguments, spelling and logic.
All I have to do is keep gibbering idiots such as yourself (who didn’t even understand it was an excerpt from a book and that people might want to turn up there in order to oppose them both explicitly stated) answering and showing yourselves up and anyone passing through with an I.Q. above that of a carrot will look, sigh and wonder how any of you have the brass balls to claim to be proud of anything.
Carry on.
Seriously, WP people need to think strongly about their education policies. Every time one of them writes something, it reads like a 5 year old. Wouldn’t the Master Race need to demonstrate some sort of educational standards?
Luke: Shoulda read it BEFORE I made corrections! (Some were retained for illustrative purposes.)
Yikes, this place is a war zone! Boneheads fighting skinheads and punks over whether Ian Stuart Donaldson was right or not.
Anyway, great article. I read it a few months ago and it is pretty interesting.
More a battle of wits but unfortunately for them life has left them unarmed.
Ha! Indeed, Garioch!
the oldest found human remains were found in africa,and that proves what?
it proves fuck all really,were those human remains black?probably.
but its still a fact that the white race is the master race,a race that invented the most important of inventions in our lifetime.
its a fact that without science we would be nowhere,and what colour are the most significant scientists in history?
andy,your a homosexual,and so are most of your friends,you all talk shit and couldnt knock the skin off a rice puddin.
silly old sid…
what have you invented lately ya wanker?
well andy you tosser,ive invented a way of speaking to my right wing cousin in oz,who knows of you and says you and your mates are nothing but sissys,dreamers,abbo shaggers he says.
your day will come.
Sissys, dreamers and abbo shaggers eh?
You forgot “fags” (Chunga the punk), “gooknigger scum” (Mark Bastard the IT expert), “top guys” (Doug Smith the skinhead), “liars, hypocrites and trash” (Dion ‘from a Jewish family of Holocaust survivors’).
It’s a fair cop.
Viking soldier stands by the ocean
Lust for death his burning ambition
Killing time a blood lust occasion
Brand new form of socialization
Live for the moment
Live ’til there’s nothing left
Live indestructible
New philosophy, new order on earth
Order on earth
British Empire’s convict labour
Minor crime sent to Australia
Kill the blacks, inferior race
Killing time take over the place
Live for the moment
Live ’til there’s nothing left
Live indestructible
New philosophy, new order on earth
British soldier stands on the beachhead
Exocet and 35 more dead
Are they going to die for the nation
Or the multi national corporation
Live for the moment
Live ’til there’s nothing left
Live indestructible
New philosophy, new order on earth
Order on earth
Sid, your knowledge of history, science, mathematics and engineering is so amazingly deficient it’s fucking laughable that you could possibly think of yourself as an example of a “Master Race”. Go have a look at where the most highly cited work in the Sciences and Engineering comes from. Check out where people applying to the US Patent Office for patents come from. Anyone with a functional neuron would come to the conclusion that in no way do Europeans hold any monopoly on intelligence or creativity. You couldn’t even use your computer without Indo-Arabic mathematics.
Fucking hell! This is out of control!
I know this article is anti-ISD which I think is rather stupid firstly (in opposition) because Ian was genuinely a great bloke who proudly fought for the preservation of our race and had a strong perception like many others such as myself. @ndy really needs to consider the aspects of the world and its current condition which equals to total shit.
@ndy, mate, you are a disgrace to the White race if you really accept the Muslims, niggers, gooks and so forth coming into our country and living in ‘harmony’ at other people’s expense by bludging and fucking popping out disgusting kids (only furthermore increasing non-White population) many times whilst White people work their arses off and don’t get as much recognition as non-White immigrants! Fuck that!
I am a true and proud White Australian teenage girl who is ready for combat for taking out anyone who disrespects my nation.
Think about the Lebanese, they violate our people and have a large amount of so called ‘Wog pride’ which has a negative impact upon the rest of the nation when it is all observed morally and logically. Now that’s just one minor example with no exaggeration utilised.
WAKE UP!!! Australia shall not evolve into a bigger dump of immigrants.
Now moving on from that aspect of my argument, I will like to comment on most of the people here that are pro-White. You have put a shame to the name of the White race aka Master Race by implementing your mind to compose your comments. You have not sustained your argument properly enough to be deemed above a wannabe Nazi-skinhead/White Nationalist and so forth which may also depict you as superior as a thick 10 year old. Some of you haven’t employed simple capitalisation at the start of sentences or on people’s names (proper nouns) or appropriate punctuation for crying out loud!
You have really ashamed me. You give us real White Nationalists a bad name. Before you start replying to more posts in your future endeavors, I hope you really consider this post hard as a guide and step to grow a fucking brain!!!
Now all you left wingers and Antifa scum etc. please shut your mouth, your Zionist infested ideologies should start becoming rejected by masses of the world.
Racial equality!!! Whopppeeeeeeeeeeee! As if! That’s never going to cross my mind in order for utilisation even once.
If my race declines out of existence, you are the scum that would have caused this insane and truly evil predicament. No thanks, forever your ideals shall be rejected thus I and my comrades shall live a noble and straight thinking way of life.
Emily:
Ian was a neo-Nazi. Presumably, you think neo-Nazis are tops. Obviously, I don’t.
Equally obviously, I don’t agree that the presence of Muslims, blacks or people of Asian descent within the claimed boundaries of the Australian nation-state is particularly objectionable, any more than I do the presence of peoples of other faiths, colours, or ancestry. That you consider this view to be objectionable, or imagine that by holding it I am a disgrace, I don’t really care.
Thinking about “the Lebanese” — of whom there are less than 200,000 claiming ancestry in Australia — may keep you up at night, but it doesn’t cause me a great deal of discomfit. (Although at the same time, I must confess feeling a little sorry for Bachar Houli having to wear the red and black.)
Following and as a consequence (and factor) in invasion and occupation, Australia has a very long history of immigration. Your tales of exploitation (’bludging’) and reproduction (’fucking popping out disgusting kids’) are just that, and demonstrate nothing more than racist ignorance.
You have much to learn.
yer sick, i hate you ya stupid motherfucker
yer so fuckin’ blind ya have no fuckin’ mind
yer nazi white-trash yer words come out like shit
yer so fuckin’ sick yer such a fuckin’ prick
ya have that special something that “sprite in you appeal”
ya think that we all love you but this is how you make us feel
yer sweaty, fuckin ignorant a product of conditioning
eugenics, social darwinism, an excuse for yer positioning
yer crass & evil ways are all that got you there today
i hope you get shot, and this is what we say
yer sick, i hate you ya stupid motherfucker
yer so fuckin’ blind ya have no fuckin’ mind
yer nazi white-trash yer words come out like shit
yer so fuckin’ sick yer such a fuckin’ prick
one of us will be betrayed
and time kills us all
so we say… we hope you die sooner!
-Courtesy of Leftover Crack
Emily you are a teenager correct? When did you ever meet fatty Stu then, were you in a pram at the time?
Now I know that you are terribly proud of this new and exciting word utilise which you’ve learned but there is no need to employ the little blighter quite so much and there is a requirement to use it in the correct context.
Here’s a starter for you:
“That’s never going to cross my mind in order for utilisation even once.”
That doesn’t work, try again.
Also “A strong perception” of what? A perception of what Emily? It’s not a guessing game, the sentence is supposed to convey something to us and that one just leaves people hanging.
If you could work at that then your wee rant against the laughable postings of your brethren would carry slightly better.
Of course the actual content of your post will still show you up as someone unable to think your way out of a paper bag but it will at least make some sort of sense and you could probably talk some of the lesser papers into publishing something in the letters page.
wow, you guys show more hatred for one another than ian or the bone heads ever did to blacks, lol. im also a teen, like the 3rd teen girl or so to comment and judging by the comments i dont wanna argue, or want any one to fucking reply, i just want to say that no matter how hard you try, or what you do, people will allways love ian, and others will always hate him. racial intolerence isnt just white people. blacks, spicks and all the rest have their say about white people too. “cracker”, “honky” and “white trash” are just afew examples of normal language for black people, but it is accepted. its not classed as racist. it is just swept under the rug. why? there is also a maori political party [as i hail from NewZealand also] but there is no aryan one, or white one. why is that?? just a bit unfair, i think. and the knowledge of white people is apalling?? just the other day a kid from a “crip gang” called me a NAZI JEW!! what the fuck does that mean. i tried to explain the whole hitler, jew, nazi worldwar2 situation to them, but they wouldnt listen. the very next day, in my art class, an obease “gangsterr” maori guy comes in, un prepared, and calls our [very non racist] white teacher racist for telling him to get up and get himself a pencil. racist is just what they use to fall back on. thats a bit worse than making afew spelling errors, right. i am highly dissapointed. and so what, there is a kkk and skin/”bone” heads, our country is being overun with little maori kids trying to be “gangsterr” or “gee-skee’s” like the americans, so if you call the white gangs a problem, then the “gangsterr” gangs must be an epidemic. you guys should just look at the real problem, it is just the white people getting sick of the “gangsterr” people really. well, maybe not all, but most of the ones that i associate with do. there is a problem with the world and there will always be different opinions, and all people should be able to voice/type/sing/whatever them if that is what they desire.
Correct racism and intolerance is not confined to one ‘race’ or social group… apart from morons, you can pretty much lump them all into the moron camp no matter their background.
However those are normal terms among Black people? Not the ones I know and I’d be willing to bet I know a few more than you so you’re already starting to group people by the indicators they can’t alter instead of those which they can which is a worry and then using derogatory terms for another group, is that really the way to start off an argument against another group claiming racist behaviour?
To go into why there are minority parties you would have to explain the whole relationship between power and minorities which is something you should be able to figure out all on your own some if you put just a small amount of thought into it.
You’ve asked yourself the question so now think and answer it yourself. “Why is there not a large recognised White Power party?” Now take a look at who is in power and who has been running the place for a few generations. “My God” you say, illumination flooding your mind. “They’re all White!”
Just as in the U.S. U.K. and almost every other place where this non question comes up the party in power, the parties which have been in power are overwhelmingly White. This is normally why there is no ‘Aryan’ party. You don’t need one if you are already running the place.
A lot less people would love Ian if they had met him. A lot less people would have loved the little Hitler loving slob if they had actually listened to him and if I can keep one impressionable kid from idolising a work shy, fat, stupid, coward like him then that’s good enough to keep me answering these.
By the way posting on a public forum and then asking people not to answer does not really make sense on any level.
god it is true you left wing nonces do write some crap,still at last there are groups that are hunting you down,just think when youre watching your tv,good to no that a petrol bomb comes through your window,
just leave you reds with a little something to chew over as beside trying to think you can get one over us,when i am not out and about liveing the 14 words,i like nothing better than getting the lurchers out for a spot of nightime lamping,i think it the last 4 weeks i have took over 30 foxes,just for fun,so all those that suppoted the hunt ban,did not matter one bit,as i take out more foxes than any of the local hunts ever did,and just in case you think the fox may go to ground,out come the fells,and we have a little dig,do like digging when theres cubs down there,all good fun,and when a few of us get board we drive out and a dig and go and get some black and whites…all goood fuuun
1488123456789 to all NS
south cost red bashing squad
Aka countrywide. After stopping for a good laugh. 1/ I’ve been at this for over 2 decades and even the ones who can write have yet to find me despite my address being all over the place 2/ I live on the 7th floor, I’ve met them and they couldn’t get a paper plane that far. 3/ Look at the available evidence you delusional drug addled fool, who’s on the receiving end of the majority of the petrol bombs and who are constantly having to change address… I’ll give you a clue, they like marching colours and you can use their heads to knock nails in but little else.
Now is it not past your bed time? Ask the nurse to tuck you in dear.
aka countrywide,
You sound like a big meanie!
U dumb nigger luvin cock suckers fuck u all simply and WHITE POWER u race tradin fags!!! IAN STUART we will miss u bro!!! let me get a WHITE PRIDE WORLD WIDE IF U AGREE!!! and who started this site all i read is shit putting Ian down like WTF the man ran around talkin about his passion of a better world A WHITE ONE, and u niggers get ur kicks of talkin shit bout him!!! tell him that see wat happens oh ya he dead u bitches! Tell me that c wat happens!
SFVpeckerwood,
Well put. You should go on a speaking tour.
14! 88! OMG HUTT HUTT HUTT!
These white pride spam bots are tops.
SFVpeckerwood.
No idea where to start with this one to be honest, tell me do you happen to have a forehead tattoo? Something like ‘Race Warrior’ or another catchy phrase to ensure that you never have to do a day’s work outside a prison in your life?
Strange obsession with gay sex in all I see, very common among your mob including fatty Stu. Be like your hero, give in to the feelings and indulge in some sweaty man love with an Aryan brother you’ll feel so much better and before you know it you’ll be earning a living doing gay porn like fatty Stu’s other friend and fellow right wing nut job Nicky Crane.
IF BONES COULD READ BOOKS BY INTELLIGENT NAZIS WE MIGHT HAVE A PROBLEM BUT THEY ARE JUST A FASH ION [?] NOTHING ELSE IF SO THEY MIGHT HAVE A PROBLEM ABOUT TIBETAN OCCULTURE AND HINDHUS BEING OF ARYAN STOCK MEIN KAMPF AND HITLER AS KALKI [?] BUT THEY JUST LISTEN TO CDS AND GET PISSED OFF BECAUSE THEIR LIFE IS SHIT THEN BLAME IT ALL ON WHOEVER THEY’RE TOLD TO WHILE VERY RICH PEOPLE MAKE MONEY FROM DIVIDE AND CONQUER, THE OLDEST TRICK IN THE BOOK.
Why was the post about Wigan Mike “not wanting to get out of the Police van” deleted? Is the nazi WM the same one as the AFA one (changed sides)?
Huh?
Typical slander wrote [sic] by a young wanna-be antifa. Don’t listen to any of this shit, it[']s historically wrong written with a bias against white survival, sickens me. @ndy you are truly the racist here, it is evident that you do not want the white race to survive at all, you preach diversity just like the gentile you are.
Quite.
Dear Mr Bastard, Slackbastard, Andy, or whatever…
You really are a funny fellow! Seriously, you are!
Your responses are witty - I have a laugh out loud!
Some people should learn how to spell…
Unfortunately, I am in complete disagreement with your political line - I think ‘multiculturalism’ is stupid and destructive and I find it strange that you would brand someone that merely disagrees with you and yours as some sort of a%$hole who deserves to be beaten up by your idiotic ‘anti-fascist-thug-idiot mates.’ People of varied ‘groups’ don’t get along, don’t want to get along and never will get along.
Saying that, I’m not lying awake in bed all night thinking ‘bloody slackbastard and his brick-throwing mates…arrggg’, but why the hell are you and your mates bent out of shape about people whose opinions are different from yours?
Anyway, it’s a Sunday afternoon and it’s time for an Aussie BBQ - a real anti-anarchist BBQ. Slabs of steak and a tiny little bit of onion. And the ultimate BBQ bands, Butthole Surfers and Killdozer on loud volume!
Anders.
Anders Lagerstrom,
OK.
You think ‘multiculturalism’ is stoopid and destructive. I don’t, but then I don’t know what you mean by the term, and you present no evidence in support of your argument.
Your assertion that I brand anyone who disagrees with me as being some sort of a%$hole who deserves to be beaten up by my idiotic ‘anti-fascist-thug-idiot mates’ is plainly false. I disagree with other people all the time, about all sortsa things, for all sortsa reasons. I also understand that people don’t always get along with one another, that this is for all sortsa reasons, and that these tensions express themselves in all sortsa ways, in all sortsa contexts.
Enjoy your organic tofu steak, onions and vegan beer, and feel free to respond seriously if you wish.
Cheers,
@ndy.
Care to give us some reasons to why you think multiculturalism isn’t stupid and destructive[?]
No.
Define multiculturalism.
Explain why you believe it to be both stupid and destructive.
The reason why it’s destructive, is it allows the Asians to reap employment from our locals. BTW. Multiculturalism extends the rights towards minorities to bash white Aussies. When my mates were bashed by Lebs, where were you ‘anti-fascists’ then…ayyy?
Right.
You’ve failed to define multiculturalism.
Apparently, though, it’s some thing which:
1. “allows the Asians to reap employment from our locals” and;
2. “extends the rights towards minorities to bash white Aussies”.
Neither of these claims makes much sense.
Assault is a crime, whoever commits it, and ‘multiculturalism’ — whatever it is — has obviously not resulted in any changes to Australian law so as to allow the indiscriminate use of violence by ‘minorities’ against ‘white Aussies’.
Regarding employment, if by ‘reaping’ you mean that some Asian-Australians have jobs — yes, this is correct. If you believe this to be in some way remarkable, I guess you could always try contacting the Newsdesk at the Herald Sun with a tip-off…ayyy?
I understand, it[']s sad to see you as the mega anti-fash cake but lick your lips at watching old whitey getting his head kicked. Certainly not an anti-racist in my books. Ayyy.
Which books would those be Anders? Mein Kampf? Pat The Bunny? And what did the Newsdesk say when you told them that some people of Asian descent have jobs? Were they as stunned at the news as you and I were? I didn’t notice anything on the front page but then again, we all know Who Controls The Media amirite?
Andy, I hear that there are Scots who have jobs in Australia. Speaking as an Englishman conveniently ignoring the polyglotinous genetic heritage, this simply will not do! Don’t even get me started on those Continental types.
I Am A Mega Anti-Fash Cake And I Lick My Lips!
Read The Protocols Of The Elders Of Glasgow!
Teh Asians Are Coming!
Teh Asians Are Coming!
Watch Out For That Tree Ian!
You’re not a dj, dj, certainly not in my book.
Ayyy?
Who the fuck do you think you are? Andy Rick Robertson? I came on this website to have a respectful argument, but for some odd reason end up copping insults.
Why even bother, I won’t waste my time on this site, when there are better sites out there:
theforbiddentruth.net
Thanks for playing Anders.
Your prize is in the mail.
As for wasting time, I too sometimes wonder why fascist trolls such as yourself bother mashing your keyboard in this fashion. I’ve come to the conclusion that you/they are starved of attention.
That, and a little nutty.
Ayyy?
Hello,
This is the real Anders that obviously left this open on the net when he fell asleep after too much beer and Killdozer (the last post I did here was on the 23rd).
Mr S.Bastard:
“You think ‘multiculturalism’ is stoopid and destructive. I don’t, but then I don’t know what you mean by the term, and you present no evidence in support of your argument.”
Anders:
Well Andy, or Mr Bastard, if you will; to put it simply, I think it’s not a great idea to congregate (pardon the religious term) different groups of people in big cities that hate each other. I’m sure you’re familiar with the term ‘multiculturalism’, it’s a popular left-wing term used by every mainstream politician in the country.
Mr S.Bastard:
“Your assertion that I brand anyone who disagrees with me as being some sort of a%$hole who deserves to be beaten up by my idiotic ‘anti-fascist-thug-idiot mates’ is plainly false.”
Anders:
Well, the ‘anti-fascist hero’ that recalled his past glories that you interviewed sounds like the sort of person that would find out where you lived, sneak around to your place when you’re not there and kill your dog or cat. Prob’ly set your house on fire hoping your elderly Granny lived there. Seriously, he does sound like that sort.
Mr S.Bastard:
“I disagree with other people all the time, about all sortsa things, for all sortsa reasons. I also understand that people don’t always get along with one another, that this is for all sortsa reasons, and that these tensions express themselves in all sortsa ways, in all sortsa contexts.”
Anders:
Yes, that’s right. Always will be.
People should not be forced (by politicians) to get along and hold hands under a yummy pink rainbow just because it makes politicians feel like they are doing something nice.
Mr S.Bastard:
“Enjoy your organic tofu steak, onions and vegan beer, and feel free to respond seriously if you wish.”
Anders:
Right…asked for that one.
Have a pleasant Friday evening with many a beverage!
Hello,
This is the real @ndy that obviously left his fly open on the net when he fell asleep after too much beer and pills and Killdozer and you call this cup of shit coffee?
Mr A. Lagerstrom:
Well Andy, or Mr Bastard, if you will; to put it simply, I think it’s not a great idea to congregate (pardon the religious term) different groups of people in big cities that hate each other. I’m sure you’re familiar with the term ‘multiculturalism’, it’s a popular left-wing term used by every mainstream politician in the country.
Your religiosity is only excused if and when you kneel before Irwin Allen. I agree with you about the presence of Carlton fans in Melbourne. They are dangerous. But I’m sure you’re familiar with the term ‘reality’, it’s a popular left-wing term used by every mainstream politician in the country.
Mr A. Lagerstrom:
Well, the ‘anti-fascist hero’ that recalled his past glories that you interviewed sounds like the sort of person that would find out where you lived, sneak around to your place when you’re not there and kill your dog or cat. Prob’ly set your house on fire hoping your elderly Granny lived there. Seriously, he does sound like that sort.
The ‘anti-fascist’ hero in question that I didn’t interview (cf. ‘reality’) is Dave Hann (Who Helps People). Grandma Smith Said A Curious Thing about Dave: He lives in the UK; he only smacked Nazis.
Mr A. Lagerstrom:
Yes, that’s right. Always will be.
People should not be forced (by politicians) to get along and hold hands under a yummy pink rainbow just because it makes politicians feel like they are doing something nice.
Funnily enough, some people believe that opposing neo-Nazism does not require faith in the existence of pink rainbows, unicorns, or happy politicians. Also, the song ‘Final Market’ tells the story of a youth, exploited by his employer (Weil, Simone. Oppression and Liberty. Amherst: University of Massachusetts, 1973) a ruthless newspaper distributor and pub manager. Finally, the Peoples’ Revolution arrives (Lunn, Arnold Henry Moore. The Science of World Revolution. London: Sheed and Ward, 1938), and the lad justifiably kills his (Nazi sympathiser) boss.
Hello again Mr Bastard,
“Your religiosity is only excused if and when you kneel before Irwin Allen.”
Yes, the master of realllism!
I know nothing of Carlton fans or silly games involving adult men that chase after a leather misshaped ball, whilst not wearing much…However, I’m familiar with reality.
“The ‘anti-fascist’hero in question that I didn’t interview (cf. ‘reality’)…”
Yeah all right you nitpicker you.
“…is Dave Hann (Who Helps People). Grandma Smith Said A Curious Thing about Dave: He lives in the UK; he only smacked Nazis.”
He still sounds like a violent nut-job that should not be allowed to live anywhere near the vicinity of a school, kindergarten, or nursing home. If an old lady fell over whilst walking down the road, our hero Dave would probably want to know whether she was a ‘fascist’ before helping her up.
“Funnily enough, some people believe that opposing neo-Nazism does not require faith in the existence of pink rainbows, unicorns, or happy politicians.”
I didn’t mention unicorns ya dill! I merely called ‘multiculturalism’ into question…which has nothing to do with neo-nazism.
“The boneheads in the UK have largely been eradicated, due to the efforts of Anti-Fascist Action in the 90’s.”
There ya go. None of ‘em left, at least hardly enough to half fill a pub and see a bunch of 50 year old veterans with tattoos that look awful these days at a glorification event. Tell Dave to drop the apostrophe on 90s eh? My turn to nitpick.
“Well none of us were full-time professional anti-racists…”
What or whom is a “full-time professional anti-racist?”
Is that Anna Bligh, K Rudd or Julia Gillard? Seriously, can you get a job as a “full-time professional anti-racist?”
Killdozer on their ‘Uncompromising…’ album were having a laugh. Michael Gerald stated that whilst he was in ‘college’ he was exposed to quite a lot of communist / left-wing rhetoric (as I was in my younger days at university) that it basically began to parody itself. The title of ‘Uncompromising…’ is two communist Chinese ‘art works’ strung together.
Anders, the best of all short-order fry cooks is signing off for the afternoon.
Have a good one son and give your trusty dog ‘Knuckles’ a pat for me.
Anders Lagerstrom,
If you are familiar with reality, then you will also be familiar with the fact that it’s not only possible, but actual — a realised possibility — for different groups of people, whether in big cities or small, to not only not simply ‘hate’ each other, but to display a wide range of emotions and behaviours; further, for such emotions, displays, interactions and understandings to be complex, multiple, sometimes contradictory, and to change over time. That you believe it’s not a great idea for different kinds of people to occupy the same space is your problem, and has very little, if anything, to do with Ian Stuart Donaldson, Skrewdriver, Blood & Honour, the Batttle of Waterloo, or anti-fascist activism, whether in Australia, the UK, or anywhere else. Further, the icky feeling you get when you encounter others who you believe to be radically and fundamentally different to yourself has very little, if anything, to do with the doctrine of ‘multiculturalism’ or its history in Australia — whether in terms of government policy or as some kinda social phenomenon.
The same applies in the case of what you think Dave Hann is like.
Finally:
You think ‘multiculturalism’ is stoopid and destructive. I don’t, but then I don’t know what you mean by the term, and you present no evidence in support of your argument.
‘Multiculturalism’ does have little to do with neo-Nazism (a contemporary manifestation of which is Blood & Honour), outside of the fact that the fascist bozos who belong to B&H and attend its rare performances in Melbourne also regard ‘multiculturalism’ as being stoopid and destructive. (Mind you, they also think The Jew controls The World, so…)
AFA did manage to suppress the activities of boneheads in the ’90s in the UK. But there are still boneheads prancing about: see : Blood & Honour 2008 ISD gig : Redhill, Somerset. Mind you, the gig referred to in this post was held in Somerset, not London, and the bones came from all over Europe, even Australia. The Australian delegate, Nicole “Andy from slackbastard is just a loudmouth leftie keyboard warrior and nothing to worry about” Hanley, sadly lost her job at arms manufacturer Thales following her exposure as a neo-Nazi activist, but you can still meet and greet her at the Sydney Forum in a few weeks time if you feel that way inclined.
As for B&H…
But really, I think you’re skirting around the issue, which isn’t to do with ‘multiculturalism’ or AFA or Dave Hann so much as your upset with the end of Gary’s tenure at The Birmingham Hotel, and the impact this and attendant issues has had on various local odds and sods. And yeah, many boneheads are pushing 50 (cf. Chumley and Simon of T.H.U.G. or Murray of Q.A.T.D.) but not all — Fiona ‘Deadset’ must be only 30 or so yeah?
What or whom is a “full-time professional anti-racist?” Is that Anna Bligh, K Rudd or Julia Gillard? Seriously, can you get a job as a “full-time professional anti-racist?”
Yes, there are ‘full time professional anti-racists’, but they’re not MPs like Anna or KRudd or Julia. See : Liberal Foundations And Anti-Racism Activism, Michael Barker, Swans, August 24, 2009.
And no, I had no idea Killdozer were not committed Communists.
Time for some punk.
i estimated your worth today
and i’m not gonna listen to what you say
and i’m never gonna go back to work
you’re not my boss, you’re just a fucking jerk
you’re pathetic, you’re disgusting
you’re pathetic, you make me sick
i estimated your worth today, you’re shit
you can go out of business for all i care
your way of life isn’t going anywhere
i’m not stupid and i won’t be led
by pricks like you who’d be better off dead
you’re pathetic, you’re disgusting
you’re pathetic, you make me sick
i estimated your worth today, you’re shit
On ‘Violent London’:
Fords vs. Holdens, I call for separate roads now!
Mr Bastard:
“…so much as your upset with the end of Gary’s tenure at The Birmingham Hotel…”
Anders:
I really couldn’t give a rat’s. Don’t even know where it is. And Gary (whoever he is) can go and get a job sweeping roads for all I care. Gary can recommend hiring the local scout hall.
Mr Bastard:
“And yeah, many boneheads are pushing 50 (cf. Chumley and Simon of T.H.U.G. or Murray of Q.A.T.D.) but not all — Fiona ‘Deadset’ must be only 30 or so yeah?”
Anders:
I suppose so. None of the above mentioned have a hope in changing the world to suit themselves or their agenda. They are probably better off throwing a ten cent coin against an office building and seeing whether they can knock it down. A bit like you and your lot I suppose.
I know someone in Perth who knows quite a lot about the punk etc music scene over there and poor old Murray sounds like a tired old bloke. Q.A.T.D (who I have heard and not only do I think they are pretty average, they don’t seem to say much on the ’seig-heilin’ side of politics either. Rush are a far more interesting band…) apparently do the odd ’secret’ afternoon gig.
Anyway, I’m signing off from here and if any bugger uses my name as previously done to post here, it’s not me.
Miss you already!
“i estimated your worth today
and i’m not gonna listen to what you say
and i’m never gonna go back to work
you’re not my boss, you’re just a fucking jerk
you’re pathetic, you’re disgusting
you’re pathetic, you make me sick.”
Great! Top-notch stuff there. Great lyrics too. Is this band made up of pissed-off twelve-year olds that don’t want to do there homework? These people cannot be adults.
Hi Andy,
Great blog, i just found it, funny as feck. It’s good to see somebody taking the pish out of these halfwits. Keep up the good work. I haven’t laughed so much in ages at some of the boneheads’ responses. It’s something that i always found odd, how can someone from the master race be so fecking dim, it’s an oxymoron. By the way the 1888 thing after my name is when my team Celtic FC were founded, not some daft Nazi play on numbers. Speaking of football (sorry Andy) soccer I’ve a wee question for Garioch. Is it the same Garioch from the ST Pauli web site in the UK? If it is your input and writings have been 1st class on this blog and the St Pauli site. Keep up the good work and for all you boneheads, FOLLOW YOUR LEADER.
Cheers daithi1888.
Love and solidarity,
@ndy1892.
ian stuart wormfood
burn in hell fascist pig
It shows the stunning lack of historical education or knowledge of this country when Neo-Nazis call people “traitors” for attacking Nazis.
The Nazis were our enemy for six bloody, death soaked years. 3/4 of a million British died fighting Nazis, yet when they are fought now they are “traitors”?
The traitors are the ones who shame the memory of the British dead who fought against Fascism and tried to stop it happening here, not the Hitler waving defects.
It’s the boneheads who are traitors, and they should be treated like traitors. Shot against the wall at Wormwood Scrubs and Wandsworth prisons.
I still have the AFA “unscrew skrewdriver” flyer for Waterloo on my pin board, I can see it now, with its photo of Stuart trying to look hard while surrounded by more security within touching distance of him as he ‘heils’ on stage than there is band members, what bravery.
CRASS were anti violence pacifists, and yet they never had such ‘defence’ when playing live, despite knowing they were a permanent target.
HA! Skrewdriver were more cowardly than CRASS, ha ha ha.
P.S. For a funny/satirical history of Ian Stuart and Skrewdriver, from his being a long haired Stones cover band member, to loyal Odin-son piss take go to
zerohourpunkrockblog.blogspot.co.uk
P.P.S. Jewdriver are great, top 100% piss-takers.
I ain’t even gay but liked their “I suck Jew cock” t-shirt, I thought it was inspired.
Nazis-once and always enemies to all the people in the islands and the countries of the British isles.
“I’ve a wee question for Garioch. Is it the same Garioch from the ST Pauli web site in the UK?”
I’m on a couple of Celtic sites but don’t think that I’ve posted on any StPauli sites. There are a couple of others about using the same name that I’ve seen though; it’s a geographical area so it’s been used a few times.
Nice point about Crass by the way Old Fart, true enough and the same for a good few of the other bands who were regularly attacked by the boneheads.
What a bunch of lies! hahahaha fuck off back to Russia, oh you can’t they rejected Communism as a failed ideology too
The part about Waterloo was an interesting read but very sensationalised and biased. Which of course is to be expected as it is written from an AFA point of view. If you believe books such as No Retreat, AFA/Red Action never lost a fight. Which is of course unrealistic rubbish. I know I was there on many occasions and yes it was on the right wing side. Not a skin though, I was casual.
Can’t say the skinhead look ever appealed. I always found it odd that people who claimed be anti-gay dressed in a homoerotic manner and liked to get their shirts off, get sweaty and wrestle with each other. Very odd.
Anyway back to my point. At Waterloo and other times it wasn’t as one sided as this describes. I am not saying we won them all, that would be a major porky, but there were certainly as many reds got badly done over as right wing over the years.
The claim that Blood and Honour was finished off is laughable, they are still going, still getting decent crowds though nothing like back then. Anyway it is all kind of pointless — nothing will ever come of it. It is very much a toothless tiger now both on the streets and politically. Most of the right in the UK now are stuck in the past, back in the ’80s and early ’90s. They have failed to modernise their views and the way they work which can only lead to failure. They have also failed to broaden their support base. There is also in my opinion a fair number of people that go to these events that if Hitler had won would be boarding a train to destinations east not long after he saw them.
Don’t get me wrong I am still what would be termed right wing by many people but my views have definitely changed a lot since then. The whole thing about fetishing Germanic Nazi symbols by groups in the UK I don’t get anymore. At one time yeah I was as guilty as everyone else but I was young then. Why groups that claim to be British nationalistic want to copy the symbols of a political organisation from a foreign country escapes me now. Swazis, sieg heil, deathsheads — what does that have do with the UK? It’s not as if the UK does not have enough nationalist and even Fascist (though not NS) symbols and history of its own.
White supremacy is an outdated concept from the colonial era, it’s fairly obvious that no one race has a edge in intelligence and creativity. What differences do exist i guess are probably more down to social and educational factors.
Immigration I think is bad but inevitable I guess.Talk of repatriation and totally ending it are unrealistic dreams. Controlling it is the only way forward I guess. Open door policies are madness, that would lead to anarchy, being an anarchist guess that would suit you. Immigration on large scales mainly benefits large corporations while disadvantaging the lower working or in UK just now not working classes. Immigration is also harmful, when groups within the immigrant community seek political and media power to try to change their adopted country to suit their agendas ie the more fundamentalist side of Islam. The adoption of sharia law for example, even just within the Muslim community, is harmful to every one in my opinion.
The right is full lot sad dreamers these days but then I think the left wing side is as well.
Oh and I never liked Skrewdriver or for that matter Skullhead or Brutal Attack. Like most casuals I ended up raving in the ’90s.
The part about Waterloo was an interesting read but very sensationalised and biased. Which of course is to be expected as it is written from an AFA point of view. If you believe books such as No Retreat, AFA/Red Action never lost a fight. Which is of course unrealistic rubbish. I know I was there on many occasions and yes it was on the right wing side. Not a skin though, I was casual.
Sensational and biased? Maybe. But ‘The Battle of Waterloo’ was rather sensational, on a number of levels. As for bias, clearly, the authors (that is, in this case, Dave Hann, not Steve Tilzey), take sides. As for never losing a fight — not true. The book also recounts defeats, both physical and political. What distinguishes it from other accounts of the period, I think, is its unapologetic nature: AFA was committed to confronting fascists both physically and politically, and the book — like AFA — makes no apologies for that, considering both as having been necessary to defeat the neo-Nazi/far right.
Can’t say the skinhead look ever appealed. I always found it odd that people who claimed be anti-gay dressed in a homoerotic manner and liked to get their shirts off, get sweaty and wrestle with each other. Very odd.
Sure — the skinhead look has limited appeal. As for teh gheys — there have been a number of (homo-)sexual ’scandals’ within bonehead communities. Violent homophobia is often the product of repressed desire: it’s typically only when such attitudes are present that young men getting their shirts off, getting sweaty and wrestling with one another, is considered acceptable. In other contexts, such a degree of physical intimacy is considered grounds for a beating.
Anyway back to my point. At Waterloo and other times it wasn’t as one sided as this describes. I am not saying we won them all, that would be a major porky, but there were certainly as many reds got badly done over as right wing over the years.
Possibly. It’s very difficult to say. I’m sure that a number of ‘reds’ were beaten at Waterloo. But I think a distinction can be made between AFA and ‘reds’ as a whole. That is, AFA seemed to be reasonably effective in conducting violent assaults upon its opponents while minimising injuries to its own. I think this had a good deal to do with having good intelligence and good tactics. Further, the book examines the experiences of two men — it does not provide a full account of the activities of AFA (or the ’squaddist’ element in ANL before it), but then it doesn’t claim to. It has flaws and limitations. Some of these are due to the authors’ own biases; some are due to the nature of the activity described, and the need to protect the guilty. Other, short accounts of the activities of AFA and anti-fascist activity during this period generally are available in a small number of other accounts:
1. Bash the Fash: Anti-fascist recollections, 1984-1993, K. Bullstreet, Kate Sharpley Library, 2001.
2. 1985-2001: Anti-Fascist Action (AFA) (”A short history of Anti-Fascist Action (AFA), which fought a secret war against the far right in Britain and drove them off the streets”).
3. ‘Bash the Fash’, Organise!, No.70, Summer 2008.
The claim that Blood and Honour was finished off is laughable, they are still going, still getting decent crowds though nothing like back then. Anyway it is all kind of pointless — nothing will ever come of it. It is very much a toothless tiger now both on the streets and politically. Most of the right in the UK now are stuck in the past, back in the ’80s and early ’90s. They have failed to modernise their views and the way they work which can only lead to failure. They have also failed to broaden their support base. There is also in my opinion a fair number of people that go to these events that if Hitler had won would be boarding a train to destinations east not long after he saw them.
I think the claim is that B&H were finished off as a force in London — B&H became, and remains, a global phenomenon. The dreams of re-creating the Third Reich are just that: dreams. But that doesn’t mean that B&H and allied networks cannot continue to (and do in fact) play a role in the re-development of a broader fascist movement, or that its members and supporters do not often play the role of willing foot-soldiers (frequently saps) in street wars with anarchists and the left. They may play a less significant role in this regard in the UK, but elsewhere in the world — especially Eastern Europe — they are more significant and effective.
As for the right in the UK generally: I disagree. For one thing, I think B&H do not and never represented the ‘right’ as such. Rather, they were, and remain, a neo-Nazi grouping, part of a broader fascist milieu. Many on the political right denounce neo-Nazism, as well as fascism. As for modernisation — what about the BNP? It has evolved from being a straightforwardly neo-Nazi grouping to one that is merely fascist — and even here its politics is deliberately disguised to be a form of (far) right-wing populism.
As for Hitler: he was a ruthless politician, happy — even eager — to violently crush his opposition, including within the ranks of his own Party.
Moar l8r…
Excuse me, what is with the great opposition against White Nationalism by White Anarchists? Nationalism has done more to protect the working rights and well-being of White people th[a]n all other movements combined. They put [the] needs of White people foremost in such things as: wealth fare, medical treatment, employment, etc. I do not know why the White Anarchist would oppose this?
What is so bad about the far-right re-emerging - when you must consider - Whites are increasingly becoming victims of Race-Hate; deprivations of civil rights that we should be entitled too [sic].
You make some good points there. I will have a read of those other articles. Oh i agree AFA were very good at organising, much better then than they are now. In a violent street confrontation context i mean. Sure in Europe, especially Eastern Europe they are still effective in that way. Though most times the main part of the fighting usually seems to end up against the ob rather than actual so called FASH. In the UK they are not very effective in that way anymore. Of course it can be argued that the time for street fighting is over for various reasons. CCTV, improved police tactics, intelligence gathering and attitudes of people both sides and general public have changed a lot since then.
Course you are correct about blood and honour being a small part of the right in general. But as the article was about waterloo i thought it was relevant to discuss them. To say waterloo finished off BH in london area is wrong, sure it hurt them and made them more careful. But meetings and gigs still carried on and still do. C18 had many gigs in london after that and to this day still own their own venue in the east end. BH carried on in the london area, initially as said under C18 then independently. Fair enough most gigs were not in central london but outside the centre. In fact they had one in london a few weeks ago which went off unopposed.
Yes it could be said that the BNP has modernised the way it works but i wonder at a senior level exactly how much its beliefs have changed. They still stick to things like repatriation of immigrants but just package it differently. I was really referring to the groups that could be called traditional right wing, not populist as BNP has become. The NF, the BPP, the British Movement (yes still limping along but pointless now) etc etc they have never changed, never will and as such are doomed to stay on the fringes forever with no real chance of doing anything political. I also wonder how much of the change in the BNP is down to Nick’s rampant ego and motivated by money rather than politics.
Of course the right has always had a secret homosexual element: Nicky Crane (though that was more open than people admit), Martin Webster, Michael Kuhnen and even going back to Ernst Rohm. I just don’t understand the whole anti homosexual obsession of the right. Surely there is enough to be getting on with immigration and opposition to other political ideologies etc than who someone prefers to cuddle up with at night. Fair enough when i was young i would prob have been horrified by the whole gay thing but age and thought change your views i guess.
I assume the name Coupe comes from the room in his head for all of two brain cells?
I’m not even touching the Flea comment with people going back to somewhere they haven’t come from? Poor confused wee boy.
Skrewdriver more like Skrewedupdriving